[WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

Hello folks, Anyone else having issues with the suckerfish (and son of suckerfish) menu in IE6 SP2? I've been trawling through the archives and can't see a post on this issue. I notice that IE6 with service pack 2 installed initially blocks the JavaScript that makes the li hover sections drop

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

the page: http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html. Can I raise a quick issue -- I noticed when I went to that page and right-clicked on it... a JavaScript alert came up to say that the page was copyright, and, as far as I could tell, stopped me from doing view source via the

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

Thierry Koblentz wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1.html Basically it is this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ This technique uses negative margins too, but does not require structural hacks for clearing, and I believe it has better browsers

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

I notice that IE6 with service pack 2 installed initially blocks the JavaScript that makes the li hover sections drop It's only when browsing local files. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Really strange results

John People use that method to try and stop people copying source code. Unfortunately there really is no reliable way of doing so because: 1. the page is usually cached by the browser and you can get the source code from there 2. browsers can be set to disable javascript to get around these

[WSG] Vision.To CMS Enterprise (XHTML/CSS)

Hi I have developed a new version of CMS Portal Solutions XHTML / CSS compliant to W3C Recommendations and other standards(Except: Admin Part). Your feedback is welcome. regards---Vision.To DesignFemi Hasaniwww.vision.to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +46

RE: [WSG] Styling Forms

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lachlan Hardy Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling Forms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems that styling the actual form elements is the

[WSG] Centering

Title: Message Hi hope this isn't too simple a question but what am I missing in trying to get the menu_table to center on this page...http://www.kinggeorgev.ca/test_1.php Thanks, Paul Paul Gauci Director, Internet Development m5i.com t: 709.753.6227 f: 709.754.3990 m: 709.687.2617

Re: [WSG] Centering

Title: Message You should use list property ... se: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/ regards feha - Original Message - From: Paul To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 14:44 Subject: [WSG] Centering Hi hope this isn't too simple a

Re: [WSG] {Spam?} css type glich

Hi It would be better if you tested and developed with Firefox/Safari/Opera rather than to the non-compliant browsers like IE5 mac and NS6. Netscape 6 was a dud alpha release of Mozilla code and was pretty quickly put to sleep. I believe it was the equivalent of Mozilla 0.9.4 - the current

Re: [WSG] Centering

Paul wrote: Hi hope this isn't too simple a question but what am I missing in trying to get the menu_table to center on this page...http://www.kinggeorgev.ca/test_1.php Thanks, Paul Paul Gauci Director, Internet Development m5i.com t: 709.753.6227 f: 709.754.3990 m: 709.687.2617

CLOSED Re: [WSG] Vision.To CMS Enterprise (XHTML/CSS)

Hi Femi Sorry, this is not the list for product announcements. The WSG runs a dedicated CMS list - you can can find and subscribe to it after logging in at the WSG website. Cheers James On Apr 5, 2005 3:11 AM, Vision.To Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have developed a new version

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

I think that styling forms is very nice addon to any site. See http://www.pixy.cz/pixylophone/obrazky/styled-forms.gif -- styling the form elements can make them look worse outside the major browsers. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

I think that styling forms is very nice addon to any site. And one thing more - you can't rely on it, you won't now how it is rendered on various platforms, nevertheless it might look weird, it might also be unusable etc. ... If you style 'em, you have to be careful. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB ::

RE: [WSG] Styling Forms

I'm currently suggesting all input elements have a class to reflect the type. So they can be controlled via CSS a little easier. e.g. input type=radio class=radio input type=checkbox class=checkbox input type=submit class=submit input type=text class=radio etc. Are there any associated

Re: [WSG] {Spam?} css type glich

On 5 Apr 2005, at 10:05 pm, James Ellis wrote: Hi It would be better if you tested and developed with Firefox/Safari/Opera rather than to the non-compliant browsers like IE5 mac and NS6. Netscape 6 was a dud alpha release of Mozilla code and was pretty quickly put to sleep. I believe it was the

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

I thought I solved the problem before going to bed yesterday, by changing the id to class. This morning I checked, my 'persistent page indicator' or whatever you call it, doesn't work anymore. I have spent last 3 hours trying to find a way out to no avail. All tutorials and references regardless

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

Yes, I've encountered that as well. I think It's interesting that it blocks javascript on your own computer, but will gleefully accept it (and activeX objects and whatnot) from the internet (because we all know who how safe the internet is). I guess it's just one of those 'undocumented

OT: Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

(and activeX objects and whatnot) from the internet (because we all know who how safe the internet is). I guess it's just one of those 'undocumented features'. I think it's intended as a security fix for all those *script mail viruses (iloveyou etc.) The sad point is that the only solution

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:03:03 +0100, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've encountered that as well. I think It's interesting that it blocks javascript on your own computer, but will gleefully accept it (and activeX objects and whatnot) from the internet (because we all know who

Re[2]: [WSG] ID conflicts

Tee, Am Dienstag, 5. April 2005 um 15:47:49 haben Sie geschrieben: t This is the page I'd working on now. The body and the menu buttons are in id t so it works but doesn't pass the validation of course. t http://www.lotusseeds.com/big5.htm t .div id=siteOption t ul tli id=homea

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Yes, that's another variant that'll work just fine. I made one based on the same idea back in may/june 2004, but Gecko-browsers wasn't clearing too well then: http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_7_b.html Hi Georg, You're floating the right column and you have a few

RE: [WSG] Styling Forms

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony TimberlakeSent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:59 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Styling Forms I think that styling forms is very nice addon to any site. Who wants to look at a

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

tee wrote: This is the page I'd working on now. The body and the menu buttons are in id so it works but doesn't pass the validation of course. http://www.lotusseeds.com/big5.htm .div id=siteOption ul li id=homea href=traditional.html id=home title=home accesskey=1 /a/li /ul /div

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

Hi Michael and Martin. Thanks for the reply. A quick note first before I go playing with my code again. The problem is the still the same, but perhaps you missed the answers earlier. You can only use id=home once on any page--one time and one time only--and never twice on the same page.

[WSG] css expresions? todo : not todo

What do you guys think of useing css expressions to mimic standards-compliant behavior. (hidden, of course, from the good browsers) One useful example I found would be something like this: http://blogs.clearscreen.com/migs/archive/2004/12/23/676.aspx Would using them allot cause the browser to

[WSG] Styling the legend tag in a fieldset

Hi Guys, Gals and gender non-specifics, Ive been wondering about Legends Not the kind that makes a really good fantasy story, or Rock Star Legends, but the legends that go along with fieldsets. I have been finding that the amount of styling a legend will take is rather limited since

Re: [WSG] Styling the legend tag in a fieldset

On Apr 5, 2005 6:57 PM, Phil Baines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been finding that the amount of styling a legend will take is rather limited since the browser applies a certain level of style to it by itself. I was wondering if any of you guys might know a good resource regarding styling

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

tee wrote: Yes, I fully aware that ID can only apply one and one ONLY :) I have to say I didn¹t' think ahead when making the menu. Having the button set to ID was fine and passed the flying colors with validator. The issue arise once I decided to have the 'current page' indicator. I did try to

Re: [WSG] css expresions? todo : not todo

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:23:31 -0400, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys think of useing css expressions to mimic standards-compliant behavior. (hidden, of course, from the good browsers) If you mean *ie expressions,* they work out well for me. One useful example I found would

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

Hi, Then why are you still using the same id for both your li's and your a's in #siteOption ul? If you know this is a no no, then the first thing you should do is fix it. You don't *have* to use a class and in this case a class makes less sense (to me at least) than a unique id. Well!

Re: [WSG] css expresions? todo : not todo

David Laakso wrote: One useful example I found would be something like this: http://blogs.clearscreen.com/migs/archive/2004/12/23/676.aspx (could not locate remote server) Funny, it works well for me? Anyways, it's just a nice article on wo to make use of css selectors in IE.

Re: [WSG] ID conflicts

tee wrote: Yes Sir! And thanks million for the fix. Came up a quick copy and paste test page. It works beautifully. Will study your code thoroughly lately tonight to make sure I understand everything. http://www.lotusseeds.com/tryagain_michael.html Looks nice, Maybe you've already thought of

[WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

Hi, Been wanting to find a solution but it's sort of something not critical until I came up with this menu http://www.lotusseeds.com/tryagain_michael.html I have a one pixel in padding-bottom in the li Everything looks so perfect in FF and Safari, but in IE (PC Mac) , it's something like 3 or

Re: [WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

tee wrote: Hi, Been wanting to find a solution but it's sort of something not critical until I came up with this menu http://www.lotusseeds.com/tryagain_michael.html Any idea? In the markup, do not leave whitespace between the list items HTH, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] How exactly can I get pixel perfect in IE?

At 12:29 PM 4/5/2005, tee wrote: I have a one pixel in padding-bottom in the li Everything looks so perfect in FF and Safari, but in IE (PC Mac) , it's something like 3 or 4 pixel. It messes up my menu. At 12:42 PM 4/5/2005, Thierry Koblentz wrote: In the markup, do not leave whitespace between

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

Thierry Koblentz wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_7_b.html Hi Georg, You're floating the right column and you have a few structural hacks for clearing in there. Did you try without floating it? I had much better result that way. Then, the *only* browser that

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

Kornel Lesinski wrote: It's well documented, just search MSDN on IE SP2 changes. It's also said that adding: -- saved from url=(0014)about:internet -- at the beginning of the file disables this behaviour. I think you meant: !-- saved from url=(0014)about:internet -- ^ it was missing the

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: reached by different means. I don't have a personal preference, so I look into all solutions, and pick and choose from ideas and inspiration when/as needed. Guess that's how it should work across the web. The same here. There is a lot of good stuff out there, very

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

G'day folks Firstly, apologies to Chris for not noticing that he'd already referred Mario to Cameron's article Secondly, Drew's points: It may make styling easier but incorporating form controls in labels has a different meaning than associating a label and a form control. For one thing, it

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

Good evening mates, First, thanks to all for the excellent advice and direction! I was successful in creating a table less form, albeit simple, that renders perfectly in IE6 (hard to believe), and damn good in FF1 and Opera7.4. If interested, the page is located at the following URL: