RE: [WSG] mutli language websites

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Ishida
Hello Sam, Here are some thoughts I have on the topic... Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From:

[WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread john
Greetings, I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs. I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve my

Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread Neerav
Im not a WSG moderator, but I know they'll soon point you to joining cms@webstandardsgroup.org where your post is not off-topic (OT) -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for NetX, Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis

Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
Hi John, I have had the similar question but dared not ask in this list as I afraid it maybe off-topic, so I did a little search myself... And I came to a conclusion that it's not whether Mambo can be 'web standards', but how can we make it 'web standards'. I haven't come to conclusion yet but the

Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
And by the way, my respectful moderators, before you make up your mind that this thread is 'off-topic', I sincerely hope you give a benefit of doubts. CMS by itself may not have anything to do with web standards, but it's all in the hands of the users. A highly web standards conscious user maybe

RE: [WSG] mambo and web standards [MOVED TO CMS]

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely correct Lawrence. I (as a CMS developer) understand very well the need for standards compliant systems and a place to discuss the issues. That is why encourage anyone that is interested (and sadly, many developers are not) to join and use the WSG-CMS list. Just log in to

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Lee wrote: Hello Listpeople, Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ® ? Can't you use the standard registered entity reference: reg;? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ section C-12. Best, .Peter -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email ::

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
registered trademark reg; #174; Copied and pasted from http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:58 +0100, Lee wrote: Hello Listpeople, Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ? Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website:

[WSG] Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:58:08 +0100, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ? #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or numeric unicode entity reference. -- regards,

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Lee
Seems to validate - many thanks! Lee Joshua Street wrote: registered trademark reg; #174; Copied and pasted from http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_entitiesref.asp On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:58 +0100, Lee wrote: Hello Listpeople, Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ? Kind

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread john
I believe it's reg; ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Design http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter on 5/17/2005 11:58 AM Lee said the following: Hello Listpeople, Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ® ? ** The

Re: [WSG] Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Lee
Why might that be then? Lee Kornel Lesinski wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:58:08 +0100, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ? #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Kornel Lesinski wrote: #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or numeric unicode entity reference. Then why does the W3 use it in their example? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ section c12 -- Peter J. Farrell ::

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word: pink? -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog::

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com By default it sniffs my IP and uses geo mapping to fly me off to au.lastminute.com, which is a horrible table affair... don't know if you've got any control over that, but it's

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
p.s. whose idea was this: http://www.lastminute.com/site/main/boss_page_spreadsheet.html I laughed... :D On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: Any feedback appreciated. Kind Regards, Joshua Street Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax:

[WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread designer
Hi All, How much do I need to bother about quotation marks etc being represented as their 'proper' equivalent, eg ' as #39, and so on? I am working on an extract from a writer's work and as I've cut and pasted a lot of it, I've ended up with the horrific prospect of painstakingly going through

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Lee
I like the Iterate sexy partnerships bit! Lee Joshua Street wrote: p.s. whose idea was this: http://www.lastminute.com/site/main/boss_page_spreadsheet.html I laughed... :D On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:28 +0100, Tom Hamshere wrote: Any feedback appreciated. Kind Regards, Joshua Street

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 17 May 2005, at 8:37 pm, Peter J. Farrell wrote: Kornel Lesinski wrote: #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or numeric unicode entity reference. Then why does the W3 use it in their example?

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Bruce
I'll tell you a little secret. A popup on entering, and then every link in site had a popup ad, and another when closed. It isn't a site I would even consider looking at. Probably applies to most people, as we have all gotten tired of such methods. Bruce Prochnau - Original Message -

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:00:28 +0100, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much do I need to bother about quotation marks etc being represented as their 'proper' equivalent, eg ' as #39, and so on? Not much. I've ended up with the horrific prospect of painstakingly going through and changing

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Peter J. Farrell wrote: Old Computer programmers never die, they just decompile. -- Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Any feedback appreciated. One word:

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Joshua Street
http://photomatt.net/tools/texturize makes it really easy. He's also responsible for the WordPress blogging software (I know, off topic...) which has that function embedded. Quotation marks and apostrophes, if copied out of Word, can give you all kinds of messy encoding errors... best to either

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread James Ellis
Hi Quotes, ampersands, , and single quotes are reserved characters (entities). Basically you should only use quotes within tags like a href=blah.phpfoo/a. If you want to avoid problems with badly formed markup (XML for instance) then always use the entity version if the character e.g a

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:21:23 +0100, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=foo.phpquot;barquot;/a An XML parser would barf on a href=foo.phpbar/a as the quote char describes an attribute. This is badly formed markup. No, it is not. Quotes and apostrophes can be used in XML text. You can

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Hamshere wrote: I know it's not perfect (particularly that there are priority 2 accessibility issues), but could people please take a look at http://www.lastminute.com Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you a little secret. A popup on entering, and then every link in site had a popup ad, and another when closed. It isn't a site I would even consider looking at. Probably applies to most people, as we have all gotten tired of such methods. I

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Peter J. Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One word: pink? Sorry, I'm outta line...(although it definitely was striking)... Heh, no, no problem. It's our brand colour and has proven impossible to get rid of :) Run your code through tidy and the W3 validators (jigsaw and the

Re: [WSG] Site check

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Jacobus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, Great site, I did not know lastminute was going standards based. Congrats! Looking good, was also glad about the recent deal that was made. Yes, we've been working on it steadily for the last year or so. Still a way to go...

[WSG] Odd Firefox Issue...

2005-05-17 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Guys, Just wondering if you have ever seen this problem with firefox. There is no javascript effecting the page - its just as it loads. I think maybe the screen is auto scrolling down - but still... Is there anything I can do to avoid this?? http://img172.echo.cx/img172/715/issue0pk.jpg Sorry

Re: [WSG] Odd Firefox Issue...

2005-05-17 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Peter the list, Sorry didn't realise it wasn't this common. I unlocked the site to do a browercam anyway... So I may aswell post the link. [Browser cam page: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=163559 (note that browsercam has had a makeover - its nice :D] This URL will PROBABLY

Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Robin Berjon
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: It is valid for text/html (aka tagsoup). If you serve the document as application/xhtml+xml, then the browser should ignore named entities except the 5 ones (quot, amp, lt, gt and apos). That is not exactly correct. If in a document served as application/xhtml+xml

Re: [WSG] Odd Firefox Issue...

2005-05-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Chris Stratford wrote: Hey Guys, Just wondering if you have ever seen this problem with firefox. Hi Chris, I do not experience any problem with that page (FF 0.8/WinXP) Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for

[WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Stevio
I have a sound file that my client wants me to put on his web site. It is a radio advert that they currently have running. The format of the file is m4a (mp4). I have used a program that converts it to mp3 or other formats if required. What is the best way to go about including it on a web

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread sam sherlock
I would use Flash to play the audio and provide an alternative link to the sound file as alternative content thanks SS Stevio wrote: I have a sound file that my client wants me to put on his web site. It is a radio advert that they currently have running. The format of the file is m4a (mp4).

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Stevio
What is the benefit in using Flash to do something that you can quite easily do without flash? Stephen - Original Message - From: sam sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best

[WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread sam sherlock
Hi List, I visited the www.makepovertyhistory.org website last night and was pleased to see that the site uses Geoff Sterns FlashObject. This seems to reaffirm my opinion that the flashObject method of placing flash in the page is more approprate than the MM object / embed code and flash

RE: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Patrick Lauke
Stevio Should I keep it in the m4a format or use mp3 or use something else? I'd opt for mp3 I got it working with the following code: However, it doesn't work in Firefox. I need something that will work in different browsers and different platforms. As much as I hate saying it, you

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Matt Thommes
I would use Flash to play the audio and provide an alternative link to the sound file as alternative content Yes, I agree. Flash is extremely versatile with handling audio files - and if you have even just a little experience with Flash, you can easily export a SWF file with an MP3 embedded.

RE: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Foskett
I completely agree, use Flash. I'd say the same for video too, for the same reasons. Why: One solution multiple platforms. Saturation on all computers is over 90%. That's more than any browser. No platform compatibility issues Mac / PC. No browser issues Firefox / IE / Netscape / Opera.

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Hamshere
On 5/17/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hamshere wrote: Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already messed up at that point. After I zoom once more, it's a serious mess. Depending on which browser I open

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi Sam, Is there a reason why http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/video/?pageVideo=/flv/clickuk512k.flv does not display in Firefox v1.0.3 ? Reading the associated articles it should do, and when it doesn't it should display an alternative text version, though MPH probably forgot. Mike

Re: [WSG] got a safari hack

2005-05-17 Thread Ben Curtis
Is there an equivelant to the underscore hack for safari out there? Based on Bert Doorn's idea in January, I started developing and testing this: http://www.bivia.com/sandbox/safari-hack/ It was working perfectly as a Safari hack -- until Safari 1.3 (aka, Safari 2.0) came out with the

[WSG] very frustrated

2005-05-17 Thread Kvnmcwebn
Hello, I had spend a lot of time building a site with pure css and used a container template based on the custom corners method from ala. I got a lot of help here and i was happy with the design and at the ease of udating a site where the content is separated from the design. So today i sent my

RE: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Josef Dunne
I'd been recommended 80% as an ideal default text size by a wide variety of people, including, IIRC, the WAI. How would you recommend solving the problem? I would set the font size to 62.5% in the body tag. Then I would use Ems to set the sizes of all my fonts on the page, By setting the

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-17 Thread sam sherlock
It all works in firefox for me. But then I have 1.0.4, also works fin in Opera 8 a joyful browser, better thab ff, apart from the absence of extensions Just want to clarify that I did not work on the MPH site, I am using simular approach to them in terms of displaying flash content. I find it

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Stevio
Is there no standard way then to play an audio file (say mp3 for arguments sake) using the object tag? Is the only standard way to just link to it using a href=file.mp3? Stephen - Original Message - From: Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Geoff Deering
Mike Foskett wrote: I completely agree, use Flash. I'd say the same for video too, for the same reasons. Why: One solution multiple platforms. Saturation on all computers is over 90%. That's more than any browser. What data is this statistic based on? Regards Geoff Deering

RE: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi Stephen, As stated the best method to embed sound is using Flash but there are other techniques. This is the last version I used for playing a single MP3 with a play / stop button: In XHTML: object id=sound classid=clsid:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95 height=25px width=25px

RE: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Geoff, Stat based on these figures from Macromedia: Macromedia Flash by Version March 2005 V. 2 V. 3 V. 4 V. 5 V. 6 * V. 7 * US 98.3% 98.2% 98.1% 97.8% 96.8%90.0% Canada 98.8% 98.7% 98.7% 98.6% 97.0%90.3% Europe 99.3% 99.2% 99.2% 99.2%

[WSG] CSS for changeing colors

2005-05-17 Thread The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store
I do not know if this is off topic. Can CSS be used to change background and foreground colors to create a more accessible web site.? If so, how? Or please direct me to a web site that discusses the topic. Angus MacKinnon MacKinnon Crest Saying Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat English - Fortune

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread designer
Thanks all - I got 'Tidy' and found that very useful. However, in this instance I am copying and pasting from Word, so a special thanks, Kay, for that wisdom. I never use design view either, so I didn't know about that valuable trick! Brilliant! Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.)

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Tom Livingston
On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:13:50 -0400, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stat based on these figures from Macromedia: I might add that these are merely posted on MM's site. The study was independent. http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/ There is a link that speaks

Re: [WSG] CSS for changeing colors

2005-05-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store wrote: I do not know if this is off topic. Can CSS be used to change background and foreground colors to create a more accessible web site.? If so, how? Or please direct me to a web site that discusses the topic. Alternative styles article:

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Hamshere wrote: On 5/17/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of your 80% default font size, I have to zoom at least one step to use those Flights selects. They're already messed up at that point. After I zoom once more, it's a serious mess. Depending on which browser I

Re: [WSG] very frustrated

2005-05-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/17/05, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious-Does anyone here do asp and if so would using the ala custom corners method for a basic wrapper/template be very difficult to convert over to asp? While a competent server-side programmer in any language should be able to do almost

Re: [WSG] very frustrated

2005-05-17 Thread Bruce Morrison
This may help: Transparent custom corners and borders Rounded corners, no extra markup, script required. Now that were finally embracing JavaScript, all those complicated markup kludges are a thing of the past. http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200505/transparent_custom_corners_and_borders/

Re: [WSG] very frustrated

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 04:17 PM 5/17/2005, Bruce Morrison wrote: This may help: Transparent custom corners and borders Rounded corners, no extra markup, script required. Now that we¢re finally embracing JavaScript, all those complicated markup kludges are a thing of the past.

[WSG] help with Linux version of the colour contrast analyser 1.0

2005-05-17 Thread Steven . Faulkner
We have had a number of requests for a linux version of the colour contrast analyser [CCA], a freeware tool,(http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html), but do not have the skills to do this ourselves, is anybody who does have the skills ,or knows someone,

Re: [WSG] search field image alignment--help

2005-05-17 Thread RMW Web Publishing
Quite easily: CSS: #searchSubmit { border: none; background: url(filename.gif) no-repeat; } XHTML: input type=submit id=searchSubmit / Of course you will need to modify this to suit your site. PS: the code you just showed is missing an equals sign ('=') in the 'name' attribute. A

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
I have written my little typograph in JavaScript. It is not tested enough, but it can do all this things plus add nbsp after short words (like a, an, the, on, of, etc). http://siter.com.au/dmitry/typo/ Hope it will help someone ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Geoff Deering
Tom Livingston wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:13:50 -0400, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stat based on these figures from Macromedia: I might add that these are merely posted on MM's site. The study was independent. http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/ There

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: You might say but the text looks too big if I just leave it like that. Make it smaller then. But *in your browser*. As idealistic as it sounds, the devil's advocate counter question: are you going to tell every single user of your site to do that in their browser? because sure

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/18/05, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I have never come across a browser, which installed with Macromedia Flash pre-installed. IE6 comes with Flash player pre-installed. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Geoff Deering
Kay Smoljak wrote: On 5/18/05, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I have never come across a browser, which installed with Macromedia Flash pre-installed. IE6 comes with Flash player pre-installed. All versions, or a specific implementation/installation? Geoff

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread sachin wagh
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Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/18/05, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE6 comes with Flash player pre-installed. All versions, or a specific implementation/installation? I can't say for sure, but my feeling is that it's all versions. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Geoff Deering
Kay Smoljak wrote: On 5/18/05, Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE6 comes with Flash player pre-installed. All versions, or a specific implementation/installation? I can't say for sure, but my feeling is that it's all versions. Well, I have installed WinXP (initial

Re: [WSG] Playing a sound file - what is the best way?

2005-05-17 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day IE6 comes with Flash player pre-installed. I can't say for sure, but my feeling is that it's all versions. Although I don't see how the user base of a particular product is standards related, here's some info that might help. I have just (today) installed (OEM) Windows 2003 Small Business