[WSG] SV: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-02 Thread Heine Jensvold



Use the CSS Background Properties:
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_background.asp

Butthe picturewill not display with CSS 
off...

Heine


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Hi,on this site http://www.champion.com.ua/ or here http://pravda.com.ua/in main column you can 
see a lot of news boxesi mean image+heading+paragraph of textIt is 
implemented as a table.image is first cell and text is second. The 
problem is:How to implement it with CSS so that text will not be under the 
image.The obvious img{float:left} is not good - client dont want the text to 
be displayed under the image.If all images ware the same size - it would be 
simple - just add margin to p, but its not like that... :(And i hate 
creating classes like that: .img110px .img180px .So how can i 
implement this table-like thing?Can it be done with "standards"? i mean 
without non-semantic-table.I cant find the wayAny 
ideas?-- glhf,akella. 
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[WSG] Image Thumnail Advice

2005-07-02 Thread Cole Kuryakin - x7m



Hello All -

I'm having a mess of a time getting sharp thumbnails of the 
site's I've built into a thumbnail format.

Here's what I do:

1. Load the home page of a site into a browser
2. Use a screen capture utility to snap an image of the home 
page
3. paste the capture into PhotoShop
4. Transform/Scale the image from it's captured size (760 
pixels x 550 pixels) down to a165x 115 pixel thumbnail

And...everything turns to mud - or pretty close to 
it.
If I sharpen the thumb, it's slightly better, but sharpen too 
much and it's "halo" city. Yuck.

I know it's an issue of pixel loss during the reduction, but 
what to do?

Surely there must be a better way as I've seen some sites with 
small thumbs of large images that are excellent looking.

What are they doing (or what are YOU doing) that I'm 
not?

Thanks to al in advance,

Cole



Re: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice

2005-07-02 Thread dwain

Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:

What are they doing (or what are YOU doing) that I'm not?


i size my thumbnails from the original.

dwain


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RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice

2005-07-02 Thread Chris Dawes








Use save for web then use the resize tab
below the output options. Chose jpeg medium from the top. Should be good
quality output.



Chris Dawes











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Subject: [WSG] Image Thumnail
Advice







Hello All -











I'm having a mess of a time getting sharp thumbnails of the site's I've
built into a thumbnail format.











Here's what I do:











1. Load the home page of a site into a browser





2. Use a screen capture utility to snap an image of the home page





3. paste the capture into PhotoShop





4. Transform/Scale the image from it's captured size (760 pixels x 550
pixels) down to a165x 115 pixel thumbnail











And...everything turns to mud - or pretty close to it.





If I sharpen the thumb, it's slightly better, but sharpen too much and
it's halo city. Yuck.











I know it's an issue of pixel loss during the reduction, but what to
do?











Surely there must be a better way as I've seen some sites with small
thumbs of large images that are excellent looking.











What are they doing (or what are YOU doing) that I'm not?











Thanks to al in advance,











Cole
















Re: [WSG] SV: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-02 Thread tee
 The obvious img{float:left} is not good - client dont want the text to be
 displayed under the image.
 If all images ware the same size - it would be simple - just add margin to
 p, but its not like that... :(
 And i hate creating classes like that: .img110px  .img180px .

I think this is the better solution than the background image.  You don't
need to declare image size but the margin or padding and float left or
right.
For example:

.image {
float: right; /* or left */
border: 2px solid #d3d3d3;
margin-left: 10px;
}

When image inserts to the p, your text will float around image according.

Examples from a site I was working:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html  (I have the image
temporarily inserted in front of h3 )

http://clients.lotusseeds.com/style.html (image is inserted in the p tag)

If you want different padding/margin, border and float declared but  don't
want to bother to create different classes in your css files, you can do
this:

p img src=yourimage.jpg alt= width=95 height=151  style=float:
left; margin-left: 0.7em; margin-bottom: 0.5em/
Blah blah blah /p

tee

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RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice

2005-07-02 Thread Jona Decker



You wrote:


3. paste the capture into 
PhotoShop
4. Transform/Scale the image from it's 
captured size (760 pixels x 550 pixels) down to a165x 115 pixel 
thumbnail


First, don't use 
transform/scale. Use the Image...Image Size command. It should already be set 
correctlyto 72 dpi, constrain dimensions (checked), resample...bicubic 
(checked). If not, make it so.

Now, resize in 
steps. If you're starting with 760, half it. Now resize again at least once 
more. I'd probably divide the max dimension intothree or 
fourand resize it progressively down.

Next apply an 
Unsharp Mask (Filter...Sharpen...Unsharp Mask). Somewhere between 50 and 100% 
should do the trick. Every once in awhile there is value to sharpening after 
each resize. It depends on the image. You could also use bicubic sharpen but 
honestly I usually see better results with a sharpen only applied on the final 
image.

Alternately, 
if you're trying to include thumbnails of screenshots in a print portfolio (?), 
go toImage...Image Size and change the resolution to 
300.Keepthe constrain dimensions checked, but this time change the 
resample dropdown to"Nearest Neighbor" (checked). This last part will 
avoid anti-aliasing. Key is saving it as a TIF or similar at this 
point...If you "save for web..." you'll end up back at 72 
dpi.

Jona
Web 
Services
MEA


RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice [THREAD CLOSED]

2005-07-02 Thread Peter Firminger



Ok, enough on 
that thanks. 

This is a 
'PhotoShop how to'rather thana Web Standards 
discussion.

Peter