Mugur,
This article only
discusses reducing the HTML size which if you take a look at the site is
already rather anorexic. Loading an image once, caching it for potentially
weeks, and not loading anything other than small HTML pages as they browse the
rest of the site seems like the
The problem is youre
designing for a technology [DSL],
not accessibility. May I suggest a handheld stylesheet to alleviate some of the
problem with a large media screen footprint?
Edward Clarke
ECommerce and Software
Consultant
TN38 Consulting
http://blog.tn38.net
I vaguely recall that red on black is not a very good color choice.
I always test my color schemes at http://colorfilter.wickline.org/ and
Russ' link from last week is a good primer:
http://jfly.iam.u-tokyo.ac.jp/color/
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
On 25 Jul 2005, at 3:21 PM, Mordechai Peller
On 25 Jul 2005, at 5:08 PM, Edward Clarke wrote:
Yes – I think 120kb is big (not huge though). If there is a way to
make it smaller, feel free to suggest and I’ll implement.
As an aside, please spare a thought for those of us on this list stuck
on 56k lines? The messages in this thread are
Thanks Patrick,
Your diagnosis was spot on, I do have php installed and
I do have "short tags" enabled, that's what wascausing the problem. Thanks
for your help.
Cheers
Peter McCarthy
There's a good article here:
http://jfly.iam.u-tokyo.ac.jp/color/
which goes through all the variations quite well.
Thanks,
Tatham Oddie
Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea
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Edward,
The full stylesheet is
only served for media=screen. For media=print and
media=handheld they currently just get the raw page, which due to
the mark-up works quite well anyway.
Is this what you mean
at all?
Thanks,
Tatham Oddie
Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea
Mugur,
I hope you are
not upset with me.
Not at all. J
I just fail to
understand people who are concerned about pages under 150k. Until about 2 years
ago, 50k was my limit. However since then, Ive been happy to add about
50k per year to that limit in line with the uptake of
Hi
Tatham,
Perhaps you should consider the bandwidth cost of serving such a 'large'
page.
Perhaps it's not an issue if your site has a small target audience, but
if your site will attract many many visitors, it will eventually become a
burden, and more expense to the client.
You
are
Quote: only from lists such as this where people impose limits
without thinking about how networks are evolving.
Youre assuming
everyone has DSL at low contention. As you mention, networks are evolving, more
so wirelessly where bandwidth is even more of a premium which is justification
G'day
I just fail to understand people who are concerned about pages under 150k.
Well, you probably fail to take a few things into account. Like
people leaving a slow loading site rather than complaining. Like
the cost of bandwidth. Like availability of broadband. I could
go on, but I
On 7/25/05 2:50 AM Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
But how about cutting down the size of your emails and making
them plain text? No need to repeatedly quote 40k of text with
all that Micro$oft formatting in it.
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100% agreement here.
You would have thought that a web standards group would be using a more
web standards compliant email client like Thunderbird ?
Rick Faaberg wrote:
On 7/25/05 2:50 AM "Bert Doorn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
But how about cutting down the size of your emails and making
them
Hi there
Thanks for your previous help on css - though I was
sure I had tried the very same solution and it hadn't
worked!
My problem is a data
tablethat I am using for aconference program. I have used CSS to
style the table and it has no attributes on any of the
elements.
I have 2
On 7/25/05, Chris Cowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You would have thought that a web standards group would be using a more web
standards compliant email client like Thunderbird ?
Targetting email clients is like targetting browsers, which is soo 90.
And don't forget the few of us who are on
I have 2 tables on the same page which I want to look identical for
different days of the week. One has a small amount of text and so displays
differently to the larger table. If I add a width to the table - it doesn't
make any difference - if I add it to the td/th - it still doesn't work.
On 25 Jul 2005, at 4:02 PM, Tatham Oddie (Fuel Advance) wrote:
Regarding the CSS errors - they are all IE hacks
* html is your friend. It validates and only IE loads it, and you can
group 'em together as a block rather than polluting individual rules.
Hide your PC only hacks from Macs using
Title: Message
Hello,
I can't figure out
why there is such a large gap at the top of the #content area. I know
there should be .5em of h1, but this is larger.
http://tagav.com/dev/home.shtml
http://tagav.com/dev/css/styles.css
Thanks,
White
Ash
White Ash wrote:
Hello,
I can't figure out why there is such a large gap at the top of the
#content area. I know there should be .5em of h1, but this is larger.
http://tagav.com/dev/home.shtml
http://tagav.com/dev/css/styles.css
Thanks,
White Ash
If you are interested in converting
G'day
I can't figure out why there is such a large gap at the top of the #content
area. I know there should be .5em of h1, but this is larger.
http://tagav.com/dev/home.shtml
If you put a background on your #header, you will see where the
gap comes from. It's in the #header.
The browser
Hey hey,
Thanks to those who managed to make it to the meeting last Thursday in
Sydney. I just want to say it was a lot of fun and thanks for being a
great audience.
For those who wanted a copy of the preso, or didn't make the meeting,
I've posted a (slighty cleaned up) copy here:
Listers,
I felt the need to share this. My apologies if this is Holy-War territory,
annoying or even more OT than I think it is...
I found this in one of the stories on browsehappy.com:
snip
...Until then, I had no idea that that there were other programs that
could do what Internet
This article only discusses reducing the HTML size. which if you take a look
at the site is already rather anorexic. Loading an image once, caching it
for potentially weeks, and not loading anything other than small HTML pages
as they browse the rest of the site seems like the smartest way it's
Aha ~
That clarifies a part of the mystery ~ thanks for that. I took out the
table cell height and declared a height for the #header area in the css. No
dice. I would love to do it via div's only, but for now would be happy if
I could make the light table work. Any other ideas on that?
Sites where designers can show off their chops cater to a specific
audience - other designers who want to be thrilled by a primarily
visual experience. There is nothing wrong with eye candy sites for
people interested in eye candy, but using such examples as an argument
in support of creating
Hi Terrence: in checking the speed report (under Tools in FF), the site
comes through with flying colors - under 4K.
http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/Home/Index.fuel
Donna Jones wrote:
I'm not sure i understand what all the feedback regarding the background
image is about either. it seems to me that the size of the html is what
matters, its not like the page is dependant on the background. i'm half
a planet away, n. U.S., the html loads real well, then
Hi,
The background image only renders across 3/4 of the viewport in
Safari 2.0.
On Jul 24, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Tatham Oddie ((Fuel Advance)) wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve just placed the first page of a new site on our test-drive
server:
http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/
Which is
G'day
I took out the table cell height and declared a height
for the #header area in the css. No dice.
Worked for me in Firefox, but I did not check other browsers
I would love to do it via div's only, but for now would be happy if
I could make the light table work. Any other ideas on
Thanks Donna, that's funny.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
On 26 Jul 2005, at 10:03 AM, Donna Jones wrote:
Hi Terrence: in checking the speed report (under Tools in FF), the
site comes through with flying colors - under 4K.
http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/Broadleaf/Home/Index.fuel
Not exactly a clean user experience then. Particularly troublesome when
designers rely on the background image and define colour for their text
to be readable against it, but fail to provide fallback background colour.
Zengarden is an experimental site, showcasing in many cases how one can
Hi,
I'm playing with both Pure CSS Popup technics developed by Eric Meyer.
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html
I'm wondering if there is any issue by doing a merging between both
technics.
I want to show popup images,
Hi,
Well,
Now, I have understood the solution.
I need to add a property to the a:hover rule.
a:hover {
border: none;
}
Voilà!
Now it works in IE6...
Weird, weird bug...
Julián
Julián Landerreche wrote:
Hi,
I'm playing with both Pure CSS Popup technics developed by Eric Meyer.
ok i'm having a problem, I have a nav section on my page (see code below) that should be limited to the navwrapper div but it's not, anywhere on the page I make a link it's styled like the nav even outside the div, never had this problem before any ideas? tia #navwrapper { padding: 5px;
G'day
I'd say your problem is here:
#navwrapper li a:link, a:visited {
See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the page.
I think you meant to say:
#navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited {
Regards
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http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Doh, got beaten to it. :P
I second Bert's opinion.On 7/26/05, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'dayI'd say your problem is here:#navwrapper li a:link, a:visited {See the a:visited?That affects ALL links on the page.I think you meant to say:#navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited {
an actual live example will help because if your CSS is the same as
Eric's then the problem lies in your html -- e.g. it could be a doctype
issue. position:relative on your 'a' delcaration might help.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
On 26 Jul 2005, at 2:30 PM, Julián Landerreche wrote:
But it
yup that was it, i completely missed that, thanks :)From: Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:04 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] link ?G'dayI'd say your problem is here: #navwrapper li a:link, a:visited {See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the
I think this might be off topic, so please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to get a simple colour switcher
happening and having no luck. Can someone please help me get mine fixed or
help with another simple one? Thank you.
My main style sheet (ifsmain.css) is in a positive image. My
Lets try and keep the broadleaf discussion on topic and polite, shall
we people?
Thank you!
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