Re: [WSG] IE floating bug

2005-09-10 Thread Ingo Chao

Rowan Lewis wrote:

http://www.pixelcarnage.com/development/evolt_lives

See how the input element is pushed down and its surrounding paragraph
element isn't? The input element is down the very bottom.



I think this is the 3px txt jog [1]

The sidebar/panel is a right float

#panel { ...
float: right;
width: 20em;
}

and its hardwired 3px txt jog affects the subsequent elements, but

#content {
border-right: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223);
margin: 0pt 20em 0pt 0pt;
min-width: 20em;
}

#content has no layout [2], therefore the 3px txt jog affects its child 
elements too:


form p.text input {
...
width: 100%;
}

form p.text textarea {
...
width: 100%;
}

but their width of 100% cause a "float drop" because there is only room 
for 100%-3px text jog next to this float.


This float drop drags the input below the bottom level of the float.

You can see this 3px as there is space between the borders on the right 
side.


For a fix, you should let #content gain layout via the holly hack or any 
other layout trigger. The whole #content would become boxed by the layout.


As the lenghts are in em, it will be difficult to recalculate to bring 
the borders in pair. In principle, the #panel float needs a -3px left 
margin and the #content needs a margin right of 20em-3px, which leads to 
scripting and rounding errors.


So I think it would be better to omit this double border.

Ingo

[1] http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/threepxtest.html
[2] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html#nextfloat






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[WSG] IE floating bug

2005-09-10 Thread Rowan Lewis
I think I might have found yet another float bug in Internet Explorer
(6). Take a look at this page:
http://www.pixelcarnage.com/development/evolt_lives

See how the input element is pushed down and its surrounding paragraph
element isn't? The input element is down the very bottom.

I'm stumped to what caused this, can anyone confirm?


Rowan Lewis (AKA. The Wolf)
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RE: [WSG] Site Check [BushidoDeep]

2005-09-10 Thread Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions
Have you run it through the validators you link to? You are showing errors
in the XHTML validator, which stops validation in the CSS validator.

You are also showing warnings when run through Tidy.

Regards

Scott Swabey
Lafinboy Productions
www.lafinboy.com

> -Original Message-
> On Behalf Of Chris Kennon
> Subject: [WSG] Site Check [BushidoDeep]
> I've put it through as many hoops (UA's) as I own, let me 
> know how it holds in yours.

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[WSG] META tag standards?

2005-09-10 Thread Gene Falck

Hi everyone,

I've been prowling around in our resources and in
Google but I haven't found this. (As usual, I may
just not know what to call my question.)

I understand about using lower case for tags and
attributes in XHTML (leaving content capitalization
unspecified to accommodate a wide range of strings)
but haven't seen anything on those value items that
seem to be relatively frequent and "standard" items.

For instance, I see the following variants in the
capitalization of values:

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[WSG] Site Check [BushidoDeep]

2005-09-10 Thread Chris Kennon

Hi,

I've put it through as many hoops (UA's) as I own, let me know how it  
holds in yours.



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Re: [WSG] the struggle to get valid

2005-09-10 Thread wybe

My main concern would be a programmer who NEEDS 25 br tags in a paragraph.
Forget about XHTML standards if this is the way you structure your 
presentation :)


Wybe.

Drake, Ted C. wrote:

I hope everyone has a nice weekend. 


I thought I'd share a little code I stumbled upon on one of our legacy
includes.

<
br>



I don't know how many times I have to tell the other programmers. If you are
going to use 25 br tags in a paragraph, you've got to close them! How are we
ever going to pass XHTML standards?  


Ted
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Re: [WSG]

2005-09-10 Thread heretic
I'm wondering about the use of the label tag in certain cases where thelabel relates to multiple fields.
Is there a recommended practice here? Should each select box have itsown label?
Yes, each one should have its own label; with the set grouped in a fieldset (with appropriate legend tag).
Also, should the label be descriptive. Can you have a label for=""

The contents of the label should obviously be descriptive; however the
for="" attribute relates to the ID attribute of the associated element,
which doesn't really need to be human-readable (although it may as well
be :)). If I recall correctly, IDs can't start with numbers so your
specific example would not be valid.
Hope that helps :)

cheers,

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Re: [WSG]

2005-09-10 Thread Kris Khaira

I'd do:

--- HTML ---


Time

Hour

01
02
03


Minute

01
02
03




--- CSS ---

/* To hide the labels
*/
fieldset#time_fieldset label {
display:none;
}




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Re: [WSG] the struggle to get valid

2005-09-10 Thread Kenny Graham
> I don't know how many times I have
> to tell the other programmers. If you
> are going to use 25 br tags in a
> paragraph, you've got to close them!
> How are we ever going to pass
> XHTML standards?

+5 mod points, funny karma.  wait.  wrong place.
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Re: [WSG]

2005-09-10 Thread Kenny Graham
I'd do:  Time      Hour      01  02
  03  ...        
    Minute
    
  01
  02
  03  ...
    
    ...Not sure if it's some kind of officially "recommended practice", it's just my opinion.