[WSG] IE MAC just won't play ball!

2005-09-24 Thread Adam Morris
HELP! I've just done a site for http://www.charismalab.com. Everything is great for Windows PC, Firefox, Safari BUT the client is looking at the site on her Mac OS 9 IE 5 and it's not right. I've use the import to use a separate style sheet which helped massively but there are some things that I

[WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Ok, maybe I'm being lazy, I'm googling for a good tutorial or exemples on the subject, and all I find is theory, so here it goes: I recently got a job as a web designer in a company whose site has previous decades markup. Apart from that I do all the companys graphic work, so time is short. The

Re: [WSG] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day As you can see I intend to set the width of the container and the banner into 75% and push them to the left. I intend to reserve the space available in the right after that for the sidebar whose width is set at 25% and positioned to the right. But unfortunately, the sidebar has floated to

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
If you want to use frames you have to use the frames doctype. And only the frames doctype. It should include everything you want to use.Now, in my opinion, you should try to redesign the frames structure in PHP, and do the top frame as a PHP include. Then you can even fix it on the page with CSS

Re: [WSG] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Dinh
Thank Bert Doorn, I have followed your instruction and it works on my Firefox 1.0.7. Here is my modifications: #sidebar { width:100%; background-color: #99; /* float:left; */ } #sidebar li { margin-left:20px; } It looks nice on Firefox:

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Thank you Christian, making the top frame a php include sounds like an excelent idea. The markee I was thinking in turning it a flash object, since there is already a flashmovie in the first page it shoudn't be a problem for users, I think it uses less processing resources. From what I've read

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
If you keep the frames-based layout and go with a frameset DTD for the frameset and a Strict DTD for the framed documents, you'll run into these problems: 1. IE will create an horizontal scrollbar in your top frame. The fix for this is to use scrolling=yes (I know it's weird). 2. To use target

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
Using flash for the marquee sounds like a great idea, and will probably be more attractive. I couldn't find the search page you were talking about. Could you give me a link directly to it? On 9/24/05, Isabel Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Christian, making the top frame a php include

Re: [WSG] IE MAC just won't play ball!

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
I think the problem here might have to do with the fact that your XHTML is invalid. Please run every page through the validator and fix all the errors. There are definitely elements on every page that have not been closed, and I think they are causing all the problems. On 9/24/05, Adam Morris

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Well Christian, it is not a search page, is a search engine, you can find its form at the top of this page: http://www.ocean-wings.com/principal.htm And the first time I looked at this site I didn't notice that the oval circlesat the animation on the first page were actually links to get in the

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
Oh wow, that page is going to give me a seizure. I can't look at it anymore. You were saying the client doesn't want to change the look of the site, because it has such a loyal user base. I think the users like the site because it is very useful for them, not because of the appearance. I don't

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Hi Thierry, thank you very mutch! I still dont know how to extend the DTD, but you are giving me very good reasons not even to try it. (I hate when things get weird :) ). That's quite helpfull! There is always a good reason why experienced designers do not use some structures, I think I'll stick

Re: [WSG] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dinh wrote: #sidebar { width:100%; background-color: #99; /* float:left; */ } #sidebar li { margin-left:20px; } It looks nice on Firefox: http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4divfinal5ku.png but not in IE6: http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4divfinalie64rv.png The problem

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
:) Oh wow, that page is going to give me a seizure. I can't look at it anymore. Like I said, unrecomended for epileptics... (there areaccessibility rules on blinking gifs) Yet the bliking lights have an important meaning for them: They represent the landing lights for airplanes, off if the

Re: [WSG] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Dinh: The easiest way to fix it is to put the sidebar before the banner div in the markup (you dont need to change anything else, although I think you might wishset magins and paddingson the body to zero, it works ok). But you should not have to change the markup to format the layout, so I think

[WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread wybe
Hi I was wondering about the use of em's to determin your font size. What is the difference between using em's or percentages? Percentages work fine for me but W3C seem to be very enthousiastic about using em's. And another thing i can't figure out is this: what is the size of 1em? Is it the

RE: [WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
I believe the size of EM is the default size assigned by the browser, thus if the browsers default font size is 12px then 1em is 12px. Or if you set the body { font-size: 12px; } and p { font-size: 1.5em; } The size would be 18px. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but this is

Re: [WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread Felix Miata
wybe wrote: I was wondering about the use of em's to determin your font size. What is the difference between using em's or percentages? If http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingEms and http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingPercentages aren't good enough explanations, let's change them

Re: [WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread Zach Inglis
I think he meant in the middle of his layout if he uses an em and makes it bigger than the other text. There is no problem with this if its a chunk of text but if you're just using em as a single linesomewhere, then i'd say it was bad. On 24 Sep 2005, at 23:12, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox

Re: [WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread Zach Inglis
Disregard my last statement, I got the wrong end of the stick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] 'em' versus '%'

2005-09-24 Thread ncowie
The big advantage of em over % for font size is you can use em to control width of other sections of the web site like line length and container divs. An em is equal to the width of an uppercase M in that font face and point size, except on the web it is 16 pixels or the if the font size