Re: [WSG] clean forms with javascript injected for a site demo

2005-10-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Peter Ottery wrote: I consider this to be definately in the realm of best practices and at a stretch good xhtml practice, in terms of keeping the xhtml markup clean. (ie: i hope very much this isnt too off topic for this list :) If I understand correctly what you're looking for, take a look

[WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
Title: Message Hi all, I have a couple of questions which some of you might be able to answer for me. http://www.startregistration.com The first banner with the logo has some icons that should turn into clickable areas. Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that

RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
Title: Message I hada look at it in Mozilla, and I guess I better rephrase my question, how to fix ALL these issues that appear in Mozilla? In mozilla nothing looks like it should, for example; - the register by phone image is not in the right position and outside of its column - the

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi Taco, On 10/16/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.startregistration.com Validate your HTML first - at least then you can eliminate HTML nesting errors as the cause of your problem. Then post back and we'll give you a hand. Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak

RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
Hi, Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? The rest is the same, what is it talking about that I can't

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Kay Smoljak
that means there's a nesting error.. start from the top and make sure everything is closed. K. On 10/16/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Bert Doorn
Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? If you keep reading the

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-10-16 Thread Nathan Abood
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RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
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RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
All fixed, and the page still looks like a dogs breakfast in Mozilla. The first banner with the logo has some icons that should turn into clickable areas. Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Q: I had to add a few

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Nick Cowie
Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Cut the image up, image maps are server side if my memory serves me right and I don't think anybody has used has really them since 1996, because it is quicker to slice up an

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Nick Cowie wrote: Cut the image up, image maps are server side if my memory serves me right You can have server-side and client side maps. Server-side ones are frowned upon and not really used anymore, but client side maps work quite nicely and even accessibly...just give an adequate alt

[WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Jad Madi
Hi, I want to start learning coding JS, but as usual I want to stick with the standards, I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? or what do you think of those books DHTML Utopia Modern

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Jad Madi wrote: I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? I'd go for Jeremy Keith's new DOM Scripting book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590595335/103-7301643-7270227

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/10/16, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jad Madi wrote: I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? I'd go for Jeremy Keith's new DOM Scripting book

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Jad Madi wrote: I want to start learning coding JS, but as usual I want to stick with the standards, I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, It's important to realize that JavaScript programing and DOM scripting are two different things. As ist happens, DOM

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Mordechai and all, You wrote: or what do you think of those books DHTML Utopia Modern Web Design Using JavaScript DOM I've read so good reviews. I have that book and find it a bit disappointing--I tried out some of the ideas and find that, 1. Browser variations are such as to make it

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Kirkwood | Motive
Hi Taco, SINGLE IMAGE vs MULTIPLE IMAGES A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. HTTP requires a new connection to be made to the server for each file (i.e. image). Even when the single image filesize is the same as the sum of the individual files, reconnecting to

[WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications

2005-10-16 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Although I've worked with CSS for quite sometime, I've just scratched the surface of advanced CSS solutions. After ogling Amazon for the better part of the morning I've only mustered a throbbing headache. So many publications and only conflicting opinions surrounding their

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Andy Kirkwood | Motive wrote: SINGLE IMAGE vs MULTIPLE IMAGES A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. At last...I thought I was the only one in the know with this tiny yet often misunderstood piece of info. It only gives the illusion to be faster to the user

Re: [WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications

2005-10-16 Thread Zach Inglis
Jeffrey Zeldman's is a good one. I've heard Eric Meyers is too. On 16 Oct 2005, at 22:08, Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Although I've worked with CSS for quite sometime, I've just scratched the surface of advanced CSS solutions. After ogling Amazon for the better part of the morning I've only

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 10/17/05, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best books on JavaScript is: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, by David Flanagan (O'Reilly Associates, Inc.) Couldn't agree more. A fantastic reference manual that will remain on my desk for years to come. Here's the complete

Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-10-16 Thread Peter Ottery
On 10/15/05, Stefan wrote: How can I make the Table fill the full width of the column in FireFox and IE 6? same thing happened to me with that type of layout. I added the following rules to the tables and it sorted it for me: table {width:100%;float:left} cheers, pete

RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Geoff Pack
Andy Kirkwood wrote: A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. HTTP requires a new connection to be made to the server for each file (i.e. image). Even when the single image filesize is the same as the sum of the individual files, reconnecting to download each

Re: [WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications

2005-10-16 Thread Nick Cowie
Books CSS by examples I own both these and they are good to work through, I have learnt from both books. More Eric Meyer on CSS by Eric Meyer The Zen of CSS Design by Dave Shea and Molly Holzschlag Courses: West Civ http://www.westciv.com/courses/index.html there is even a free one to tempt you

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Kevin Futter
On 17/10/05 8:01 AM, Andrew Krespanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/17/05, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best books on JavaScript is: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, by David Flanagan (O'Reilly Associates, Inc.) Couldn't agree more. A fantastic reference manual

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Mark Harris
Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! and the Tooth Fairy, I suppose? ;-) f you have found

Re: [WSG] Web page check

2005-10-16 Thread Alan Trick
This tool might help: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.jimjacobe.com/ClassDescriptions.html Alan Trick GALLAGHER Kevin S wrote: First off the site was designed before Firefox and was my first site. Now I have been seeing things were Firefox is displaying something’s

Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.

2005-10-16 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Taco, First Tip: I would start over (CSS-wise) and work on getting getting it right in Mozilla/Firefox first, then look at the other browsers next. When you code for IE first, you'll always have a number of mysteries to solve. Other tip: When having troubles, always go back to the raw

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Mark Harris
Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! and the Tooth Fairy, I suppose? ;-) f you have found

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Andrew Krespanis
My sincerest apologies to the group regarding the links in my previous post. Youthful naivety shines through once more :-o Please keep any further abuse off-list; it's not relevant to the thread. :) On 10/17/05, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the