Re: [WSG] Re: University textbook or other resources?

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
Laura Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been asked if there are useful university-focused textbooks or other resources suitable for teaching accessible web design. Hi Laura, if you didn't know already, these are superb live resources in addition to books: http://www.accessify.com/

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread csslist
its designed to fit on a 800 x 600 and it fits right down to the bottom of the scroll area, sure the bottom of the reels arent showing and thats fine. "So now one has to scroll both the window and the inner element in order to get to the content. Cute." Ok smart ass, thats 1 page that has a

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
csslist wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: So now one has to scroll both the window and the inner element in order to get to the content. Cute. Ok smart ass, thats 1 page that has a vertical scroller because I havent resized the flash form on that 1 FRICKIN page, so there is a scroll bar, geezo

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/25/05, csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its designed to fit on a 800 x 600 and it fits right down to the bottom of the scroll area, sure the bottom of the reels arent showing and thats fine. This is a 1:1 image of my browser viewport: http://space.rdpdesign.com/reels.jpg Notice the

Re: [WSG] Re: University textbook or other resources?

2005-11-26 Thread Alan Trick
Since your at a univeristy you might as well take the time to go over the some of the more theoretical stuff. This is particlularly a good ida if your talking to CS students who are more interested in that kind of thing. Probably one of most important things is Semantics. Paricularly the

Re: [WSG] xhtml doctypes and charsets

2005-11-26 Thread Alan Trick
My personal feeling is that you should be using the HTML 4.01 doctype. Your not going to achive anything by using an XHTML doctype and it's technically invalid. Remember *every User Agent will (and should) treat your code as HTML*. If you put a skirt on a man it won't make him a woman. Weather or

[WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)

2005-11-26 Thread Web Man Walking
Title: Dragon Way (Site Check) Hello I have developed a site for a client and all seems fine, compliant, etc. works ace in IE and FF. I dont have a MAC and client is complaining of: 1. Homepage - Text under dolls is not centred 2. Homepage - No logo showing 3. Rest of site - Top bar

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread csslist
"I could show you a million websites with the background graphic positioned at the bottom of the content."gee, really??? now wayyy!!! I don't recall asking you for your opinon on it and I didn't ask for a site check and unless you are paying the bill for the site then I will listen to the people

Re: [WSG] BOM and charset declaration in CSS

2005-11-26 Thread Dejan Kozina
I do use @charset (utf-8); even if it actually serves no purpose: some time ago I've put it in my default CSS template file and never cared about it anymore... You can safely remove the BOM from any utf-8 document, as it serves no purpose: http://www.unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#29. If your

[WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
Hiya all, I've been working in my free time for over a month to create the best possible standards compliant theme for the Typo weblog system. It's an entry for the Typo theme contest. My template is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict and should work in a very large amount of browsers. I still have

RE: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Stephen Stagg
Actually, a workaround has been proposed for your specific problem (see earlier in the thread). If Ive read your post correctly, you have ignored common accessibility and layout standards/conventions to create a static design and then want the standards group list to help you work around

Re: [WSG] Casual Friday[Drop-Down Menus]

2005-11-26 Thread Michael Wilson
Chris Kennon wrote: I've adopted the philosophy, drop down menus are a surrogate for detailed Information Architecture. Sub-navigation should be introduced on internal pages to navigate sub-sections. Before passing this along to clients as mantra, I thought seeking the advice of the

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
My question: What do you guys think of the template, Great! do you spot any problems in certain browsers In FF 1.5, when I hover over the links on the right, the pop out to the left 1 pixel. When I scroll down and back up, they are fine again. I'm not sure if this is an FF problem or

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Bernard Sandberg
Hiya all, My question: What do you guys think of the template, do you spot any problems in certain browsers and is there a way to get it to behave in MSIE 5.2 for mac? My experience is that with Fx 1.0.7, the text seems quite unreadable and blurry. I don't know if this is intentional, but it

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Marco, The template looks really great... but why does the text look jagged. I get a javascript error using W2K/FF 1.07 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] Re: University textbook or other resources?

2005-11-26 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Alan Trick wrote: As far as server side languages like PHP, JSP, and the other abominations - I think that probably belongs in another course. Being far removed from higher education, I'd kind of skipped this thread but that caught my eye; the originating comment: For example, Movable Type,

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
Hmm this is funny... There's one person reporting it's blurry while another one calls it jagged. Could this have something to do with font smoothing settings? I do know the jagged look is because of ClearType not being enabled. Win2k doesn't even have it at all which will render any

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Marco van Hylckama Vlieg
I just tried FF 1.5RC3 on my mac and I am not experiencing this behaviour so I guess it's indeed some sort of rounding error. It does fix the problem 1.0.7 has with the tags cloud in the sidebar having more right margin than left margin. That looks like it does in Safari and MSIE now,

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
.sidebar-node li a { display: block; margin: 0; width: 206px; background: url(../../images/theme/sidebar_linkbullet.gif) no-repeat top left; font-size: 11px; font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #aaa; line-height: 18px; text-decoration: none; padding: 0 0 0 23px; } bah, pixel

Re: [WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)

2005-11-26 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 11/25/05 12:45 AM Web Man Walking [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I don¹t have a MAC I do. And it's Mac, not MAC. Mac is short for Macintosh. 1. Homepage - Text under dolls is not centred Seems okay in Safari. 2. Homepage - No logo showing If that's the green, phallic sort of thing,

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread csslist
First of all I appriciate all help I get and I can take critizism fine when I ask for it. Ok, so if we do it your way on your browser (lets just say..) to read the page you will have to scroll the screen down and so when you want a new link you will have to scroll all the way back up to do it,

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
And yet you have offered nothing yet to help with the question, so why answer? You misunderstand. My reason for telling you this is that there is nothing you can do about your problem with the current layout. If the client wants it that way, then that's fine, no need to argue. Just keep in

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
csslist wrote: and I know what you are saying but we didn't want the pages to be big long pages it needed to fit within the browser(and NOT scroll), so your answer would depned upon how you want the website to be, whether you like it or not. So now one has to scroll both the window and the

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread csslist
Then I appologize Christian, This is due like today and I'm really growchy but it's what they want and if it needs changed then we change it. I was opposed to the idea just like you are now but it's grown on me and I kinda like it. But you gotta remember we are targettting their main audience

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
and if you take the overflow out the content just flows right on out over the bg and right down the page that would beautiful wouldnt it I could show you a million websites with the background graphic positioned at the bottom of the content. Why not split that background image up and do

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/26/05, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gotta be pixel sized or it will screw up big time when the letters get bigger than the area they're in. What's so wrong with pixel size anyway? Just out of curiosity... Actually, the list items are fine when I resize them.

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
I could have sworn I got all these e-mails last night, what's going on?!? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
On Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:53 PM, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could have sworn I got all these e-mails last night, what's going on?!? Ditto. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread marco
What exactly do you mean by 'making them work the same way the list items do' ? And yes, a screenshot would be nice because I can't see any problem neither on my PC nor on my mac Thanks in advance, Marco On 11/26/05, Marco van Hylckama Vlieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gotta be pixel

Re: [WSG] site check: theme for Typo

2005-11-26 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly do you mean by 'making them work the same way the list items do' ? And yes, a screenshot would be nice because I can't see any problem neither on my PC nor on my mac Thanks in advance, Marco Here you go:

RE: [WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)

2005-11-26 Thread bill
Title: Dragon Way (Site Check) Hi Ed, I dont have a Mac so couldnt look at the site. I did want to offer a comment, though, about point #1 (non-centered text). I viewed it on a variety of browsers on PC. Technically, I guess, the client is correct: the text isnt centerd. The entire

RE: [WSG] Positioning Image problems

2005-11-26 Thread bill
Hi there Kevin, I downloaded your page to take a closer look at it. The waterservices site wasn't available to me at the moment (though I did see it earlier today), but the greenacres site, specifically the page with the photo, was tough to wade through. So, I ran it through the validater

Re: [WSG] xhtml doctypes and charsets

2005-11-26 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Alan Trick wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 10:46 -0400, The Snider's Web wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;

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2005-11-26 Thread tonyzeoli
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