Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

2006-03-05 Thread Steve Olive


On 04/03/2006, at 4:12 AM, Brian Cummiskey wrote:

I serve all kinds of various ads, be it adsense, ypn, custom ads,  
and other refferal style ads.


The problem, is that they give you non-standards code, onMouseOver  
status bar changes, etc etc   but you aren't allowed to change  
the code, for its against their TOS.



Anyone have a workaround?

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I was interested in your observation, so i signed up for Google  
Adsense (I'd been thinking about it for a while anyway), and included  
the code into my web site. As my site is generated using phpWebSite I  
actually placed the script into my template file but only allowing it  
to display on the home page. My home page (XHTML Transitional 1.0)  
went from zero errors  warnings to 65 errors - all related to the  
Google Adsense frame generated from their JavaScript code.


I decided to try the Google feedback form and received the following  
encouraging reply:


Thank you for your email. We greatly appreciate your feedback about our
code validating as XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Your comments provide us with
the assistance we need to optimize our program, so please continue to  
give

us feedback in the future.

For additional questions, we suggest you visit our AdSense Support  
site at

https://www.google.com/support/adsense . If you're unable to find an
answer to your question on our site, please feel free to reply to this
email.

Sincerely,

David
The Google AdSense Team
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Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

2006-03-05 Thread kvnmcwebn

Hello all,
Below is a site in progress.

http://www.donegalengineers.com/index.htm


The footer likes to float up in firefox. as is visible in this page
http://www.donegalengineers.com/results.htm

any ideas why?



p.s.
The last site i showed here got slagged silly for the font size.
For this site I had originally tried 100% and  83% for body copy as was 
suggested by a  moderate replier.

When the client first saw the site he immediately requested the font size be
brought down so i cranked it back to 75%. That being said i didnt put up 
much of a fight but i still might try and get him to agree to an increase.




thanks
kvnmcwebn 



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Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

2006-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

kvnmcwebn wrote:
The footer likes to float up in firefox. as is visible in this page 
http://www.donegalengineers.com/results.htm


any ideas why?


Delete whatever 'height' you've set on #main-contentlistings, as that's
what Firefox (and Opera and all other good browsers) are obeying. IE6
doesn't obey dimensions, but that bugger doesn't need that height either.


p.s. The last site i showed here got slagged silly for the font size.
 For this site I had originally tried 100% and  83% for body copy as
 was suggested by a  moderate replier. When the client first saw the
 site he immediately requested the font size be brought down so i 
cranked it back to 75%. That being said i didnt put up much of a 
fight but i still might try and get him to agree to an increase.


Clients seems to want to prevent visitors from /reading/ what's on their
sites, and I guess that's ok as long as long as you tell them that it
doesn't always work :-)

You may at least avoid 'fixed font-sizes' for IE6' users sake, and trim
it slightly so overlapping is avoided if/when IE6 'ignores font-sizes'
and other browsers apply 'min font size' and 'resizing'. Should do, I think.

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Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

2006-03-05 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks george, 
your the man.


-will do on the fixed font sizes


-best 
kvnmcwebn


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Re: [WSG] Ads breaking Compliancy

2006-03-05 Thread Alvaro Mouriño
I've collaborated with the PAN/MMM (phpAdsNew/Max Media Manager)
project [0] by patching the code it embeds in the page to place the
ads, which was not XHTML compliant (it is now =) [1]
There are few projects that take this matter seriously.

AlvAro

[0] http://www.phpadsnew.com/
[1] http://forum.phpadsnew.com/index.php?showtopic=10195hl=

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2006/3/5, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 thanks george,
 your the man.

 -will do on the fixed font sizes


 -best
 kvnmcwebn

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[WSG] Mollio

2006-03-05 Thread Peter Ottery
heya,
I presented a session on CSS at the WebDU conference in Sydney last week.

Part of the preso was the idea of having some simple pre-built
CSS/HTML templates to use as a project *starting point*. a toolkit of
sorts

So I've put my own toolkit (called Mollio) up for public consumption
in the hope that others will add to it, as I will continue to...
http://www.mollio.org/

I've set up a new google group to discuss the templates. Its linked
from the site.

As we know, when it comes to CSS there's always more than one way to
skin a cat so please keep in mind these templates are not intended to
be the absolute best way of structuring your CSS/HTML. That always
depends on your specific project.

I do find these Mollio templates are useful to use as a starting point
tho because the CSS/HTML has been constructed with robustness (is
that a word?) in mind - to allow chunks of the code to be copied 
pasted between projects and your layout/content remains intact or
requires little editing.

Anyway, enough of the gabbing, drop by and check out Mollio if you get a chance.

If youve got any thoughts about Mollio that would be of interest to
the wider WSG group, I guess post back here on the WSG list - if not,
drop by the Mollio Google Group and provide some
feedback/suggestions/contributions there.

cheers,
pete

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[WSG] Layout Glitch :: Help Me!

2006-03-05 Thread Andrew Brown
Help me WSG!

Hello community, I am having one of those want to pull your hair out
problems and cannot seem to isolate what is causing it.

Here is the URL
http://www.zargomedia.org/dump/services.html

Problem:
View this page in FireFox: Looks beautiful.
View this page in IE 6: Gap above my header div element.

I could place the div tag inside the header to remove the gap but then my
corners will not be transparent. Maybe someone has a magical CSS attribute
to solve my problem?

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Re: [WSG] Layout Glitch :: Help Me!

2006-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Andrew Brown wrote:

http://www.zargomedia.org/dump/services.html

Problem: View this page in FireFox: Looks beautiful. View this page 
in IE 6: Gap above my header div element.


I could place the div tag inside the header to remove the gap but 
then my corners will not be transparent. Maybe someone has a magical 
CSS attribute to solve my problem?


That's a typical HTML problem in IE/win. IE interprets an empty element
as if it has content inside, and adds line-height to it. That creates
the gap.

Solution: put an HTML comment inside the empty div, as IE6 will then
treat it correctly as if it has no content, thus no line-height.

div class=container_top!-- --/div

You can also define 'font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;' to the empty
element and achieve the same effect. Not as reliable though.

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RE: [WSG] Layout Glitch :: Help Me!

2006-03-05 Thread Andrew Brown
Thank you Georg,

I had not known that about IE and I believe has also caused me to
compensate many other designs. Thank you for that information.

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Layout Glitch :: Help Me!

Andrew Brown wrote:
 http://www.zargomedia.org/dump/services.html
 
 Problem: View this page in FireFox: Looks beautiful. View this page 
 in IE 6: Gap above my header div element.
 
 I could place the div tag inside the header to remove the gap but 
 then my corners will not be transparent. Maybe someone has a magical 
 CSS attribute to solve my problem?

That's a typical HTML problem in IE/win. IE interprets an empty element
as if it has content inside, and adds line-height to it. That creates
the gap.

Solution: put an HTML comment inside the empty div, as IE6 will then
treat it correctly as if it has no content, thus no line-height.

div class=container_top!-- --/div

You can also define 'font-size: 1px; line-height: 0;' to the empty
element and achieve the same effect. Not as reliable though.

Georg
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Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Ben Buchanan
.module will apply to any element with class=module, table.module
will only apply to table elements.

That's about it :) No doubt there's some deeper meaning that I've not
yet heard, of course... ;)

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Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Samuel Richardson
table.module will only apply the style to a table with class=module on 
it. .module will apply the style regardless of what element the class is on.


a.contentpagetitle:link will apply the style to any a tags with a 
.contentpagetitle class on them that is a link. .contentpagetitle a:link 
will apply the style to any elements INSIDE .contentpagetitle that are a 
link.



Barrie North wrote:

Hi all,
 
I need some help, what is the difference between:
 
table.module

and
.module
 
Is table.module just more specific or is there more going on?
 
Similar question between:


a.contentpagetitle:link
and
.contentpagetitle a:link

Thanks in advance,
 
Barrie North

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Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Lachlan Hunt

Barrie North wrote:

I need some help, what is the difference between:
 
table.module


Specificity: 0,0,1,1


and
.module


Specificity: 0,0,1,0


Is table.module just more specific or is there more going on?


The former will only select tables with the class name module.  The 
latter will select any element with the class name module.


e.g.
table class=module
p class=module
div class=module
em class=module

They will all be selected by .module, but only the table will be 
selected by table.module



Similar question between:
a.contentpagetitle:link


Specificity: 0,0,2,1

That will select
a href=# class=contentpagetitlelink/a


and
.contentpagetitle a:link


Specificity is the same, but will select differently:

p class=contentpagetitle
  a href=#link/a
/p

(The p element could be any ancestor element)

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[WSG] tableless layout stuff

2006-03-05 Thread Jack Pivac

Hi Everyone,

Few questions:

http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/newsite/shop/shop.php?product=accessories

I'm using white-space: pre; so dont have to br every line in the green 
description stuff... but if the window is resized it doesn't wrap AT 
ALL... is there a better way to do this?


And is there a way to put the green text up at the same height, and to 
the right of the title and image please?


So we have:

Title
Pic{description}
price
etc


Many Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [WSG] tableless layout stuff

2006-03-05 Thread Christian Montoya
On 3/5/06, Jack Pivac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 Few questions:

 http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/newsite/shop/shop.php?product=accessories

 I'm using white-space: pre; so dont have to br every line in the green
 description stuff... but if the window is resized it doesn't wrap AT
 ALL... is there a better way to do this?

Sorry, but you would have to use 'br' or a list. Pre wrapped text does
not break, that's how it behaves.

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