Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, I've always understood that Validation concerns the correctness of the syntax of the code, i.e. if the tags, etc. are properly coded. Well-formedness concerns the structure of the document, i.e. where in the document headings , paragraphs, etc go. Stuart . On Fri, April 27, 2007 10:09 am,

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread David Dorward
Stuart Foulstone wrote: Validation concerns the correctness of the syntax of the code, i.e. if the tags, etc. are properly coded. Well-formedness concerns the structure of the document, i.e. where in the document headings , paragraphs, etc go. You've got those backwards. -- David Dorward

Re: [WSG] Windows Vista Style Buttons

2007-04-28 Thread Breton Slivka
you can do it like this: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/menus/demo.html But you should know that this UI pattern is a usability/accessability disaster, and usually a symptom of poor content organization. I would encourage better organization in order to avoid these altogether. On

Re: [WSG] Windows Vista Style Buttons

2007-04-28 Thread Breton Slivka
Right, but now that he knows what they're called, he can use google to find a link such as this: http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/tutorial/ which has a fix for IE, or any of a number of other links on google, which also have fixes. Anyways, nothing wrong with IE users getting a

Re: [WSG] Will HTML5 be a purely presentational language?

2007-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Laura Carlson wrote: The following may be of interest to web standards folk who haven't been keeping up with the HTML Working Group and where HTML5 is headed: On 4/26/07, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [1]: There are people strongly arguing that HTML should be a purely presentational

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
No, really, people do validate their code - they use a validator. And, people do format their document with of headings, paragraphs etc., which if they do correctly is called well formed document. Having got a well formed document, they may well decide to create a Webpage by using a Markup

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Katrina wrote: David Hammond suggests that validity is not well-formedness, in that a document can be well-formed and not valid, but could also be !!! valid and not well-formed. http://www.webdevout.net/articles/validity-and-well-formedness#validity_well_formedness That article is actually

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, sorry, I was thinking of a well formed document in general, rather than specifically to a (X)HTML/XML markup document. I seem be at cross purposes. Stuart On Sat, April 28, 2007 6:45 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 28 Apr 2007, at 18:18:00, Stuart Foulstone wrote: And, people do format

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-28 Thread David Dorward
Lachlan Hunt wrote: That article is actually only talking about the cases where the W3C validator has known XML limitations. Which are removed in the current beta. http://validator-test.w3.org/ -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/