[WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread Elle Meredith
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au

[WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread Elle Meredith
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au

Re: [WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread James Jeffery
Depends on what you want to achieve. You can use the microformats hReview to provide product reviews, but i dont think there is anything specific for listing products. You could use XML, but only if you had real reason to, if your using XML for the sole purpose to add semantic meaning to your

[WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread Elle Meredith
Hi, Just wanted to ask when you build an e-commerce site, do you markup the products in any additional markup to give them more meaning or interoperability? and by that I mean microformats or XBL or just XML? Thanks, Elle http://designbyelle.com.au

Re: [WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:45 AM, James Jeffery wrote: Depends on what you want to achieve. You can use the microformats hReview to provide product reviews, but i dont think there is anything specific for listing products. You could use XML, but only if you had real reason to, if your using

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 23:09 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The only reasonable current assumption is that the users' defaults are exactly as they want and/or need them to be. Assuming otherwise with anything other than medium, 1em or 100% in body flowing through to main content unaltered could

Re: [WSG] Shop Products Markup

2007-08-07 Thread James Jeffery
I dont have any knowledge of Foxycart or Modx CMS im afraid. There are several thousand reasons to why someone would want to use XML, and as you already mentioned it does get used for Web Feeds and Web Services, only because by creating them in XML they are available on a number of different

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 19:23 (London time), on 4/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In the light of the pseudoclass and class having the same name and smart-alec browsers trying to correct perceived errors, could this then be a case of misinterpretation by IE6? Might it not be better to avoid using 'reserved' words

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread David Dorward
On 7 Aug 2007, at 11:37, Rick Lecoat wrote: However, I always get a nagging doubt whenever this issue is raised. Because whilst the argument for leaving default text sizing at 100% of the browser's default size, and for not making assumptions about the user's settings, is a good one, it does

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Rick, And I always wonder how many people, particularly the older generation who (without wanting to generalise too much) may not be quite as tech- savvy as their kids, actually have no idea that the default text size can even be adjusted, and possibly look at browser-default text and

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 7, 2007, at 4:01 AM, David Dorward wrote: This would be the older generation who tend towards having poor eyesight and needing larger font sizes? I've never seen a designer make body text bigger then the vendor default, only smaller and harder to read. clearleft dot com comes

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 12:13 (London time), on 7/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: does Jakob Nielsen's research count as creditable research? Absolutely, of course. I would like to draw your attention to his Alertbox column, where he repeatedly states that tiny text is one of the worst design mistakes. To quote from

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 12:01 (London time), on 7/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, I always get a nagging doubt whenever this issue is raised. Because whilst the argument for leaving default text sizing at 100% of the browser's default size, and for not making assumptions about the user's settings, is a

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread minim
It's all starting to sound to me like the only way to deal with all the ifs and maybes is to set up our own options - use the browser default size as a base and provide a switch for the user to set their own preferences for your site in case they haven't fathomed the mysteries of their

Re: [WSG] When to use image replacements?

2007-08-07 Thread Paul Collins
Hi Lee, I think Image replacement is probably best to use if you are developing for Mobiles; as these are becoming more relevant. You don't want people to have to scroll past 10 navigation images in their mobile browser everytime the page loads. The logo should be a graphic as you want people to

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/07 12:54 (GMT+0100) Rick Lecoat apparently typed: I just wondered how accurate the idea that 'type that is smaller than the user's specified browser default is too small to for that user to read' really is? Because we don't know that they /did/ specify it. The browser vendor

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/07 04:28 (GMT-0700) Tee G. Peng apparently typed: On Aug 7, 2007, at 4:01 AM, David Dorward wrote: I've never seen a designer make body text bigger then the vendor default, only smaller and harder to read. clearleft dot com comes to mind. That's a Clagnut-styled page. In a

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Andrew Cunningham
On Tue, August 7, 2007 11:24 pm, Felix Miata wrote: Given that most browsers in most environments nominally default to 12pt, and that more people prefer 12pt than any other size, any proposition that a site should be styled such that most text is not the user's default size is

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Rick Lecoat wrote: What I'm asking is: Do we /know/ that the majority of people have their default text set according to their requirements, or is it possible that a large number of those people (particularly those people who will most benefit from an accessibly designed site) are simply

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 14:24 (London time), on 7/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Actually there is no material difference in nominal browser default sizes. http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2006-January/057975.html Very interesting link, thanks Felix. -- Rick Lecoat

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 15:28 (London time), on 7/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A few years ago, I taught a basic HTML class to employees of a large *high-tech* company. Out of hundreds of students, only a handful had any idea they could change their default text, or -- note -- anything else that involved *using* the

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/07 07:28 (GMT-0700) Hassan Schroeder apparently typed: Claiming that the average user has configured any browser to her/his personal taste is simply wishful thinking. For any designer to think he can do better than the web browser makers who made the default defaults equal to what

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:01:04 +0100, David Dorward wrote: This would be the older generation who tend towards having poor eyesight and needing larger font sizes? Sorry, David, Your comment makes me smile. Being retired, I assist at a computer training lab where students of all adult ages

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Alastair Campbell
Rick Lecoat wrote: Do we /know/ that the majority of people have their default text set according to their requirements, or is it ... they don't know that there's any other way? From lots of usability testing (including with people with visual impairments), and training people (not on

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Rob Kirton
Alastair I contacted the Firefox development team prior to release 2 and suggested exactly what you have suggested, i.e. give the users an obvious prompt to re-size text i.e. in the default browser menu. It saves on both the users having to discover and remeber specialist key strokes and also

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Rob Kirton wrote: I was informed that they had a far better idea in the pipeline. I'm not holding my breath... Perhaps they were hinting at the full page zoom. See http://urltea.com/15zr?full-page-zoom (from http://planet.mozilla.org/ ) .Matthew Cruickshank http://docvert.org Convert

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/08 10:04 (GMT+1200) Matthew Cruickshank apparently typed: Rob Kirton wrote: I contacted the Firefox development team prior to release 2 and suggested exactly what you have suggested, i.e. give the users an obvious prompt to re-size text i.e. in the default browser menu. It saves