Paul,

Thanks for those references, i went and got one of the books today:

Geometry of Design - Studies in Proportion and Composition
by Kimberly Elam (2001)

I feel this is going to be a great benefit to me, knowing how to use
the Golden Number when designing. I do a lot of club fliers and CD
Covers so maybe it will help me with those. All these years designing
and i didn't know about PHI.

Thanks again, i had to nag my girlfriend for the £10.45 (im broke atm)
and took me over an hour to find the copy they had at 'Waterstones'
(local book store)

James

On Nov 2, 2007 12:20 AM, Paul Minty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WSG,
>
> 'Universal Principles of Design' states that the Golden Ration is also
> known as: golden mean; golden number; golden section, golden proportion,
> divine proportion and sectio aurea.
>
> It is an anceint (dating back to the classical greeks) principle of
> geometry. It may be an early attempt to codify a cognitive phenomenon or
> a simple tradition. The Fibonacci Sequence can converge to a golden
> mean.
>
> The ratio is 0.618.
>
> For a comprehensive discussion of proportions that include the golden
> mean, see 'Geometry of Design - Studies in Proportion and Composition'
> by Kimberly Elam (2001).
>
> This also presents a case that the general population prefers designs
> based on some geometric proportions.
>
> Another reference is: 'Grids, the structure of graphic design' by Andre
> Jute (1996).
>
> The YUI Grids patterns do not have any great focus on a geometrical
> proportion. Our Art Director decided that we would have a strong
> emphasis on classic proportions as part of our house style. Therefore we
> modified the YUI grids CSS files to change the default proportions to
> the ones that our Art Director wants to use on a regular basis. This
> improves our quality and speed on most jobs.
>
> It also helps wire-framing as we use a particular proportion to give
> consistency and attractiveness to our wire-frames.
>
> Cheers
> Paul
>
>
> Paul Minty Director
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of David Laakso
> Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 12:01 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] PHI and YUI Grids
>
> James Jeffery wrote:
> > Hmmm interesting i might take a look at it.
> >
> > I would love to know more about YUI Grids and the 'Golden Mean'.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
>
> FWIW, the "Golden Mean" is a matter of philosophy.  I believe the search
> string you seek is "Golden Ratio."
>
> Best,
>
> ~dL
>
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