[WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi, I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. I cannot apply the usual remedy (floating the paragraph) as I need any element next to the floated offender to be indented. Hence the paragraph has a left margin which cannot be zero. I've tried all the usual IE6 tricks

Re: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Add left padding to the paragraph intead? - Original Message - From: Jens-Uwe Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim Hi, I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel

RE: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Thomas, I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. Add left padding to the paragraph intead? Unfortunately that won't work. My aim is to have all paragraphs aligned to the left, even if they start below the year box. That's why I need to flow the year box but not

[WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Hello all, I've been wondering about this for a while, just hesitated to ask (as it could be a stupid question). I've always been using p within olli (example, see state list on www.web-designers-australia.com) However, I see many people use a list without p tags, and style the text within

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
This email was sent before an update of the site and the old version did not contain a list on the front-page (just incase someone was wondering;-) It's now updated, and has the example list on the front-page. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Ben Buchanan
Hi, You don't need the p inside the li (although it's ok to put on in there it's not required). It's fine to just style the li. So unless you have a specific need for the extra tag I'd leave it out. cheers, Ben On 11/02/2008, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I've been

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi Taco, In the case of the example you provided I'd say definitely no need for the nested p tag. The li tags are enough to describe the content inside them - they are items in a list. I don't see how it is a duplicate style of the p tag either, in my experience it is good practice to style

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jermayn Parker
What if you need to have 'two' paragraphs? would it not make more sense than to style a br??? On Feb 11, 2008 12:06 PM, Ben Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You don't need the p inside the li (although it's ok to put on in there it's not required). It's fine to just style the li. So

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi Tim, What I mean by duplicate style is that if I assigned color: red, font-size: 0.8em to the p tag, I will have to assign the same style to my li tags to make sure they look the same. OK, general consensus so far is, it's ok to put it in, but preferred to leave them out and style the li

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
If you have two paragraphs you might want to reconsider the use of a list. Jermayn Parker wrote: What if you need to have 'two' paragraphs? would it not make more sense than to style a br??? On Feb 11, 2008 12:06 PM, Ben Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You don't need the p inside

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread John Faulds
I'd say the only time you need to use paragraphs inside list items is when a list item's content is made up of more than one paragraph. On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:13:54 +1000, Tim MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Taco, In the case of the example you provided I'd say definitely no need for

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi, OK, but a paragraph is a paragraph, right? So why not mark it up as one (even if it's only one)? I think from the responses it appears that there is no wrong or right, just a personal preference ;-) In my example (http://www.web-designers-australia.com/) the states are probably not a

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread John Faulds
If you have two paragraphs you might want to reconsider the use of a list. I don't agree. Consider as an example a 'list' of services - it may take more than one paragraph to adequately describe each service, but it is still a list. -- Tyssen Design http://www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph:

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
I think he is simply saying style the li element... I might point out also that it does go against the doctrine of standards, if you will ;), to use superfluous markup. Taco Fleur wrote: Not sure if I fully understand, I think you mean; Assign the paragraph style to a HTML tag that is

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jackie Reid
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Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Craig Merriman
Hi Taco, I think it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. In the example you showed, a p element might not have provided much use. If you wanted to avoid using the same style for all LI elements, then maybe defining and applying class(es) to each li that differed would work. It

Re: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS

2008-02-10 Thread dwain
On 2/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to. I have IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things different with her IE. The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up all in a

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread John Faulds
If the lists have a number of levels like Services Web Site Development Graphics SEO and more About Us Me You Someone else I'm not talking about presenting a list of links; I'm talking about presenting the actual content on a page. From your example above, it's

Re: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS

2008-02-10 Thread Bruce
On xp windows I see the thumbs half in the white area rest in right brown.in ie7 and firefox Moving .gallerycontainer position to less 200? if you want them in white and changing .thumbnail:hover SPAN to suit? Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Adam Martin
the flaw in this approach is the potential for adding divs for styling purposes only which is hardly ever necessary. Certainly not in the scenario you have given. I advocate styling the elements directly rather than bloating the code more than you need too. Cheers Adam On Feb 11, 2008 2:59 PM,

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread John Faulds
Assign the paragraph style to a HTML tag that is surrounding all other tags? If so, I would not feel comfortable with that. Why not? If this is your HTML: div class=content psome text/p ul lisome text/li /ul /div This .content { color: red; font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.5 } makes more

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
John Faulds wrote: If you have two paragraphs you might want to reconsider the use of a list. I don't agree. Consider as an example a 'list' of services - it may take more than one paragraph to adequately describe each service, but it is still a list. in such a situation i would consider

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
In this particular instance I would say your approach is wrong because the p servers no purpose. The text is simply a link, if it were actually a paragraph of text then there might be a call for it, however even then I'm not certain. So in this case though its definitely superfluous, IMHO.

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread John Faulds
If you apply the style to the container, then you don't need to assign styles individually to different elements (except where you want them to be different). On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:22:52 +1000, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tim, What I mean by duplicate style is that if I

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Not sure if I fully understand, I think you mean; Assign the paragraph style to a HTML tag that is surrounding all other tags? If so, I would not feel comfortable with that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Faulds Sent: Monday, 11

[WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS

2008-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to. I have IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things different with her IE. The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up all in a row but are not. I put the code I am using inside the

RE: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Why not? If this is your HTML: I would not do it because you'll end up with having to override styles, it's not clear to other developers who come in on the project, it becomes a mess. But that might be personal preference again ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Casey Farrell
I'm not talking about presenting a list of links; I'm talking about presenting the actual content on a page. From your example above, it's quite feasible that you'd just have one page for Services and one for About Us. If you present * Web Site Development * Graphics * SEO In the case

Re: [WSG] use of p in li

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Thomassen
The definition lists aren't soly for defining a term. The W3C specs gives an example usage of DL to marking up dialouges. I see the defintion lists as a good option when the list consists of two parts, a headline and a description. - Original Message - From: John Faulds [EMAIL