Re: [WSG] hello
Hi, Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking, etc. The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss feeds etc. I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which incorporate these technologies. Stuart On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc? Kat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
that is by far the most profound statement ive heard regarding web 2.0 totally spot on. funny how simple things become when you look at it that way... love your work. On 2/13/08, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking, etc. The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss feeds etc. I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which incorporate these technologies. Stuart On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc? Kat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] hello
I suggest a definition to web 2.0: The lysergic side of Internet. Why? As Timothy Leary, he defined a thought. As Beatles on Seargent Peppers As Bush on War against terror Is impossible to describe. Genau Jr Midiaweb Internet De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Richard Pendergast Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de fevereiro de 2008 09:05 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] hello that is by far the most profound statement ive heard regarding web 2.0 totally spot on. funny how simple things become when you look at it that way... love your work. On 2/13/08, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking, etc. The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss feeds etc. I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which incorporate these technologies. Stuart On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc? Kat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
Could somebody enlighten me as to what any of these irrelevant ramblings about a marketing buzzphrase have to do with Web Standards? NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
Nicely said. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:38:14 To:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] hello Could somebody enlighten me as to what any of these irrelevant ramblings about a marketing buzzphrase have to do with Web Standards? NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
Very ironic. On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: ... NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
touch. Stuart Foulstone wrote: Very ironic. On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: ... NickFitz in "about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel" mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] tableless forms !!!
Hi Naveen
Options are, as discussed, fieldsets and labels to assist with positioning.
There is nothing illegal about using form elements in a table - some see it
as the widget labels being in the th and the actual widgets being in
the td. For a quick, single fieldset form, it's a useful layout especially
if time is of the essence. You could see it as a one row table but with two
columns, if that makes sense.
Does have some major drawbacks in that you can't easily relayout the form for
other uses using CSS. E.g in some instances I've used the same form markup
and presented in different ways using CSS. Definition lists really help out
there.
1. Fieldsets, legends, labels and associated form widgets. If you want to take
the legends out for whatever reason, then do legendspanmy
legend/span/legend and use legend span {position : absolute;
left : -9000px;} or similar in CSS.
Use fieldsets as block level elements to position them within the form.
2. As #1 but use a definition list inside each fieldset. Form labels go in the
dt, widgets in the dd. You can float the dt and dd to get a presentation
similar to your classic '97 grid layout with the added flexibility of being
able to re - layout it in another way.
You would need to use the for attribute to link labels with widgets as you
cannot, of course, wrap the widgets in the label
I've used DL's quite a bit and it works well especially when the client is apt
to change their mind and they want the form labels above the widgets instead
of to the left. You can just turn off the dt/dd float in that case.
If you have buttons at the bottom of a form, use a fieldset to contain those
and set its clear to both to clear any floated elements above.
HTH
James
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:01:26 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi ,
Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build a form without
tables in w3c standards.
I would really appreciate if you can provide a good referral link. J
Thanks a ton in advance..
Thanking you
Naveen Bhaskar
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Re: [WSG] hello
OK enough. Lets stay on topic before we irritate the masses! Russ List-get-back-on-topic-person *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
James Ellis wrote: and remember that Wine is an emulation layer, it may not give the same results as virtualising Windows (which is a standard Windows install). It depends on how good the emulation is. For instance, before using virtualisation to test IE in XP, I was using Wine and ies4linux and not getting very good Javascript results. Cheers James Actually, Wine is not emulation. [1] WINE = Wine is not an emulator. Chris 1: http://www.winehq.org/site/myths *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie
-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrew WC Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Feb 13, 2008 11:06 PM
Subject: navaigation list rendered bad in ie
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Hi WSG,
I'm currently working on a web-site and I've bumped my head on IE rendering
things in its own weird way.
Its adding extra something to my list elements but I've stressed my brain
trying to solve it.
Here's an image to the problem
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5567/iefirefoxlistcb1.jpg
Here's a link to the page
http://dutchakscrap.com/about.html
Heres the html and css
div class=navigation
ul
lia href=home.htmlHome/a/li
lia class=active href=about.htmlAbout us/a/li
lia href=services.htmlProducts and Services/a/li
lia href=pop_can_program.htmlPop Can Fundraising Program/a/li
lia href=get_informed.htmlGet Informed/a/li
/ul
/div!-- navigation --
/*
Navigation-
*/
div.navigation { float: right; background: rgb(0,0,0); padding: 0px 30px;
width: 240px; }
div.navigation ul { list-style-type: none; padding: 8px 0px; margin: 0px; }
div.navigation li { padding: 1px; margin: 1px; }
div.navigation a { display: block; font-size: 13px; padding: 10px; margin:
0px; text-decoration: none;}
div.navigation a:hover { background: rgb(15,15,15); }
div.navigation a.active { background: rgb(15,15,15); color:
rgb(240,240,240);}
Help WSG your my only hope! *hologram flickers off*
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RE: [WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie
On Behalf Of Andrew WC Brown
Here's an image to the problem
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5567/iefirefoxlistcb1.jpg
Here's a link to the page
http://dutchakscrap.com/about.html
Hi Andrew,
Try this:
div.navigation a {zoom:1;}
As a side note, I don't see a need for that DIV, you could go with the UL
alone.
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Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
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Re: [WSG] hello
This is a much better and interesting description of web 2.0. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE if less technical... Joe On Feb 12 2008, at 13:14, russ - maxdesign wrote: Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web 2.0: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is- web-20.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2 A good slide show on the topic: http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/ Or, sit down with some popcorn and watch a web 2.0 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LzQIUANnHc HTH Russ on 12/2/08 11:07 PM, Gitanjali at wrote: Hello all! Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
