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[WSG] is this menu accessible to screen reader and js off?

2008-03-02 Thread tee
I am learning jquery, needed some practise so I decided  to try to  
integrate this flyout menu to Modx CMS, and I tested the menu from  
Firefox with JS off , I can see the menu working fine, but I am  
skeptical because I thought if it's controlled by JS it shouldn't be  
working, however Matt from onegeek told me that JavaScript accesses  
the DOM, and that every
element in the page is an Object,  therefor JS can get to it and  
access it's functions and properties. I am still trying to grasp the  
concept.


http://pfirsichmelba.de/artikel-scripts/suckerfish-accessible.html

http://pfirsichmelba.de/artikel-scripts/dropdown/horizontal.html

Also, this site using mootool and still accessible when the js is off.

http://www.hotel-oxford.ro/

Thank you!

tee


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Re: [WSG] Experience with Adobe Contribute

2008-03-02 Thread Martin Heiden
Elizabeth,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 11:08:47 PM, you wrote:

ES I understand that Contribute would allow them to make changes to content
ES without messing with the coding/navigation.  Does anyone have experience
ES with this product?  Is it possible/easy to set up to maintain
ES standards-compliance?

I once did some testing with Contribute 1.0 and didn't experience any
problems with standard conformance. Contribute is a cut down
Dreamweaver which only allows to change content in
Dreamweaver-Templates. Adobe lately put a lot of work into
Dreamweaver to make at easy to develop standards-based sites, so I
guess that you won't have any problems if you change the templates.

regards

  Martin.



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Re: [WSG] Experience with Adobe Contribute

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Dodson
Hi,

The latest version of Contribute (CS3) is not actually that bad.  We use it
all the time for our clients at work and generally the feedback is quite
good.  Contribute allows you to edit the text on a page just like you would
with something like Word or Dreamweaver. You can also set it to create
rollbacks so if anything gets messed up you can always undo what you've
done.

My recommendation would be for you to download the 30 day trial from Adobes
website and have a play with it yourself.  You could also ask your client to
download it and have a play to see if it meets their needs before you pay
for a license.

With regards to standards, it will edit any site but if the site you have
created is standards compliant then it will output in a compliant way as
well (it might not be semantic or the best way to do something but it will
validate!).  With creating new pages, you can either create a HTML template
with which they can use for new pages, or they can simply copy an existing
page and just edit the text.  This is normally fine for day-to-day use.

As I say, the best thing to do is to download the trial and give it a go and
see if it meets your needs.

Cheers,

Ben
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On 02/03/2008, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elizabeth,

 Saturday, March 1, 2008, 11:08:47 PM, you wrote:

 ES I understand that Contribute would allow them to make changes to
 content
 ES without messing with the coding/navigation.  Does anyone have
 experience
 ES with this product?  Is it possible/easy to set up to maintain
 ES standards-compliance?

 I once did some testing with Contribute 1.0 and didn't experience any
 problems with standard conformance. Contribute is a cut down
 Dreamweaver which only allows to change content in
 Dreamweaver-Templates. Adobe lately put a lot of work into
 Dreamweaver to make at easy to develop standards-based sites, so I
 guess that you won't have any problems if you change the templates.

 regards


   Martin.




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Re: [WSG] Experience with Adobe Contribute

2008-03-02 Thread Rob Crowther

Elizabeth Spiegel wrote:

I understand that Contribute would allow them to make changes to content
without messing with the coding/navigation.  Does anyone have experience
with this product?  Is it possible/easy to set up to maintain
standards-compliance?

You can limit the areas they can edit by using Dreamweaver templates, 
and there are a number of options within Contribute where you force 
standards compliance, but some strange stuff will still happen.  For 
instance, if one of your users decides they want a nice, bright red 
message in the middle of their copy it achieves this by adding a style 
section in the head of the document.  The style section will not be 
automatically removed if the red text is deleted.


As far as I'm aware, though I may be wrong - this was Contribute 3 and I 
didn't look in too much detail, you can't force users to only use styles 
out of your existing stylesheets.


Rob


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Re: [WSG] Experience with Adobe Contribute

2008-03-02 Thread Ben Dodson
Rob Crowther wrote:
 As far as I'm aware, though I may be wrong - this was Contribute 3 and I
 didn't look in too much detail, you can't force users to only use styles
 out of your existing stylesheets.

In Contribute CS3 you can set it up so that they can only use styles from a
specific style sheet.  You can also set it so that they can't control font
size, colours, etc, etc.  We do this for all of our clients as when we
didn't they managed to break their websites within about 30 minutes!

Ben

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On 02/03/2008, Rob Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elizabeth Spiegel wrote:
  I understand that Contribute would allow them to make changes to content

  without messing with the coding/navigation.  Does anyone have experience

  with this product?  Is it possible/easy to set up to maintain

  standards-compliance?
 
 You can limit the areas they can edit by using Dreamweaver templates,
 and there are a number of options within Contribute where you force
 standards compliance, but some strange stuff will still happen.  For
 instance, if one of your users decides they want a nice, bright red
 message in the middle of their copy it achieves this by adding a style
 section in the head of the document.  The style section will not be
 automatically removed if the red text is deleted.

 As far as I'm aware, though I may be wrong - this was Contribute 3 and I
 didn't look in too much detail, you can't force users to only use styles
 out of your existing stylesheets.


 Rob



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