RE: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Anat Katz

and don't use background image, some email browsers won't render it.
 

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in regards to html emails..
use tables for structure.
 


 Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2008 2:53:11 pm 


Hi...

anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
I have a div with background image and text above that... the background 
image is not displaying :-(

help help
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Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Naveen Bhaskar
Structure is fine... but I am worried about the background images since
the text is localized I cant use an image with text . I have to use
background image and text about that...

any solution?


regards
navii

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  in regards to html emails..
 use tables for structure.



  Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2008 2:53:11 pm 

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 anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
 I have a div with background image and text above that... the
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[WSG] my apologies

2008-03-20 Thread dwain
i apologize to the group for the telecommunications post.  i thought that i
saw my congressional senator's address in the to: space.
humbly apologetic,
dwain

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Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Denis Arkhipov
Sorry, but i think you must google it by yourself.
Your question is not in subject of that subscribe.
btw lurk for files cid in e-mail attachment.


 Hi...

 anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
 I have a div with background image and text above that... the
 background image is not displaying :-(

 help help
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Re: [WSG] my apologies

2008-03-20 Thread Mark Harris

dwain wrote:

i apologize to the group for the telecommunications post.  i thought that i
saw my congressional senator's address in the to: space.
humbly apologetic,
dwain


Understood

Good letter, though  ;-)

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RE: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi Naveen,

Unfortunately, HTML emails offer very little support for background images. 
Outlook 2007 doesn’t render them at all, I think some of the major webmail 
clients do, but gmail and Windows Live mail do not. It is very frustrating but 
the more you do it and realize what is possible you know where you can be 
creative, etc. All text has to be on flat background colours (background 
colours are fine). Think in terms of tables, and think HTML 1.0, font face 
tags and all. It goes against everything we talk about on this list, but its 
just the way it is.

Visit this link: 
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_1.html Ive 
printed it out and keep a copy by my desk. If it’s not too late change the 
design, if all else fails then take the hit and make it one (or a few) huge 
images (text and all). It’s dirty, but you’ll get it out the door and you’ll 
know for next time.

Cheers,

Tim

 

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

 

im no expert in html emails but of the ones i do get how many actually use 
background images? 

 

I do not think html emails actually should use background images.

 



 Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2008 3:11:48 pm 


Structure is fine... but I am worried about the background images since the 
text is localized I cant use an image with text . I have to use background 
image and text about that...

any solution?


regards
navii

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

in regards to html emails..

use tables for structure.

 



 Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2008 2:53:11 pm 


Hi...

anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
I have a div with background image and text above that... the background 
image is not displaying :-(

help help
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Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Elankeeran / இளங்கீரன் V
Your  image path should be absolute path i.e,
http://www.urwebsitename.com/images/background.gif

it will work in the email template

-Elankeeran V


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 I have a div with background image and text above that... the
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Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Chris Wharton
Hi Navii,

I hate to say it but you will get inconsistencies using background
images in HTML email.  They will more than likely work in Outlook but
gmail, hotmail and google will do stange things.  Where possible use
background colours and not images, you can still be creative within
these parameters though.

Cheers

CW

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 Your  image path should be absolute path i.e,
 http://www.urwebsitename.com/images/background.gif

 it will work in the email template

 -Elankeeran V


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  Hi...
 
  anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
  I have a div with background image and text above that... the
 background image is not displaying :-(
 
  help help
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[WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Laert Jansen
Hello everyone!

Well, I looking for some help. I don´t know how to create more than one a
a:hover

I have my css here

a {
color: #FFF;
text-decoration:none;

}

a:hover {
color:#FFF;
text-decoration:underline;
}

and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover

div class=menu
ul
liBittencourt Lopes/li
lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
lispanAgency./spana
href=http://www.220i.com.br;
target=_blank220i/a/li
lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
/ul
/div

How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?

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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Max A. Shpack
Hi Laert

This works:

a.someclass:hover {}

and then apply class to the link.

Max.

2008/3/20, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello everyone!

 Well, I looking for some help. I don´t know how to create more than one a
 a:hover

 I have my css here

 a {
 color: #FFF;
 text-decoration:none;

 }

 a:hover {
 color:#FFF;
  text-decoration:underline;
 }

 and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover

 div class=menu
 ul
 liBittencourt Lopes/li
  lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
 lispanAgency./spana href=http://www.220i.com.br;
 target=_blank220i/a/li
  lia
 href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; target=_blank
 title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
  /ul
 /div

 How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?

 Thanks a lot
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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Martin Heiden
Olá!

on Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 15:38 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:

 and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover

 div class=menu
 ul
 liBittencourt Lopes/li
 lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
 lispanAgency./spana
 href=http://www.220i.com.br;
target=_blank220i/a/li
 lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
 target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
 /ul
 /div

 How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?

If this hover should apply to all links under div.menu try:

div.menu a:hover {}

or give the link a class and define:

a.newclass:hover {}

regards

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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Laert Jansen
Olá! :)

I´m trying this:

a.launch:hover {
color:#FF7400;
text-decoration:underline;
}


and html

li class=launcha href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li

but is not working...Where´s my mistake?

Thanks a lot!




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wrote:

 Olá!

 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 15:38 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:

  and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover

  div class=menu
  ul
  liBittencourt Lopes/li
  lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
  lispanAgency./spana
  href=http://www.220i.com.br;
 target=_blank220i/a/li
  lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
  target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
  /ul
  /div

  How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?

 If this hover should apply to all links under div.menu try:

 div.menu a:hover {}

 or give the link a class and define:

 a.newclass:hover {}

 regards

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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Gregorio Espadas
The class must be applied to the anchor a, not li.

Gregorio Espadas

gespadas [at] gmail [dot] com


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Olá! :)

 I´m trying this:

 a.launch:hover {
 color:#FF7400;
 text-decoration:underline;
 }


 and html

 li class=launcha href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
 target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li

 but is not working...Where´s my mistake?

 Thanks a lot!





 On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Olá!
 
  on Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 15:38 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
 
   and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover
 
   div class=menu
   ul
   liBittencourt Lopes/li
   lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
   lispanAgency./spana
   href=http://www.220i.com.br;
  target=_blank220i/a/li
   lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
   target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
   /ul
   /div
 
   How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?
 
  If this hover should apply to all links under div.menu try:
 
  div.menu a:hover {}
 
  or give the link a class and define:
 
  a.newclass:hover {}
 
  regards
 
   Martin
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Laert Jansen
I found it.

lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; target=_blank
title=Launch *class=launch*

Thanks a lot Max and Martin for the help!

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Olá! :)

 I´m trying this:

 a.launch:hover {
 color:#FF7400;
 text-decoration:underline;
 }


 and html

 li class=launcha href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
 target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li

 but is not working...Where´s my mistake?

 Thanks a lot!




 On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Olá!
 
  on Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 15:38 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
 
   and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover
 
   div class=menu
   ul
   liBittencourt Lopes/li
   lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
   lispanAgency./spana
   href=http://www.220i.com.br;
  target=_blank220i/a/li
   lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
   target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
   /ul
   /div
 
   How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?
 
  If this hover should apply to all links under div.menu try:
 
  div.menu a:hover {}
 
  or give the link a class and define:
 
  a.newclass:hover {}
 
  regards
 
   Martin
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Peter Goddard
Try:

 

lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; target=_blank 
title=Launch class=launchemLaunch/em/a/li

 

or

 

in stylesheet

 

li.launch a:hover

 

HTH

 

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Developer/Programmer

PSI Global Ltd, Bowburn, Durham DH6 5AD, UK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laert Jansen
Sent: 20 March 2008 15:35
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] a a:hover

 

Olá! :)

I´m trying this: 

a.launch:hover {
color:#FF7400;
text-decoration:underline;
}


and html

li class=launcha href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; 
target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li

but is not working...Where´s my mistake? 

Thanks a lot!





On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Olá!


on Thursday, March 20, 2008 at 15:38 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:

 and the html where the word launch should have another a a:hover

 div class=menu
 ul
 liBittencourt Lopes/li
 lispanRole./spanWebsite design/li
 lispanAgency./spana
 href=http://www.220i.com.br;
target=_blank220i/a/li
 lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/;
 target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li
 /ul
 /div

 How do I apply a different a ahover to this link?

If this hover should apply to all links under div.menu try:

div.menu a:hover {}

or give the link a class and define:

a.newclass:hover {}

regards

 Martin








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RE: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi,

 

When appending the class name to the element as you did in:

 

a.launch:hover

 

the class *must* be in the element tag that you specified. You put the
class=launch in the li element, not the a element. To solve it, either
change your CSS to:

 

li.launch a:hover

 

*or* change your HTML to:

 

lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; class=launch
target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li



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Re: [WSG] background images in HTML emails..

2008-03-20 Thread Rochester oliveira
When i need it, i use the background attribute (argh!)

table background=http://address;

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2008/3/20, Chris Wharton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Navii,

  I hate to say it but you will get inconsistencies using background
  images in HTML email.  They will more than likely work in Outlook but
  gmail, hotmail and google will do stange things.  Where possible use
  background colours and not images, you can still be creative within
  these parameters though.

  Cheers


  CW


  On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Elankeeran / இளங்கீரன் V
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Your  image path should be absolute path i.e,
   http://www.urwebsitename.com/images/background.gif
  
   it will work in the email template
  
   -Elankeeran V
  
  
   On 3/20/08, Naveen Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi...
   
anybody can tell me.. how to use background images  in html emails.
I have a div with background image and text above that... the
   background image is not displaying :-(
   
help help
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Re: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Laert Jansen
I don´t know why is it happening but the hover is ok, working with all the
links but the link is working only in one link. Here´s the style

li.launch a:link{
color:#CDEB8B;
}


li.launch a:hover{
color:#CDEB8B;
text-decoration:underline;
}

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Kepler Gelotte 
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  Hi,



 When appending the class name to the element as you did in:



 a.launch:hover



 the class **must** be in the element tag that you specified. You put the
 class=launch in the li element, not the a element. To solve it, either
 change your CSS to:



 li.launch a:hover



 **or** change your HTML to:



 lia href=http://www.bittencourtlopes.com.br/; class=launch
 target=_blank title=LaunchemLaunch/em/a/li

  Best regards,

 *Kepler Gelotte*

 Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.

 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854

 www.neighborwebmaster.com

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Re: [WSG] Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

2008-03-20 Thread Keryx Web

tee skrev:


I thought fieldset (with legend) are used only for form elements, I am 
curious why you would used it in your right column's content.




A. It is valid. You may use it according to the DTD.

B. It is being used for grouping of content.

C. I am not a minimalist in interpreting specs. It was developed for 
forms, but I have not seen that you SHOULD NOT use it outside of forms, 
i.e. it is not verboten.


D. It works and has no negative effects that I am aware of.

E. I wanted the effect...


Lars Gunter


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[WSG] META content-lang. declared but showing up different (for one person reporting)

2008-03-20 Thread Kristine Cummins
I launched a new site a few days ago and received a report that the site is
showing in another language and/or foreign characters even though meta
http-equiv=content-language content=en / is declared in the HEAD.
The person reporting is using Safari (v. unknown) and I think on a Mac (not
sure if this info is applicable). is an XHTML site and validated as such.

Example PDF printscreen of issue:
http://www.artscouncilnapavalley.org/lang_issue.pdf

Website is:
http://www.artscouncilnapavalley.org 

Thoughts appreciated - Thank you,
Kristine


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Re: [WSG] META content-lang. declared but showing up different (for one person reporting)

2008-03-20 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Kristine Cummins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I launched a new site a few days ago and received a report that the site is
 showing in another language and/or foreign characters even though meta
 http-equiv=content-language content=en / is declared in the HEAD.

That might be useful to search engines for deciding what language your
content is in, but I don't think any browsers pay attention to
language  hints.


 The person reporting is using Safari (v. unknown) and I think on a Mac (not
 sure if this info is applicable). is an XHTML site and validated as such.

On my Mac using Safari 3.0.4 the site displays just fine.


  Thoughts appreciated - Thank you,

Without any more information, I'd guess the problem is specific to
that person's computer. It could be that the font specification of
palatino linotype is causing Safari to make some weird substitution
that's not working out, but that'd be a bug. Well, there's a bug
somewhere...

Good luck

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Re: [WSG] META content-lang. declared but showing up different (for one person reporting)

2008-03-20 Thread Andrew Maben


On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Kristine Cummins wrote:


showing in another language and/or foreign characters...


I don't know if this is applicable, but I was opening/closing fonts  
on my Mac the other day to work on a project in Illustrator - to my  
dismay, I found sections of various sites (Craigslist, particularly)  
were showing up in exactly the same manner.  Turned out that one of  
the Symbol fonts was simply named Helvetica (or whatever it may have  
been) and Safari was grabbing the Symbol rather than the alphabet  
font. The problem also showed in some TextEdit  
docs..


If this is an isolated incident, I'd lay odds that its a system  
configuration issue that has nothing to do with your site - which,  
incidentally, looks just fine on this Mac.


Andrew







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[WSG] Hanging indents

2008-03-20 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel
Hi all

I'm developing a site for a non-profit organisation and one page is their
constitution. I'm trying to get the clauses to appear with a hanging indent
as they currently do in the word version:
http://www.dra.org.au/files/QTI5QDJCKU/DRA-Constitution-Amended-10Feb07%20(6
7%20KB).doc.  I thought I'd achieved it using a float - see
www.spiegelweb.com.au/test/dra/constitution_float.html - then looked at it
in IE 6 and started tearing my hair out.  

I then tried a different approach using white-space: pre;
www.spiegelweb.com.au/test/dra/constitution.html. I don't like this as it
relies on multiple spaces and I suspect that it will stop lining up as soon
as fonts other than the default are used.

Suggestions anyone?  (Note that I can't change the numbering scheme.)

Elizabeth Spiegel
Web editing
 
0409 986 158
GPO Box 729, Hobart TAS 7001
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Re: [WSG] Hanging indents

2008-03-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

Hi Elizabeth,


I'm trying to get the clauses to appear with a hanging indent


Try adding a div to the body of content you want this treatment in (saving 
on a lot of p.classes and extraneous markup), then put this in the CSS.


div.clauses p {
 margin-left : 50px;
 text-indent : -40px;
}

The margin will create a nice gap for the indents, the neg margin should 
make what you want, first line only. The difference in measurement keep the 
indent from hitting the wall so to speak, but this could also be 
accomplished by adding padding to the div.


div.clauses {
 padding : 10px;
}

div.clauses p {
 margin-left : 40px;
 text-indent : -40px;
}

Someone might say it's a job for an ordered list, but the complex numbers 
make that impossible, moreover, these items are numbered, this is true, but 
not really ordered.



in IE 6 and started tearing my hair out.


Well, we can't have that so I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Mike Cherim
http://green-beast.com




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RE: [WSG] a a:hover

2008-03-20 Thread Kepler Gelotte
*  I don´t know why is it happening but the hover is ok, working with
all the links but the link is working only in one link. Here´s the style



Make sure you are also setting “:visited” as well:

 


li.launch a:link{
color:#CDEB8B;
}

li.launch a:visited{
color:#CDEB8B;
}


li.launch a:hover{
color:#CDEB8B;
text-decoration:underline;
}

 

If that doesn’t work, make sure you have the class=”launch” on all list
elements that you want the color applied to.

 

Hope that helps.

Best regards,

Kepler Gelotte

Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.

156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854

 http://www.neighborwebmaster.com www.neighborwebmaster.com

phone/fax: (732) 302-0904

 



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