Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Horowitz
I will admit to being surprised that people aren't screaming don't use 
frames.


I guess that will by my first question, why are you using frames. 


Michael Horowitz
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Anat Katz wrote:
 
thanks for that Stuart.


We have already implemented frame titles, we were actually referring to the 
page titles (found within the HEAD) of the html that makes up the page within 
the frame.  If these were left blank would it cause a problem???

Frame:

 
page.html:


???


Cheers,

Anat

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers


Hi,

You might find the following link useful:

See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/

Stuart

On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote:
  

Hi team,

Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point of
view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that were build /called
by the frameset.
Is there any value for screen reader's users?
I.e.: the page that contains the main content, should have a specific
/relevant page title? Do screen readers read the page title of each one of
the pages of the frameset? Or do they only read the one frameset page
title?
Example: "Recipes" page title as opposed to "main content" page title.
(please note I am not referring to the titles of the frames in the
frameset, see example below)


Cheers,
Anat


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Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-02 Thread dwain
On 4/2/08, Anat Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> ???
>
> this is what your visitor would see in the title bar of the browser or
nothing if you left it blank.  using keywords in your title helps with seo.
dwain


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"The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
for his inner impulse must find suitable expression."  Kandinsky


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RE: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-02 Thread Anat Katz
 
thanks for that Stuart.

We have already implemented frame titles, we were actually referring to the 
page titles (found within the HEAD) of the html that makes up the page within 
the frame.  If these were left blank would it cause a problem???

Frame:

 
page.html:

???


Cheers,

Anat

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Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone
Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 8:43 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers


Hi,

You might find the following link useful:

See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/

Stuart

On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point of
> view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that were build /called
> by the frameset.
> Is there any value for screen reader's users?
> I.e.: the page that contains the main content, should have a specific
> /relevant page title? Do screen readers read the page title of each one of
> the pages of the frameset? Or do they only read the one frameset page
> title?
> Example: "Recipes" page title as opposed to "main content" page title.
> (please note I am not referring to the titles of the frames in the
> frameset, see example below)
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Anat
>
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[WSG] Design Coding Video

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Vogt
Hello everybody.

I just received this link from another mailinglist I read, which is a
vieo with a song ob how to to create a correct webpage. Here is the
link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg

I wonder, how much the information is correct in the song. In my
oppinion a very entertaining way to get the information across ;-)

Hope this video is not old news vor everybody.


Greetings,
Michael Vogt


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Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers....

2008-04-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi,

You might find the following link useful:

See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/

Stuart

On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point of
> view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that were build /called
> by the frameset.
> Is there any value for screen reader's users?
> I.e.: the page that contains the main content, should have a specific
> /relevant page title? Do screen readers read the page title of each one of
> the pages of the frameset? Or do they only read the one frameset page
> title?
> Example: "Recipes" page title as opposed to "main content" page title.
> (please note I am not referring to the titles of the frames in the
> frameset, see example below)
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Anat
>
>
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