Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Joe Chiang
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and commenting. After reading through the responses to my original post, I'm trying to frame a conclusion here. But first, a little website background: - target audience don't have much computer background - majority of target audience use IE 6/7 -

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread tee
On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Joe Chiang wrote: Perhaps, implement something like 'sticky sidebar' or 'position fixed' to present the 'Return to top' link rather than adding it after each section is another option I look favourably at. Obviously, I need to work out on IE6 for this.

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread David Dorward
Robin Shi wrote: In my experience, position: fixed seems not work with IE. It is supported by IE7. As a concept, however, it is pretty much incompatible with horizontal navigation bars plus links with fragment identifiers. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joe Chiang wrote: Perhaps, implement something like 'sticky sidebar' or 'position fixed' to present the 'Return to top' link rather than adding it after each section is another option I look favourably at. Obviously, I need to work out on IE6 for this.

Re: [WSG] WCAG2 in general

2008-09-30 Thread Mark Harris
Steve Green wrote: Does anyone think that WCAG 2.0 will improve the user experience? Or do you take my view that it only benefits developers, and that the user experience will be worse in future? This is my view as well. Mark Harris

RE: [WSG] WCAG2 in general

2008-09-30 Thread michael.brockington
Does anyone think that WCAG 2.0 will improve the user experience? Or do you take my view that it only benefits developers, and that the user experience will be worse in future? _Personally_ I think that it is basically a retrograde step. Version one was too complex for most people to fully

RE: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Rachel Radford
Hi Joe, Therefore, the use of 'Return to top' link will be required unless I can prove to my client that users don't click them via studies, research or user feedback, not just only from my personal experience. I think you answered your own question there... Can you do some studies or

RE: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread David Fuller :: magickweb
Hey every1... Just a silly idea, but what about using a background image, with a transparent gif over it, the gif is the return to top link... Being part of the background it wont print, you can make it PART of the background without it looking like a special link etc.. Just a random thought

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread David Dorward
David Fuller :: magickweb wrote: Just a silly idea, but what about using a background image, with a transparent gif over it, the gif is the return to top link... Being part of the background it wont print, you can make it PART of the background without it looking like a special link etc..

[WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread John Unsworth
Hi WSG, I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not! On a previous occasion I went forward using the object tag. The advantage to my mind is that,

Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Jason Pruim
On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:15 AM, John Unsworth wrote: Hi WSG, I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not! On a previous occasion I went forward

Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Mark Stickley
Well we've been working on a global sign in and registration system for some time now and the conclusion we've come to with the T's C's is to not include it in the page by default - have a link to it and hope that when the user clicks back their user agent will repopulate the fields (as most seem

RE: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Tatham Oddie
I would recommend a div element with a fixed height and overflow:auto. Use of a textarea would not be semantically correct because it is not user input. The only reason that leads to its use is that is gives you a scroll bar for free, however this can be achieved with relative ease as mentioned

Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Christian Snodgrass
What I see a lot of times that seems to be a decent idea is in the form have a check box with the label I have read and agree to the Terms Conditions. Then, have Terms Conditions actually be a link to a separate document (preferably a web page) which actually has the terms and conditions. It

Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Juarez Filho
I think the better approach is put a link to users see the Terms Conditions, because you probably will need to show this again in another section of the site. For JS capabilities browsers you can use the power of JS and Ajax to do a great interface. =D -- Regards, Juarez P. A. Filho

RES: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

2008-09-30 Thread Genau Lopes Junior
What you mean? -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Juarez Filho Enviada em: terça-feira, 30 de setembro de 2008 12:25 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page I think the better approach is

RE: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Kepler Gelotte
I am always curious why so rarely people in this list ever mention Dean Edwards' IE7. Maybe it is because it's a JavaScript solution. If you have JavaScript disabled, you are back to where you started. Of course, this may be a better solution than not trying to support IE6 at all which I read

RE: [WSG] WCAG2 in govt

2008-09-30 Thread Anthony.Hawkins
Thanks very much for all the replies here. I'll get back to the others who have commented. In the meantime, its fair to say that we're very aware of the issues around wcag2, mainly those concerning usability. I think the W3C themselves are open that using it requires quite a bit of dev