Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
Webb, KerryA wrote: Johan Douma wrote: Flash is on 99.9% of the computers. Which is the sort of claim made often by Adobe. But, if we're talking about a recent version of Flash on 99.9% of computers, that's a different matter. I think that's somewhat unfair. Adobe go out of their way to provide a breakdown of the headline figure: http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/ http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html (Also it's 99% not 99.9% - by Adobe's own figures 1 in 100 people don't have Flash, which is a not insignificant number if you're talking about, say, boosting sales from a website.) -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
php4 and encoded ampersands (was Re: [WSG] google and validation)
not a third party on the planet that knows how to write a valid script tag or encode ampersands... I've sometimes had to modify existing php and perl scripts to handle encoded ampersands. It seems that neither php 4's $_GET or $_REQUEST nor perl's param handle encoded ampersands in query strings (you often end up with amp;key rather than just key) so I often have to handle this in the script itself. Its not hard to do but if there are are lot of scripts or messy legacy code it can add a bit of hassle. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
Kerry I agree with you there - while 99% of computers online may have access to flash 2 or 3 some higher (of course) I think that we would be extremely hard pressed to find a majority of online machines with flash above flash 8. Myself, a web developer, only has flash 8 on my machine (I don't code in flash, so no real need to upgrade it any further at this stage...) I think flash players as old as 2 or 3 would be pretty rare nowdays, however with flash lite on quite a lot of mobile phones (capabilities something like flash 7 I think) and some linux distros coming with open source alternative flash players (capabilities like flash 7 or 8 also) I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 ...widgets pulling down xml, etc can be made to work fine using actionscript 2 and my favourite actionscript compiler (which btw was my first rather late introduction to the flash world) - mtasc ( http://www.mtasc.org/ ) is for actionscript 2. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I use TextMate. Extensible for all kinds of use. It has a good CSS bundle. It¹s rubbish for printing though - I use textwrangler for printing out code. On 20/10/2008 11:09, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.html It did the job From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: 20 October 2008 10:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS editors Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** All correspondence, attachments and agreements remain strictly subject to fully executed contract. (c) GCap Media plc 2008. All rights remain reserved. This e-mail (and any attachments) contains information which may be confidential, subject to intellectual property protection and may be legally privileged and protected from disclosure and unauthorised use. It is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is addressed and others specifically authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail or any parts of it please telephone 020 7054 8000 immediately upon receipt. No other person is authorised to copy, adapt, forward, disclose, distribute or retain this e-mail in any form without prior specific permission in writing from an authorised representative of GCap Media plc. We will not accept liability for any claims arising as a result of the use of the internet to transmit information by or to GCap Media plc. GCap Media plc. Registered address: 30 Leicester Square, London WC2H 7LA. Registered in England Wales with No. 923454 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I use textmate, http://macromates.com/ as it has really good plug-in support, I have heard good things about Coda though. Ollie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Ollie Kavanagh --- OK design Phone: 07701083386 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: olliekav www.olliekav.com --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] CSS editors
Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.html It did the job _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: 20 October 2008 10:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS editors Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like BBEdit when I am doing Java, C/C++ and general programming, but depending on the task I will use XCode aswell. If it's just HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP/Python/Ruby then I'd go with TextMate: http://macromates.com/ Good move on the Mac though. James On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: [WSG] CSS editors
there is a free version of bbedit called textwrangler if you can hardcode. Gicela Morales wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I'm using CODA too... I think it's a great tools since when still using PC, I'm get used to EditPlus. Rgds, Muswardi On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I used a Mac I edited with Text Wrangler http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/download.html It did the job From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: 20 October 2008 10:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS editors Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like BBEdit when I am doing Java, C/C++ and general programming, but depending on the task I will use XCode aswell. If it's just HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP/Python/Ruby then I'd go with TextMate: http://macromates.com/ Good move on the Mac though. James On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Does no-one use Topstyle? http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I'm Dreamweaver and hand write code. Years ago I used to use BBedit and loved it, however, I also moved from mac to pc years ago. I'm sorry that Barebones didn't develop versions for the pc. The companies I tend to work for are PC only Nancy On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:52 AM, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does no-one use Topstyle? http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] CSS editors
Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Email form builder
Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I'm still using Dreamweaver mainly. Textmate (http://macromates.com/) for anything else, especially if I don't want to wait for Dw to open. I have coda as well (http://www.panic.com/coda/), but it is damn slow on my old mac, I don't know how it is on newer G5/Intel machines. If it wasn't that slow I guess I would be using Coda instead of Dw. Last one for PHP code, I usually use Komodo IDE. The latest Zend Studio sucks and I haven't really been able to find anything else. I haven't really used CSSEdit. Can't tell you if it's any good. Smultron is pretty good for a free tool, but Textmate is way better and not that expensive. Additionnally, smultron is pretty heavy for such a simple text editor. But I guess it's my old mac's fault again. Cheers, Johan Johan Douma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/20 Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder - ADMIN
ADMIN As this is off topic, please email Paul directly off-list. Thanks Russ Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
On 20 Oct 2008, at 10:26, kevin mcmonagle wrote: micheal md wrote: I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 How about flv? IIRC flv came in with Flash 8 -- Rick Lecoat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] CSS editors
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gicela Morales Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:51 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS editors Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
micheal md wrote: I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 How about flv? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: php4 and encoded ampersands (was Re: [WSG] google and validation)
Michael MD wrote: not a third party on the planet that knows how to write a valid script tag or encode ampersands... I've sometimes had to modify existing php and perl scripts to handle encoded ampersands. It seems that neither php 4's $_GET or $_REQUEST nor perl's param handle encoded ampersands in query strings (you often end up with amp;key rather than just key) so I often have to handle this in the script itself. This sounds like an error in the URL, not in the parser. In a URL, an character as data should be represented as %26 In a URL, an character as a query string part separator should be represented as In HTML (including an HTML representation of a URL), an character should be represented as amp; The user agent (e.g. browser, bot, etc) should decode the amp; in the HTML to get in the DOM, so when it requests the URL from the webserver, it requests . It sounds like amp; is being requested. So the fault is in the tool making the request, not in the tool parsing it. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Don't know about 'best' but I use Dreamweaver. Rob 2008/10/20 Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors
Hi all, Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically accurate? a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a ... div id=tandc ... /div a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a I'm currently developing a pop-up method specifically for Terms Conditions. One where the TCs are in a div at the bottom of the page and a second where an Ajax call fetches the external content. Thanks for reading Mike Foskett http://webSemantics.co.uk/ Disclaimer This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS Edit and Coda? .greg These are the days of miracle and wonder. On Mon 20/10/08 03:00 , Prisca schmarsow [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ [1] you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ [2] happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards,Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm [4] Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm [5] Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [6] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk [7] • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org [8] • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm [9] Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm [10] Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Links: -- [1] http://www.panic.com/coda/ [2] http://tuppis.com/smultron/ [3] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [4] http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm [5] http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm [6] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [7] http://graphiceyedea.co.uk [8] http://eyelearn.org [9] http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm [10] http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
Greetings all, I am in the process of working with a developer on a Drupal project and I was wondering if there was any Standards Compliant and/or Semantically Correct widgets for Drupal out there... specifically for dropdown navigation (which is a primary concern of mine) or other things... I am a bit paranoid about general widget code quality since Web Standards developers are the exception, so I am assume that so are the the people that make OS CMS widgets. Perhaps the fact that we are working with OSS that the code quality will be better. A bit naive perhaps, but there you go. Thanks, Jim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Prisca, I have a graphic designer that swears by CSS Edit for all of his CSS modifications. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Gregory Alan Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS Edit and Coda? .greg These are the days of miracle and wonder. On Mon 20/10/08 03:00 , Prisca schmarsow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Nick Tomczek Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. -- C. S. Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors
Sorry, resending this, as I don't think my gmail account is signed up to the list. (if it posted anyway, apologies for the doubler) On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Foskett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically accurate? Not quite sure I follow from your code, but to voice it out: a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a Roughly, this says: the current page is the appendix of the place I'm linking to a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a The place I'm linking to is the appendix of the current page If I half understand your reasoning, you'd want this the other way around: the link somewhere in your page TO the TC uses rel, and then the link in the TCs that links back to the page per se (and presumably closes the popup?) would use the rev...but the link text itself should read something like back to the page, rather than TCs. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
I am in the process of working with a developer on a Drupal project and I was wondering if there was any Standards Compliant and/or Semantically Correct widgets for Drupal out there... specifically for dropdown navigation (which is a primary concern of mine) or other things... Thanks, Jim I am currently working on a large Drupal project using lots of modules. I have created my own Theme that is 508 compliant (and semantic) that I use to start with - headers, footers, content area titles, main site navigation that is based off the Garland theme.No problem there. Each module though that I work with I asses the code and then make modifications to the base files if necessary to be compliant, and most times it is necessary, though sometimes its only a couple of little things. It's not hard to do, but later upgrades are going to be a b--- so I document every change hopefully to make it easier later on. It also depends on what Ajax functionality you choose to use, or not use. The more you use, the less compliant it becomes. This is all so simplistic, don't know if any of it will help you. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors
Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically accurate? a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a ... div id=tandc ... /div a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a I'm currently developing a pop-up method specifically for Terms Conditions. One where the TCs are in a div at the bottom of the page and a second where an Ajax call fetches the external content. Thanks for reading Mike Foskett http://webSemantics.co.uk/ Since there are no standard values for rel, I think that microformats have been using this for licensing, and probably others. It's the relationship of the link, and if the link is a type of appendix, then semantically I don't see anything wrong with your use, though I would add a title tag stating the link was going to open a pop-up, if that's the case. rev is also a relationship, but not of the linked item, the other way around. If I was on a table of measurments and there was a link back to the recipe, the link would have a rev defining that the measurments do you're on is a dictionary for the recipe. So I don't think your use of rev is correct, or semantic. If you were on the TC and had a link to the home page, this link could have a rev. at least that's the way I understand it. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Hello list, I am currently investigating the disparities between various screen fonts and trying to come up with good font stacks that I can use in Blueprint CSS [1]. I found this page: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/pr_font_font-size-adjust.asp which explains how Verdana and Times, for example, have different aspect values. One of the problems I've had with specifying font families is that the size of text blocks, and the overall look of a page, is greatly affected if the user sees it in a different font from the intended choice, such as Verdana vs. Lucida Grande, because the actual size of the font (beyond just the font-size property) is vastly different. A further problem is that recently common fonts such as the Vista font collection (Calibri, Cambria, etc.) are significantly smaller at the same font-size as the classic Windows fonts (Arial, Verdana, Georgia, Trebuchet). Ultimately the goal is to be able to set up a font stack with fonts that have similar aspect values, letter widths, spacing, etc. so that the difference from one OS or device to the next is minimal, but it seems that I would have to adjust the aspect value with CSS to make that happen. So here are my questions: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing body copy? Would this kill sheep? - Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen display? Thanks in advance. [1] http://blueprintcss.org -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Greg, how do they compare... that really depends on what you need your code editor to do ;) You've got to give Smultron credit for being such a good editor, syntax highlighting etc - and being open source. So as an editor - if this is all you need - it's perfect. If, like me, you work a number of different projects at the same time and need the ability to upload any new code edits immediately - then Coda does the job all in one. I have to admit - I LOVE CODA :) :) Part of its appeal is the lovely interface (http://screencast.com/t/bfsC1VSEbC) as well as the access to your remote directory. It's main advantage over Smultron is that you can upload your files - so it basically combines the code editor with the FTP program which is my view is a winning point :) CSS Edit is merely a great CSS code editor - with added functions such as the XRay which allows you to highlight a HTML element and access its CSS directly via the inspector window. I use it to teach my webstudents - it does make getting your head around the code structure easier :) I wrote a little intro tutorial recently; have a look for more info: http://graphiceyedea.co.uk/wp/css-edit-a-coders-joy/ Hope this gives you an idea :-) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Gregory Alan Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS Edit and Coda? .greg These are the days of miracle and wonder. On Mon 20/10/08 03:00 , Prisca schmarsow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Nick, yes, CSS Edit is fantastic ;) for my students, entirely new to webdesign as well as coding (I am teaching webdesign, the web standard's way - and full on handcoding) - CSS Edit is proving a great help :) The fact that we can go and not only take a closer look at any given site's CSS - but also override it and edit it does make learning CSS easier :) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Nick Tomczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prisca, I have a graphic designer that swears by CSS Edit for all of his CSS modifications. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Gregory Alan Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prisca-- Like Gicela, I too am new to Macs. I'm using Smultron and like it a great deal. How does it compare with CSS Edit and Coda? .greg These are the days of miracle and wonder. On Mon 20/10/08 03:00 , Prisca schmarsow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gicela, yes - CSS Edit is fantastic :) you'll love it :-) My other favourite is Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/ you might also like to try Smultron which is open source: http://tuppis.com/smultron/ happy coding ;) Prisca On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gicela Morales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Nick Tomczek Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. -- C. S. Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- • graphiceyedea.co.uk • eyedea.eu • eyelearn.org • -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors
Susan Grossman wrote: Since there are no standard values for rel http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.12 are the standard link types for REL and REV. They are open to use with other values, as specified by a scheme specified by a PROFILE link on HEAD (not that PROFILE has seen much adoption). -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. I agree with Kevin, however if you're friend requires more please feel free to contact me offlist. BOL, - Scott. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
Susan, That give me an idea. I am just starting to learn PHP and Drupal so making changes on my own will be fun. I am looking forward to tacking some. Thanks, Jim I am currently working on a large Drupal project using lots of modules. I have created my own Theme that is 508 compliant (and semantic) that I use to start with - headers, footers, content area titles, main site navigation that is based off the Garland theme.No problem there. Each module though that I work with I asses the code and then make modifications to the base files if necessary to be compliant, and most times it is necessary, though sometimes its only a couple of little things. It's not hard to do, but later upgrades are going to be a b--- so I document every change hopefully to make it easier later on. It also depends on what Ajax functionality you choose to use, or not use. The more you use, the less compliant it becomes. This is all so simplistic, don't know if any of it will help you. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] CSS editors
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Gicela Morales wrote: Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like BBEdit when I am doing Java, C/C++ and general programming, but depending on the task I will use XCode aswell. If it's just HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP/Python/Ruby then I'd go with TextMate: http://macromates.com/ I use Textmate, CSSEdit and Coda, all are good, are have something other lack. I wish only there is a tool that have the three so that I can save a bit of money and use one tool instead of three. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan Grossman wrote: Since there are no standard values for rel http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.12 are the standard link types for REL and REV. They are open to use with other values, as specified by a scheme specified by a PROFILE link on HEAD (not that PROFILE has seen much adoption). -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis Thanks - I'd forgotten about the profile. Should've taken the time to look it up and appreciate the correction. Think I at least got right the usage of rel and rev though :) -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
Quoting tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Gicela Morales wrote: Thanks everyone. I like the idea of TextMate and TextWrangler! Gicela :-) 2008/10/20 James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have both BBEdit and TextMate. I use TextMate alot because it's a nice and simple text editor. Project creation is easy also, you just drag in project folders. I like BBEdit when I am doing Java, C/C++ and general programming, but depending on the task I will use XCode aswell. If it's just HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP/Python/Ruby then I'd go with TextMate: http://macromates.com/ If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Been using it since it was first available and haven't looked at anything else. Mind you, apart from Flash * GIMP, I use notepad++ for all my web design. Regards, Dennis @ eyemaxstudios.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Just to throw this in the mix - stop trying to control the font size! I dont require reading glasses (yet...), but due to weak eyesight for small fonts and high-resolution screens causing poor font scaling, I choose to increase the size of the default values for some fonts eg: I setup fonts to be 150% of the page's requirements. Whatever design you choose, will probably not meet everyones expectations; you can however mitigate most of the problems, by simply not using fixed positioning. cheers, Mathew Robertson Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am currently investigating the disparities between various screen fonts and trying to come up with good font stacks that I can use in Blueprint CSS [1]. I found this page: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/pr_font_font-size-adjust.asp which explains how Verdana and Times, for example, have different aspect values. One of the problems I've had with specifying font families is that the size of text blocks, and the overall look of a page, is greatly affected if the user sees it in a different font from the intended choice, such as Verdana vs. Lucida Grande, because the actual size of the font (beyond just the font-size property) is vastly different. A further problem is that recently common fonts such as the Vista font collection (Calibri, Cambria, etc.) are significantly smaller at the same font-size as the classic Windows fonts (Arial, Verdana, Georgia, Trebuchet). Ultimately the goal is to be able to set up a font stack with fonts that have similar aspect values, letter widths, spacing, etc. so that the difference from one OS or device to the next is minimal, but it seems that I would have to adjust the aspect value with CSS to make that happen. So here are my questions: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing body copy? Would this kill sheep? - Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen display? Thanks in advance. [1] http://blueprintcss.org -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Ignoring the fact that the OP requested a Mac -- not Windows-only -- solution :-) So I'll mention jEdit http://jedit.org/ -- also free/open source, suitable for just about any developer environment, plus cross-platform (requires a JVM). -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
www.wufoo.com from memory does ... ? On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Scott Elcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. I agree with Kevin, however if you're friend requires more please feel free to contact me offlist. BOL, - Scott. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I use Aptana for all of my web development (XHTML/CSS/Rails/PHP). It was just purchased by another company, but they do offer a community version for free (Pro version for $99). (Link: http://www.aptana.com/studio/). They do have a Mac version, although I've never used it, I'm a PC guy, but it's free so you can atleast give it a shot as see if you like it. Nick On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Ignoring the fact that the OP requested a Mac -- not Windows-only -- solution :-) So I'll mention jEdit http://jedit.org/ -- also free/open source, suitable for just about any developer environment, plus cross-platform (requires a JVM). -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Nick Tomczek Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. -- C. S. Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Here is an expanded and updated compilation for zooming and/or changing text size via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S) when viewing web pages : When using ]MSIE] . Zoom out: ctrl + (larger - repeat until desired size is obtained) Zoom in: ctrl - (smaller - repeat until desired size is obtained) Return to original size: ctrl 0 (zero) When using Firefox . same as with MSIE (You can specify change text size only in Firefox via the top menu bar: View --- Zoom --- Zoom Text only. Setting remains until changed. The above keyboard shortcuts will now only change the text size leaving the image sizes as original). When using Safari/Chrome . same as with MSIE except the keyboard shortcuts only change the text size leaving the image sizes as original. When using Opera . same as for Firefox/MSIE except use shift + for Zoom out. (Quick zooming via a scrolling mouse: ctrl - scroll wheel) Web developers/authors might want to check pages they are composing to be sure navigation is not affected by incremental zooming (visitors will seldom zoom more than three increments). In my experience, many visitors (especially those with diminished vision) to web pages now increase the text size by one or two increments for easier reading especially when very small text is encountered. James -- http://jp29.org/index.php - Web Authoring References Resources Non-commercial interoperable web pages Mathew Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to throw this in the mix - stop trying to control the font size! I dont require reading glasses (yet...), but due to weak eyesight for small fonts and high-resolution screens causing poor font scaling, I choose to increase the size of the default values for some fonts eg: I setup fonts to be 150% of the page's requirements. Whatever design you choose, will probably not meet everyones expectations; you can however mitigate most of the problems, by simply not using fixed positioning. cheers, Mathew Robertson Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am currently investigating the disparities between various screen fonts and trying to come up with good font stacks that I can use in Blueprint CSS [1]. I found this page: http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/pr_font_font-size-adjust.asp which explains how Verdana and Times, for example, have different aspect values. One of the problems I've had with specifying font families is that the size of text blocks, and the overall look of a page, is greatly affected if the user sees it in a different font from the intended choice, such as Verdana vs. Lucida Grande, because the actual size of the font (beyond just the font-size property) is vastly different. A further problem is that recently common fonts such as the Vista font collection (Calibri, Cambria, etc.) are significantly smaller at the same font-size as the classic Windows fonts (Arial, Verdana, Georgia, Trebuchet). Ultimately the goal is to be able to set up a font stack with fonts that have similar aspect values, letter widths, spacing, etc. so that the difference from one OS or device to the next is minimal, but it seems that I would have to adjust the aspect value with CSS to make that happen. So here are my questions: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing body copy? Would this kill sheep? - Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen display? Thanks in advance. [1] http://blueprintcss.org -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
To Susan and Jim, Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). By judicious use of theme and module overrides and by building sites in multi-site mode, you can achieve any sort of markup and form alterations while simultaneously completely avoiding changes to Drupal core code or 3rd party modules you might employ. That makes future updates of core and modules much much less painful. Drupal also makes it easy to replace any interface text, either with Drupal's full-blown internationalisation framework, or by using the string replacement functionality introduced with Drupal 6.x (see your settings.php file). We (Egressive) actually chose Drupal as our core platform because of it's community's surprisingly high awareness of web standards, and because of the degree to which Drupal - by design - allows us to tweak markup and user interface elements to comply with our preferred standards. It's an incredibly powerful, versatile system. Hope that helps you. Kind regards, Dave James O'Neill wrote: Susan, That give me an idea. I am just starting to learn PHP and Drupal so making changes on my own will be fun. I am looking forward to tacking some. Thanks, Jim I am currently working on a large Drupal project using lots of modules. I have created my own Theme that is 508 compliant (and semantic) that I use to start with - headers, footers, content area titles, main site navigation that is based off the Garland theme. No problem there. Each module though that I work with I asses the code and then make modifications to the base files if necessary to be compliant, and most times it is necessary, though sometimes its only a couple of little things. It's not hard to do, but later upgrades are going to be a b--- so I document every change hopefully to make it easier later on. It also depends on what Ajax functionality you choose to use, or not use. The more you use, the less compliant it becomes. This is all so simplistic, don't know if any of it will help you. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I use HTML-Kit which is free Web page Editing/Authoring facility that provides the following features: * Multiple File type editing: .html, .xml, .css, .rdf, .php, .js etc. * Can be used for hand coding ala MS Notepad * Pre-formed constructs, elements attributes can be used via drop-down menus if desired * Split-screen viewing of code generation on the fly * Previewing of page layout in multi graphical Browsers * Selection and use of Doctype headers (HTML/XHTML/XML) * Syntax checking and correction via Tidy plug-in on the fly * Tidy generated pretty print code * HTML-XHTML Markup conversion * Online .html amp; .css document validation on the fly * Spell checker and Thesaurus * Search and replace facility for content management James -- http://jp29.org/index.php - Web Authoring References Resources Non-commercial interoperable standards compliant web pages Nick Tomczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Aptana for all of my web development (XHTML/CSS/Rails/PHP). It was just purchased by another company, but they do offer a community version for free (Pro version for $99). (Link: http://www.aptana.com/studio/). They do have a Mac version, although I've never used it, I'm a PC guy, but it's free so you can atleast give it a shot as see if you like it. Nick On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Ignoring the fact that the OP requested a Mac -- not Windows-only -- solution :-) So I'll mention jEdit http://jedit.org/ -- also free/open source, suitable for just about any developer environment, plus cross-platform (requires a JVM). -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Nick Tomczek Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. -- C. S. Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being - to pop back up in a later CSS version. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility Transcripts for Audio and Video
Thanks John - I'll have a look into it. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Jennie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Jennie, Granted it was at the product launch of CS4 for Adobe, but one of the items they promoted was a feature in their sound program Soundbooth that did just this. It certainly appeared convincing, but as I say, it was a promotion night! There didn't seem to be any suggestion that it couldn't handle multiple voices, but then again, they didn't explicitly say that it could. As a tool, it might provide some heavy lifting when doing it the old fashioned way and allow you to tidy up the results. Also as I understood it, this feature previously existed elsewhere, and that Adobe had aquired it. Later I spoke with a guy who worked for the Australian Broadcasting Service, and he implied that the method you described, the old fashioned way, was previously all they had. For video work I might suggest you might find good info at Creative Cow; http://forums.creativecow.net/ or even the Adobe website. Not surprisingly a quick google search provides some info, and this link looked informed. http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Making_Video_Accessible Not exactly your question answered, but hope it might of helped. Cheers, John Unsworth *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). cut Kind regards, Dave Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them. Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to do some changing to. I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules seem to be equal to me. I'll take your suggestion and do more research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site mode. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? My apologies -- I was remiss. James -- http://jp29.org/index.php Web Authoring References Resources *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:36:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: - What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust property? - Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing body copy? Would this kill sheep? - Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen display? Hi Christian, I believe that Firefox 3 supports it, but must admit I have not tried using it. Interestingly I can't see the property listed in Sitepoint's Ultimate CSS Reference. Hmm. As for setting up font stacks, I found this article useful: http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/ The linked PDF with samples of each type face shown side-by-side is a useful resource too, I think. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
Hi Susan, Yes, some very useful modules are written by people sometimes don't have a full appreciation of how they can take advantage of Drupal's capabilities - and fair enough too (I'm sure we did that too, when we started, and probably still do from time to time)... Ideally, if you have to tweak a module to make it standards compliant, etc. then you can create a diff (i.e. a patch - instructions on drupal.org) of the module changes and submit it to the module maintainer for consideration. If the Drupal community deems the improvement valuable, there's little reason to think it won't be wrapped into the next release. That way, you don't have to maintain the code yourself, and you won't have problems with upgrades. It's cool how open source works. Cheers, Dave Susan Grossman wrote: Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). cut Kind regards, Dave Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them. Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to do some changing to. I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules seem to be equal to me. I'll take your suggestion and do more research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site mode. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:41 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:36:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote:
- What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust
property?
- Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing
body copy?
Would this kill sheep?
- Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen
display?
Hi Christian,
I believe that Firefox 3 supports it, but must admit I have not tried
using it. Interestingly I can't see the property listed in Sitepoint's
Ultimate CSS Reference. Hmm.
As for setting up font stacks, I found this article useful:
http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/
The linked PDF with samples of each type face shown side-by-side
is a useful resource too, I think.
David,
I've been looking at that exact article, actually. It's very helpful.
I guess the biggest dilemma, currently, is that I am to come up with a
consistent vertical rhythm, but with just font-size and line-height
alone, such as:
body {
font-size:75%;
line-height: 1.5;
}
it's not enough. The difference in x-height between small fonts like
Calibri and large fonts like Verdana makes for very different
results. As far as I can tell, even using pixel or point sizes for
fonts doesn't make a difference. And I'm guessing that as far as
browser compatibility goes, there's nothing that does. Is that right?
--
--
Christian Montoya
christianmontoya.net
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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?
Hi Susan, Yes, some very useful modules are written by people sometimes don't have a full appreciation of how they can take advantage of Drupal's capabilities - and fair enough too (I'm sure we did that too, when we started, and probably still do from time to time)... Ideally, if you have to tweak a module to make it standards compliant, etc. then you can create a diff (i.e. a patch - instructions on drupal.org) of the module changes and submit it to the module maintainer for consideration. If the Drupal community deems the improvement valuable, there's little reason to think it won't be wrapped into the next release. That way, you don't have to maintain the code yourself, and you won't have problems with upgrades. It's cool how open source works. Cheers, Dave Susan Grossman wrote: Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). cut Kind regards, Dave Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them. Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to do some changing to. I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules seem to be equal to me. I'll take your suggestion and do more research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site mode. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being - to pop back up in a later CSS version. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
www.wufoo.com from memory does ... ? On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Scott Elcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. I agree with Kevin, however if you're friend requires more please feel free to contact me offlist. BOL, - Scott. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure most experienced Web authors know this, but some newer ones might not. A quick and handy way to incrementally zoom and/or change text size when viewing a web page is via keyboard shortcuts (Windows O/S): Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? My apologies -- I was remiss. James -- http://jp29.org/index.php Web Authoring References Resources *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility Transcripts for Audio and Video
Thanks John - I'll have a look into it. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Jennie On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Jennie, Granted it was at the product launch of CS4 for Adobe, but one of the items they promoted was a feature in their sound program Soundbooth that did just this. It certainly appeared convincing, but as I say, it was a promotion night! There didn't seem to be any suggestion that it couldn't handle multiple voices, but then again, they didn't explicitly say that it could. As a tool, it might provide some heavy lifting when doing it the old fashioned way and allow you to tidy up the results. Also as I understood it, this feature previously existed elsewhere, and that Adobe had aquired it. Later I spoke with a guy who worked for the Australian Broadcasting Service, and he implied that the method you described, the old fashioned way, was previously all they had. For video work I might suggest you might find good info at Creative Cow; http://forums.creativecow.net/ or even the Adobe website. Not surprisingly a quick google search provides some info, and this link looked informed. http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=Making_Video_Accessible Not exactly your question answered, but hope it might of helped. Cheers, John Unsworth *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS editors
I use HTML-Kit which is free Web page Editing/Authoring facility that provides the following features: * Multiple File type editing: .html, .xml, .css, .rdf, .php, .js etc. * Can be used for hand coding ala MS Notepad * Pre-formed constructs, elements attributes can be used via drop-down menus if desired * Split-screen viewing of code generation on the fly * Previewing of page layout in multi graphical Browsers * Selection and use of Doctype headers (HTML/XHTML/XML) * Syntax checking and correction via Tidy plug-in on the fly * Tidy generated pretty print code * HTML-XHTML Markup conversion * Online .html amp; .css document validation on the fly * Spell checker and Thesaurus * Search and replace facility for content management James -- http://jp29.org/index.php - Web Authoring References Resources Non-commercial interoperable standards compliant web pages Nick Tomczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Aptana for all of my web development (XHTML/CSS/Rails/PHP). It was just purchased by another company, but they do offer a community version for free (Pro version for $99). (Link: http://www.aptana.com/studio/). They do have a Mac version, although I've never used it, I'm a PC guy, but it's free so you can atleast give it a shot as see if you like it. Nick On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to save money and have an all round free open source editor that does CSS, PHP, javascript, and other major languages I would suggest notepad++. Ignoring the fact that the OP requested a Mac -- not Windows-only -- solution :-) So I'll mention jEdit http://jedit.org/ -- also free/open source, suitable for just about any developer environment, plus cross-platform (requires a JVM). -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Nick Tomczek Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: What! You too? I thought I was the only one. -- C. S. Lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). ... cut Kind regards, Dave Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them. Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to do some changing to. I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules seem to be equal to me. I'll take your suggestion and do more research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site mode. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Hello Susan, If you're doing a lot of Drupal development, and you don't already have it, I strongly recommend getting a copy of Pro Drupal Development by John K. VanDyk - the 6.x version of the book is ISBN: 978-1-4302-0989-8 - there's also a previous version focusing on 5.x which is equally indespensible for learning the drupal way of doing things. Cheers, Dave Susan Grossman wrote: Our core business is building sites with Drupal. We focus on XHTML 1.0 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and various other considerations. We've found Drupal to be remarkably pliable with regard to those changes. Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will definitely cause you maintenance headaches. I would encourage you to learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal world). ... cut Kind regards, Dave Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them. Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to do some changing to. I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules seem to be equal to me. I'll take your suggestion and do more research and see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site mode. -- Susan R. Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
