Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Raena Jackson Armitage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa, On behalf of other list members, any chance of turning return receipts off? The read receipt was requested by the original poster. The software this list uses actually seems pretty bad at filtering out stuff like this. Good list management software strips out read-receipt headers [1] as well as blocking the automated out-of-office messages that seem to plague this list. Regards, Matt [1] For example, this is the mailman bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265220 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Dave, Dave: I recommend you check out S5: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/10/18/ssup5sup-10/ I've used them on quite a few occasions and they work very well so long as you're happy playing with HTML markup. Diego: I've seen it, It seem like both HTML Slidy and JAST-A-Slide. Right It's interesting and I will proof the knowledge of it. Thanks for the link. Dave: PS I suggest turning off email receipts on emails to mailing lists :) Diego: Damn! I forgot to turn off it every time I post to any kind of mailing list... but It's necessary to keep in touch with the clever customers! ;) Sorry to all the list for the return receipt spam :) Diego La Monica Diego La Monica wrote: Hi guys, I'd like to inform you all that I've developed an alternative to *HTML Slidy* that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard like it. The plus is that you can *listen the slides with Assistive Technologies* and produce a *remote presentation*: Students (Client) listen the slides while the Teacher (Server) leads them. All information regarding *JAST-A-Slide* are available on http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ . I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I'm informing about a standard and compliant software solution. I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality and the performance of that script! Cheers! Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibility mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system
I can offer this, though I'm not sure if it meets your needs. http://green-beast.com/autorun/ Cheers. Mike Cherim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Mike, I apreciate a lot your offer, but JAST-a-slide is a client side (x)html+javascript (it uses AJAX, and yes php too, to synchronize more clients with master), so if I need an autorun I will implement it directly in Javascript. ;) Thanks Diego La Monica -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Mike at Green-Beast.com Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 16.04 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system I can offer this, though I'm not sure if it meets your needs. http://green-beast.com/autorun/ Cheers. Mike Cherim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Matt, It could be a bug of the mailing list software, right, but return receipt is annoing and I beg pardon for the mistake! Regards, Diego La Monica _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Matt Ryall Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 9.01 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Raena Jackson Armitage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa, On behalf of other list members, any chance of turning return receipts off? The read receipt was requested by the original poster. The software this list uses actually seems pretty bad at filtering out stuff like this. Good list management software strips out read-receipt headers [1] as well as blocking the automated out-of-office messages that seem to plague this list. Regards, Matt [1] For example, this is the mailman bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265220 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Thierry, I solved the keyboard navigation issues, try to take a look now [1], I've uploaded an updated version of the script. Only the active tab got focus while and you can change tab only with left/right arrow... It seems like reasonable way to work for you? ;-) Cheers, Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it P.S. With IE7 the page you've suggested [2] me is broken. [1] http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ [2] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-link s.asp *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
The jastAslide links dont work in firefox -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diego La Monica Sent: 22 October 2008 16:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Hi Thierry, I solved the keyboard navigation issues, try to take a look now [1], I've uploaded an updated version of the script. Only the active tab got focus while and you can change tab only with left/right arrow... It seems like reasonable way to work for you? ;-) Cheers, Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it P.S. With IE7 the page you've suggested [2] me is broken. [1] http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ [2] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-link s.asp *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 21/10/2008 14:10 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
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R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
I've tested it in FF 3, IE6 and 7, Opera 9.5, Safari 3 for Microsoft Windows and all works fine. Please, can you be more exact? Which links are broken or don't work? Did you some strange operations (eg. disable javascript after load the page)? Cheers, Diego La Monica -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.03 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system The jastAslide links dont work in firefox -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diego La Monica Sent: 22 October 2008 16:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Hi Thierry, I solved the keyboard navigation issues, try to take a look now [1], I've uploaded an updated version of the script. Only the active tab got focus while and you can change tab only with left/right arrow... It seems like reasonable way to work for you? ;-) Cheers, Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it P.S. With IE7 the page you've suggested [2] me is broken. [1] http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ [2] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-link s.asp *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 21/10/2008 14:10 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Another one? How do we turn off the receipts? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dennis Lapcewich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Return Receipt Your R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system document: wasDennis Lapcewich/R6/USDAFS received by: at:10/22/2008 09:11:15 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Sorry, again! Diego La Monica _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Brett Patterson Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.22 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Another one? How do we turn off the receipts? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dennis Lapcewich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Return Receipt Your R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system document: wasDennis Lapcewich/R6/USDAFS received by: at:10/22/2008 09:11:15 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Its ok. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Diego La Monica [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sorry, again! Diego La Monica -- *Da:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Per conto di *Brett Patterson *Inviato:* mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.22 *A:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Oggetto:* Re: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Another one? How do we turn off the receipts? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dennis Lapcewich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Return Receipt Your R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system document: wasDennis Lapcewich/R6/USDAFS received by: at:10/22/2008 09:11:15 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: R: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
No its not ok, its irritating Diego maybe you could create an email address specifically for this list and turn the return receipt off so we dont have to deal with your clever customer issues. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:44 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: R: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Its ok. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Diego La Monica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, again! Diego La Monica _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Brett Patterson Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.22 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Another one? How do we turn off the receipts? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dennis Lapcewich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Return Receipt Your R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system document: wasDennis Lapcewich/R6/USDAFS received by: at:10/22/2008 09:11:15 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:36:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote:
- What's the support across browsers / machines for the font-size-adjust
property? -
Is adjusting the aspect value bad form? Is this as bad as letter-spacing
body
copy? Would this kill sheep?
- Has anyone done this before? Is there an ideal aspect value for screen
display?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:41 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
Hi Christian,
I believe that Firefox 3 supports it, but must admit I have not tried using
it.
Interestingly I can't see the property listed in Sitepoint's Ultimate CSS
Reference. Hmm.
As for setting up font stacks, I found this article useful:
http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/better-css-font-stacks/
The linked PDF with samples of each type face shown side-by-side
is a useful resource too, I think.
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:44:26 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote back:
David,
I've been looking at that exact article, actually. It's very helpful. I guess
the
biggest dilemma, currently, is that I am to come up with a consistent
vertical rhythm,
but with just font-size and line-height alone, such as:
body {
font-size:75%;
line-height: 1.5;
}
it's not enough. The difference in x-height between small fonts like
Calibri and
large fonts like Verdana makes for very different results. As far as I can
tell, even
using pixel or point sizes for fonts doesn't make a difference. And I'm
guessing that
as far as browser compatibility goes, there's nothing that does. Is that
right?
Interesting. I have been doing some extensive tests to get that
vertical rhythm to work cross-browser. I had not considered the
differing x-height between fonts. I'll make some more tests and report
back.
Meantime, I found the most consistent results using 100% base font
in IE, and 16 pixels for the rest. !00% base just does not work for all.
After that, I found I can use percents or EMs, calculated from nominal
pixels, for most everything-- as long as you round *any* fraction up
to the next higher .01em for Safari.
Note: some browsers only apply whole percents, so more precision
may upset things.
Here are my results so far:
Nominal Points Size Pixels/ Percent
6pt nonpareil 8px 50%
7pt minion 9px 56.5%
8pt brevier 11px69%
9pt bourgeois 12px75%
10pt long primer13px82%
11pt small pica 15px94%
12pt pica 16px100%
14pt english19px119%
16pt columbian 21px132%
18pt great primer 24px150%
21pt double small pica 28px175%
24pt double pica32px200%
36pt double great primer48px300%
(Hope this isn't too muddled.)
P.S. - I use a line-height in EMs, based off the base, for body text
that's close to 100% to get equal vertical spacing. But I do need
to test various font faces, as you suggest. Also, DPI other than 96.
Cordially,
David
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