RE: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
PNG transparency only works in IE7+ ...there are some workarounds easliy found on Google. hth Peter Goddard Developer/Programmer PSI Global Ltd, Bowburn, Durham DH6 5AD, UK T: +44 (0) 191 3774742 F: +44 (0) 191 3770769 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristine Cummins Sent: 11 November 2008 10:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I'm tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn't adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
Jeez – guess I was tired – little obvious. None the less, it’s really cool to post a question in the middle of the night and wake up to the answer. Thanks to ALL who worked on my issue – appreciate it greatly. --Kristine From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Bruniges Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:24 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] The mystery gap issue #imagery has a height of 566px set in your CSS and your image container (#master0) has a height of 564px set in CSS (i'm guessing via JS) 2px gap problem found _ From: Kristine Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008 10:01:39 Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I’m tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn’t adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Re: Some links for light reading (11/11/08)
Didn't notice - but how funny :) on 11/11/08 11:28 PM, Dave Hall at wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 22:33 +1100, russ - maxdesign wrote: The Ethics of Quick Backlinking Strategy http://monsterboxpro.com/2008/11/7/high-page-rank-30-minutes-simple-backlink ing-strategy-guaranteed Is your (website¹s) underwear showing? http://www.zeldman.com/2008/11/07/is-your-websites-underwear-showing/ I don't know if anyone else picked this up, but link #1 has the problem described in link #2. I wonder if the positioning in the list was intentional :) Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
#imagery has a height of 566px set in your CSS and your image container (#master0) has a height of 564px set in CSS (i'm guessing via JS) 2px gap problem found From: Kristine Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008 10:01:39 Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I’m tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn’t adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Liz Juniper is Out of the Office
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[WSG] The mystery gap issue
Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I'm tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn't adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
I belive your transaparency problems have been answered. I also have a problem with a gap like this so am dying to know what causes it. I was tearing my hair out yesterday and I ended up using a negative margin on the image get get around it. James 2008/11/11 Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kristine, All versions of IE before version 7 do not support png transparency. I usually use javascript to get this to work correctly for IE 5.5 and 6. One of these should help: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/index.htm http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ Hope this helps! Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kristine Cummins *Sent:* 11 November 2008 10:02 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I'm tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn't adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
Hi Kristine, All versions of IE before version 7 do not support png transparency. I usually use javascript to get this to work correctly for IE 5.5 and 6. One of these should help: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/index.htm http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ Hope this helps! Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristine Cummins Sent: 11 November 2008 10:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I'm tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn't adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: Some links for light reading (11/11/08)
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 22:33 +1100, russ - maxdesign wrote: The Ethics of Quick Backlinking Strategy http://monsterboxpro.com/2008/11/7/high-page-rank-30-minutes-simple-backlinking-strategy-guaranteed Is your (website¹s) underwear showing? http://www.zeldman.com/2008/11/07/is-your-websites-underwear-showing/ I don't know if anyone else picked this up, but link #1 has the problem described in link #2. I wonder if the positioning in the list was intentional :) Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] The mystery gap issue
Good Day! You have set the 'height' and 'overflow' on your #ubercontainer layer. The bottom footer is taller then the fixed height. The 2 pixel gap is actually the copyright info that is cut off. Simple fix: Just removed the height from the #ubsercontainer. Regards, Martin Andres http://www.innovasium.com blocked::http://www.innovasium.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Farrell Sent: November-11-08 6:36 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] The mystery gap issue I belive your transaparency problems have been answered. I also have a problem with a gap like this so am dying to know what causes it. I was tearing my hair out yesterday and I ended up using a negative margin on the image get get around it. James 2008/11/11 Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Kristine, All versions of IE before version 7 do not support png transparency. I usually use javascript to get this to work correctly for IE 5.5 and 6. One of these should help: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/index.htm http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ Hope this helps! Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristine Cummins Sent: 11 November 2008 10:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] The mystery gap issue Please check www.richardvonsaal.com/test/index.html The gap is about 2 pixels high directly beneath the big image, and on top of the footer div. Stylesheet www.richardvonsaal.com/test/styles.html I'm tearing hair at this point. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Another question: why is it that the .png file shows a white background in older versions of IE? Is it because it hadn't adapted to this newer file type? Should I not use the .png file type yet? Thanks in advance, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Hmm, strange that they could not write software that either: a) could be installed with out requiring root access, say a restricted user account specifically for this software or b) they can't provide you with instructions how to do it yourself. Luke Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Don't share your root access with anyone. On 11-Nov-08, at 7:41 PM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Hi Sherri I think you have done the right thing, giving away root access means you possibly could become quite vulnerable.I think. But I am pretty sure this person you are speaking with is talking rubbish when she says others have given access. Mind you, to at least keep a positive relationship. I am pretty sure you can write some software basically allowing some form of restricted access to a particular user name and login. This means you can give them access to the areas which they need but keep them out of areas which are confidential. I hope this helps Cheers TY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graphics Web Designing, LLC Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:42 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Sounds like a death-trap. Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:53 +1100, Luke Hoggett wrote: Hmm, strange that they could not write software that either: a) could be installed with out requiring root access, say a restricted user account specifically for this software or b) they can't provide you with instructions how to do it yourself. By the sounds of things they are a spam list vendor so they need to be beaten with a clue stick anyway. There is only one person who gets any kind of shell access on my servers - thats me. Clients get restricted sftp if they really need it - and can justify it to me. If your client insists on getting something like this done, set them up with a box from slicehost.com or a mediatemple.net DV server. Then they can give root access to the box and if they are spamming people the rest of your clients don't their mail blacklisted too. Best get the client to sign up for the service so if they get booted they are the ones liable for any charges. If your client doesn't understand the implications of the request, then you are probably best off without them. Cheers Dave Luke Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Sherri hey.. I agree with Thiru on that - you should NEVER give out your root access to anybody... Its far 2 risky... There are 2 alternatives. Either a) set up a normal user account with SSH access (this would give them access to their area of the server only) OR b) Research the software and install it yourself (and charge the client appropriately for your time) I hope they help David Fuller Developer magickweb Web:http://www.magick.com.au Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thiru Yoganathan Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2008 11:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign Hi Sherri I think you have done the right thing, giving away root access means you possibly could become quite vulnerable.I think. But I am pretty sure this person you are speaking with is talking rubbish when she says others have given access. Mind you, to at least keep a positive relationship. I am pretty sure you can write some software basically allowing some form of restricted access to a particular user name and login. This means you can give them access to the areas which they need but keep them out of areas which are confidential. I hope this helps Cheers TY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graphics Web Designing, LLC Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:42 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic's Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
On Nov 11, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. And so you should!! Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? You are right - if you have a business with a client, does that give him the right to demand the keys and security codes of your office? I don't think so! And how is this different? Andrew Maben http://www.andrewmaben.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Giving anyone outside your business root access to your sever is NOT wise at all. I was previously sharing a dedicaed server with a friend that turned out to be one of the largest bot farmers in Australia, and subsequently led the server being dDOS'd. Giving these people root access leaves any other client's on the server at their mercy, and if your other client's find out, they could have ground to sue you, especially if they're under the impression or your contracted to provide secure hosting. Personally I would report them to the spam cops, 'cos to me, that's what they look like to be. I bet their software is just a set of spam bots, and could possibly be used to infect site visitor''s systems from any of the sites you host. And therefore give them more bots to use to send spam. Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
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RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
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Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
As a professional I would advise your client to run a mil from this supplier. There are plenty of ways to send email marketing safely, securely, intelligently and usefully, like Campaign Monitor, mailbuild, and other conscientious, responsible mailers. There is nothing more sinister than buying a mailing list that requires root access. Joe On 12/11/2008, at 11:41 AM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype:wheelyweb http://au.movember.com/mospace/1714401 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. that would be their software that sets up a mail relay for the purposes of illegal spamming? ...no, that would just be me being paranoid. You did right! -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com ~~~ * ~~~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***