RE: [WSG] embedding quicktime .mov cross-platform

2009-01-16 Thread Foskett, Mike
 
Maybe try this out?
http://websemantics.co.uk/resources/embedding_flash_video/

Simple, accessible and web standards compliant.

Mike Foskett
http://websemantics.co.uk/



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Subject: Re: [WSG] embedding quicktime .mov cross-platform


On Jan 15, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:

 My recommendation is that you convert the movies to FLV and use a
 standard Flash FLV player. You'll find better support that way, and
 you can do things like basic streaming, rather than just putting the
 videos on the page with object or embed.

  a friend suggested uploading onto vimeo and linking. i'm looking at  
that now.
also looking at converters. i'll get there eventually. thanks much.

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Re: [WSG] Image with borders due to Anchor tag

2009-01-16 Thread Johan Douma
I'm not sure if I understand the question...
But it's actually easy to remove the borders from an image in an anchor tag
using css, not inline.

a img{
  border:none;
}

When that's done, you can do whatever you want with the link or with the
image.


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2009/1/16 Brett Patterson inspiron.patters...@gmail.com

 Okay. That makes sense.

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 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.ukwrote:

 Brett Patterson wrote:
  So, my question is this. Why does the image tag have to have the border
  placed on it, instead of placing the border or text-decoration styles on
  the anchor tag?

 Consider the case:

 a href=/ img src=/foo alt= Ipsum Ipsum /a

 A border around the entire thing would give a very different effect to a
 border around just the image.

 There's no selector in CSS to select an element based on its descendants
 either.

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[WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Stewart Griffiths
All,

Please can you provide feedback on the following website
http://webprocafe.com/

We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site, plus
any general feedback you want to provide.

Thanks all,

Stew

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Hi Stewart,

Sounds fine, as long as you phrase your request clearly to the group ­ ie,
what you are asking them to review.

Good luck with the launch!
Thanks
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on 10/1/09 12:33 AM, Stewart Griffiths at wrote:

 Peter, Russ,

 I see that the list allows website reviews. We are just about to launch a
new
 forum and would like to ask the group their opinion.

 However, the site is a web design and development forum and I did not want
to
 send it around without contacting you first, as it may be misconstrued as
 selfless promotion.

 Please let me know your thoughts.

 Thanks,

 Stew



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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Stewart Griffiths 
stewartmgriffi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please can you provide feedback on the following website
 http://webprocafe.com/

 We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site, plus
 any general feedback you want to provide.


Design, Development, Coffee ...?

- Matthew


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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Stewart Griffiths
stewartmgriffi...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 Please can you provide feedback on the following website
 http://webprocafe.com/

 We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site, plus
 any general feedback you want to provide.

The sub-nav bar (register, faq, members list) could be combined into a
vertical list and sit in the row above it, between the site title and
the login form. As it is, it's very awkward.

Also, there's a billion links on the page that all point to
webprocafe.com... the two title images, the navigation sections, etc.
Why so many? It takes attention away from the other links.

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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

On 16/1/09 16:41, Stewart Griffiths wrote:

Please can you provide feedback on the following website
http://webprocafe.com/

We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site,
plus any general feedback you want to provide.


Hmm.

Just looked at the homepage.

Pointless XHTML formedness errors, lack of heading elements, table 
layouts, presentational markup, inline styles, obtrusive JavaScript, 
unnecessary browser detection, presentational class names, and a layout 
that begins to break with only two text size steps up (at least in 
Safari) may be byproducts of vBulletin but they undercut the site's 
ostensible purpose of discussing professional web development in a way 
that I find hard to overlook given you've adopted a self-hosted solution 
for the forum.


More subjectively, I think the random bits of sans-serif (menu links at 
the side and some of the menu links at the top) look discordant, the 
lack of contrast between the brown backgrounds and darker brown text may 
make the content hard to read for some users (I'd suggesting using 
coffee text on white instead of brown text on brown), and the icons in 
the left-hand navigation menu look too randomly generic.


Sorry that's harsh, but I hope it helps.

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Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-16 Thread Fred Ballard
Take a look at Sullivan High School's http://www.sullivanhs.org/. As you can
see in the homepage's lower right corner it's from the Chicago Public
Schools, http://www.cps.k12.il.us/, with a company, Educational Networks,
http://www.educationalnetworks.net/, behind it.

Is it too slick? I'm of two minds. It's great that it's a good-looking site,
but it might be nice to let the students be the designers. I don't actually
know what the students think about it, on the other hand.

Fred

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Lane d...@egressive.com wrote:

 Oops - should've been Disclosure rather than Disclaimer :)

 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:21 +1300, David Lane wrote:
  Disclaimer: I've had occasional association with the work being done at
  Hagley, and have been a guest speaker to the computing students on a
  couple occasions :)

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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Stewart Griffiths
Thanks Chris, we will look at that now.

Stew

2009/1/16 Christian Montoya siro...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Stewart Griffiths
 stewartmgriffi...@gmail.com wrote:
  All,
 
  Please can you provide feedback on the following website
  http://webprocafe.com/
 
  We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site, plus
  any general feedback you want to provide.

 The sub-nav bar (register, faq, members list) could be combined into a
 vertical list and sit in the row above it, between the site title and
 the login form. As it is, it's very awkward.

 Also, there's a billion links on the page that all point to
 webprocafe.com... the two title images, the navigation sections, etc.
 Why so many? It takes attention away from the other links.

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Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-16 Thread Bruce
The students are very likely to know more about web standards than whoever did 
these...lol

Bruce
bkdesign solutions

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fred Ballard 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?


  Take a look at Sullivan High School's http://www.sullivanhs.org/. As you can 
see in the homepage's lower right corner it's from the Chicago Public Schools, 
http://www.cps.k12.il.us/, with a company, Educational Networks, 
http://www.educationalnetworks.net/, behind it.

  Is it too slick? I'm of two minds. It's great that it's a good-looking site, 
but it might be nice to let the students be the designers. I don't actually 
know what the students think about it, on the other hand.

  Fred


  On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Lane d...@egressive.com wrote:

Oops - should've been Disclosure rather than Disclaimer :)


On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:21 +1300, David Lane wrote:
 Disclaimer: I've had occasional association with the work being done at
 Hagley, and have been a guest speaker to the computing students on a
 couple occasions :)


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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Andrew Maben

On 16/1/09 16:41, Stewart Griffiths wrote:

Please can you provide feedback on the following website
http://webprocafe.com/

We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site,
plus any general feedback you want to provide.


In the header I see Design, Development, Coffee  [something that  
breaks to the next line and is hidden behind the nav bar]


+1 Benjamin's comments

Subjectively: underwhelmed by the level of professionalism in a site  
apparently aimed at pros (but I do still dream that pro might be  
short for proficient, not just professional. Sadly it seems to me  
that in this field the word professional is applied in the loosest  
possible sense. (Bear with me, this next is NOT an attack on you, or  
your site - you have at least had the humility and good sense to ask  
this group's opinion) but it seems to me that mercenary hack is far  
too often the more appropriate term.


OK rant over, w/ apologies to all...

Andrew

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Re: [WSG] Website review : http://webprocafe.com

2009-01-16 Thread Stewart Griffiths
Harsh is fine, it's a critique / review we asked for ;o)

Got rid of all but one error, which is a vb one, so will work on finding
that. As for breaking when the text is increased, well, as you state this is
due to the way vb spits out the code. But we can work on that going forward.
WE will look at the typography we are using and look to make it consistent
across the site, the background gradiants and the nav icons we will again
look at updating.

Thanks for the feedback, this is all great stuff.

Stew

2009/1/16 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com

 On 16/1/09 16:41, Stewart Griffiths wrote:

 Please can you provide feedback on the following website
 http://webprocafe.com/

 We are looking for thoughts on the design and usability of the site,
 plus any general feedback you want to provide.


 Hmm.

 Just looked at the homepage.

 Pointless XHTML formedness errors, lack of heading elements, table layouts,
 presentational markup, inline styles, obtrusive JavaScript, unnecessary
 browser detection, presentational class names, and a layout that begins to
 break with only two text size steps up (at least in Safari) may be
 byproducts of vBulletin but they undercut the site's ostensible purpose of
 discussing professional web development in a way that I find hard to
 overlook given you've adopted a self-hosted solution for the forum.

 More subjectively, I think the random bits of sans-serif (menu links at the
 side and some of the menu links at the top) look discordant, the lack of
 contrast between the brown backgrounds and darker brown text may make the
 content hard to read for some users (I'd suggesting using coffee text on
 white instead of brown text on brown), and the icons in the left-hand
 navigation menu look too randomly generic.

 Sorry that's harsh, but I hope it helps.

 --
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Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-16 Thread Caleb Wong
Here's a list of some of the education based website done by a perth based
web development company known as itomic.

http://www.itomic.com.au/portfolio/industry/Education

caleb

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sigurd Magnusson
sig...@silverstripe.comwrote:

 Can people offer examples of school websites that lead the way, for
 instance in terms of;

 - interaction between student/parent/school/community
 - allows students to show off work
 - allows students/teachers/parents/community to engage (e.g. see sports
 results, look up when next school theatre production is on, etc).
 - less important, but strong information architecture / usability / visual
 design.

 In otherwords, all the usual sort of stuff that leading private/public
 sector websites have, and that seems all too rare on school websites..

 Sigurd

 PS: I'm not really looking for examples of Moodle / learning management
 systems; more the public-facing side.


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Re: [WSG] Image with borders due to Anchor tag

2009-01-16 Thread Brett Patterson
The question, better explained is, using the above code, why do you have to
apply the CSS attribute, border: none;, to the image tag within the anchor
tag? Rather than using text-decoration: none;, to the anchor tag, like you
would use it to apply to an anchor tag with text in it to remove the
underline.

Observe...

a href=link.html style=text-decoration: none;text is now not
underlined/a
a href=link.htmltext is now underlined/a

As the anchor tag automatically applies the blue, underlined part of the
text, when surrounding an image tag it puts the underline on the image, but
in a blue border form around the image. Why use border: none; to the image
rather than text-decoration: none; to the anchor tag?

If you have a page that needs all the links to have no underline or border
(if an image is a link as well), why would want to have to have to
declarations for that, rather than one? You could have:

a
 {
 text-decoration: none;
 }

a img
 {
 border: none;
 }

but that takes a little more coding. Not that much more but still... you
could have just used the a { text-decoration: none; }.

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Johan Douma johando...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure if I understand the question...
 But it's actually easy to remove the borders from an image in an anchor tag
 using css, not inline.

 a img{
   border:none;
 }

 When that's done, you can do whatever you want with the link or with the
 image.


 Johan Douma
 johando...@gmail.com

 2009/1/16 Brett Patterson inspiron.patters...@gmail.com

 Okay. That makes sense.

 --
 Brett P.


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:52 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.ukwrote:

 Brett Patterson wrote:
  So, my question is this. Why does the image tag have to have the border
  placed on it, instead of placing the border or text-decoration styles
 on
  the anchor tag?

 Consider the case:

 a href=/ img src=/foo alt= Ipsum Ipsum /a

 A border around the entire thing would give a very different effect to a
 border around just the image.

 There's no selector in CSS to select an element based on its descendants
 either.

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