Re: [WSG] Safari 4 and 3.2 Running Simultaneously
The ultimate solution for this kind of thing is always look into virtual machines. Microsoft distributes a WindowsXP VM for web developers to test ie6 rendering in which you could install safari 3.2 in too, and then put IE8 + Safari 4 on the main machine. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Gregorio Espadas gespa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks... I want to install Safari 4 in Microsoft Windows for testing pourposes, but I don't want to dismiss Safari 3.2. I've been searching for a solution (installing Safari 4 without affect the current installation of Safari 3.2), but I didn't find anything. I find out that the Safari 4 installation updates the Webkit Framework, not only the browser itself... so, I guess installing in a different folder won't work. I'm aware that Safari 4 includes a User Agent changer, but I guess this tool is not for rendering, only for masquerade in order to use certain webapps. Any one knows how to accomplish this goal? I'll appreciate any suggestion. Gregorio Espadas *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4
tee wrote: Thanks for checking. Adding the above rule makes the thumbnail unclickable when no thumbnail shows up. If I refresh the browser to make thumbnail shows up, then it's clickable. Yeah, the various Safari versions show very different behavior for the script. - Safari 3.2.x indeed behaves as you describe, but doesn't behave in a stable manner. Extra rule fixes distortion, but Safari's script-engine fails on that script quite often. - New script-engine in Safari 4, and in that version the thumbnail isn't clickable even when the image shows up just fine. The new script-engine seems to fail on that script every time, but very different from the older version. - More as a curiosity: Safari 2 fails in ways more like Safari 4 than like Safari 3. - Other WebKit based browser - those that are not just shells, got their own script-engines and behave just fine. So, Safari is a moving target for scripts, each script-engine version with its own unique failures in your case. Need an expert on jquery and script-engines to work around the problems in that browser, but the extra CSS rule does fix the distortion problem in all Safari versions. Without that rule, empty thumbnail box is still clickable. Not quite so easy, it seems. Note that what you see as empty thumbnail boxes in Safari (without the extra CSS rule) aren't necessarily empty. Those images are just blown up so large, and only the middle-left portion is shown, that the objects end up hidden outside the list-item box. Thus, the image is often there in Safari too, and therefore clickable, even if you can't see the object. Safari fails to load the image just as often with and without the extra CSS rule, so that rule doesn't seem to have any negative effects. Find someone who can fix Safari's various script-engines, and once the loading and layering works in all Safari versions you can find out if the extra CSS rule is necessary to fix the distortion problem. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] bluring vertical dotted border is bluring
I am putting together this template and for some reason in IE the first vertical dotted border has areas in it that look bold, Can anyone see why? http://eyecatcher.xtools.co.nz/ Thank you. Robin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] bluring vertical dotted border is bluring
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Robin Gorry wrote: I am putting together this template and for some reason in IE the first vertical dotted border has areas in it that look bold, Can anyone see why? http://eyecatcher.xtools.co.nz/ Before you do anything else, fix the HTML errors in the file. http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Feyecatcher.xtools.co.nz%2F -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com = Do not reply to the From: address; use Reply-To: Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Reset Forms
Hi Todd Sorry for not responding to your query sooner. I suggest approaching your form with the question: what actions will users of this form want to perform and providing those actions. As Susan mentioned, there are times when a Reset makes a lot of sense. I would also argue that while users can close a window to effectively cancel an online form that they are filling in, many (non-expert) users will not necessarily be aware of this option, or comfortable that their application has actually been cancelled. Providing an explicit cancel button helps provide that user control and reassurance. (I'm not a programmer, so I can't be sure of this, but I think having a cancel allows you to explicitly end that session too, freeing up server space.) I do agree with Luke that actions secondary to the main one should have different visual styling. They can be a different colour, be spaced separately from the primary action or be links rather than buttons. And of course you want to support the principle of error recovery, so confirm any cancel or reset before applying the action. Hope this helps. If you want more input, I suggest emailing the Business Forms Management Association members via their mailing list, Formspace. You don't have to be a BFMA member to use Formspace. Details are here: http://www.bfma.org/formspace/main.htm. Cheers Jessica Enders Principal Formulate Information Design http://formulate.com.au Phone: (02) 6116 8765 Fax: (02) 8456 5916 PO Box 5108 Braddon ACT 2612 On 24/02/2009, at 4:03 AM, Todd Budnikas wrote: A question came up today inquiring about a design my company has recently completed. There is currently in the design an option to reset the form on one of the pages. Does anyone have any opinions on the usefulness of that feature, or statistics on whether or not people use it? Luke Wroblewski argues that actions like Reset and Cancel are unnecessary and should be either removed or de-emphasized in the user interface to avoid mistakes. http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/webforms/blog/undo_a_reset_form/ I tend to agree. However, I think Cancel can be useful. Thoughts on form resetting, cancel options and usability? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
