RE: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread raven
Hi. If a website client of yours hired you to manage an actual storefront and you arbitrarily slammed the door in the face of every 100th, 200th, or even 1000th customer, how long do you think would you keep your job? If some js feature bring me 100 costumers i can effort loose 1, which don't

Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread nedlud
Out of curiosity, what sort of feature are you talking about that can't be done server side (ie, *without* AJAX)? I'll confess to relying heavily on server side JS on some projects, but I did so because I knew those apps would be used exclusively on an intranet where the SOE was known to support

Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread Andrew Stewart
I think the point is if you should be spending time developing something with a bad user experience that hardly anyone will use. Yes you could implement a spreadsheet app with tons of page requests, but the user experience would be so bad that people probably wouldn't want to use it. On

Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

2009-06-15 Thread Ido dekkers
thanks guys, the #tr... method didn't work for me before because of a stupid syntax error on my side : ( works like a charm now. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Andrew Stewart a...@universalsprout.comwrote: On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:05, matt andrews wrote: Here's a number for you: when I added

Re: [WSG] IE7 wraps lines in table for no apparent reason ?

2009-06-15 Thread Ido dekkers
thanks again - works like a charm On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM, raven rav...@mail.ru wrote: Hi. If you want prohibit text wrap in column, you may use CSS rule. td{ white-space: nowrap; } Regards. Raven aka Silent Imp.

Re: Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread raven
Hi. Out of curiosity, what sort of feature are you talking about that can't be done server side (ie, *without* AJAX)? As a matter of fact, you right. Without AJAX (in any form) server side scripting remains intact and matter disappears. My front end development order: 1. XHTML coding of

Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

2009-06-15 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/14/2009 06:02 PM, Andrew Stewart wrote: If you can improve the user experience using JS (why else would you be spending time on it) then you must accept that the user experience for those 10% without JS is going to be worse and hence they are less likely to buy from you, or give you some

Re: [WSG] returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div

2009-06-15 Thread Andrew Stewart
I agree with you on pretty much everything. My point is that I wish there was more detailed analysis of users with JS etc. Lets take the example of a social networking site that earns revenue by pay per click advertising. If we assume that maybe 10% of users don't have JS, it is also

[WSG] OT: Dominos Pizza - Looking for someone who's worked there

2009-06-15 Thread Mike Kear
This is off-topic for this list so please respond direct to me rather than the list ... I'm looking to have a quick chat to someone who's worked at Dominos Pizza some time in the last 5 years - not necessarily in the IT area - even someone who's delivered pizzas would do. But if you've worked

Re: [WSG] OT: Dominos Pizza - Looking for someone who's worked there

2009-06-15 Thread Eyemax Studios
Easiest way. Order a Pizza from them, then when the delivery person arrives, refuse to pay until they answer you question. You'll have your answer in about 30 mins, hehe. Mike Kear wrote: This is off-topic for this list so please respond direct to me rather than the list ... I'm

Re: [WSG] OT: Dominos Pizza - Looking for someone who's worked there

2009-06-15 Thread Andrew Boyd
...and if anyone knows who designed the dominos.com.au online ordering system, please let me know. I'd like to have a quiet word with them :) Cheers, Andrew Andrew Boyd faci...@gmail.com http://uxbookclub.org -- connect, read, discuss On 16/06/2009, at 10:51 AM, Mike Kear