RE: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-07-02 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
 While I agree with your general sentiment, I have to say I find the
 assertion that all people aged 35-40 or more are for all intents and
 purposes [...] web disabled and [...] in immediate need of web
 accessibility questionable, to say the least.
 
 I'd be careful of overstating the case like this, as it can undermine
 the whole argument.

The technical term is presbyopia, a physical inability of the lens of the 
eye to focus properly.  Specifically, the lens loses its elasticity and 
ability to properly focus on near objects.  It is a natural  course of 
aging.  Onset is often between the ages of 40-50, however, it has been 
seen at earlier ages.  In web terms, one's ability to obtain information 
from computer monitors (web pages) will decrease as one ages, without 
correction.  The normal method of correction is bifocal lenses, even 
trifocal lenses in some cases.  As pointed out in another email in this 
thread, taking advantage of a browser's magnifications abilities through 
accessibility coding techniques is an excellent example to address this.

It's rather difficult to overstate the issue when over the course of time, 
presbyopia is pretty much 100 percent universal within the human 
population.


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Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-02 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/07/02 08:46 (GMT-0700) Dennis Lapcewich composed:

 The technical term is presbyopia, a physical inability of the lens of the 
 eye to focus properly.  Specifically, the lens loses its elasticity and 
 ability to properly focus on near objects.  It is a natural  course of 
 aging.  Onset is often between the ages of 40-50, however, it has been 
 seen at earlier ages.  In web terms, one's ability to obtain information 
 from computer monitors (web pages) will decrease as one ages, without 
 correction.  The normal method of correction is bifocal lenses, even 
 trifocal lenses in some cases.  As pointed out in another email in this 
 thread, taking advantage of a browser's magnifications abilities through 
 accessibility coding techniques is an excellent example to address this.

Zoom, minimum text size and magnifiers are defense mechanisms. The basic
problem is the pervasive offense - not respecting users' font size choices by
incorporating them at 100% for the bulk of content. Thus, an even better way
to address presbyopia is to design to make defenses unnecessary in the first
place.

 It's rather difficult to overstate the issue when over the course of time, 
 presbyopia is pretty much 100 percent universal within the human 
 population.
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Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-02 Thread Rick Faircloth
But how will you magnify the images and layout as designed for me to view?
Addressing font issues is only the absolute basic attempt to make the web
more accessible...It's important to be able to see how something is said
and with
what supporting content and context, rather than just what is said.

Focusing on font-size is quite an antiquated, limited view of accessiblity.

Magnification of entire monitor screens (not just decreasing resolution),
and
browser magnification address all the issues, and in a very satisfying and
simple manner,
rather than asking/requiring web designers/developers to spend countless
hours
trying to code around the issues.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:

 On 2009/07/02 08:46 (GMT-0700) Dennis Lapcewich composed:

  The technical term is presbyopia, a physical inability of the lens of the
  eye to focus properly.  Specifically, the lens loses its elasticity and
  ability to properly focus on near objects.  It is a natural  course of
  aging.  Onset is often between the ages of 40-50, however, it has been
  seen at earlier ages.  In web terms, one's ability to obtain information
  from computer monitors (web pages) will decrease as one ages, without
  correction.  The normal method of correction is bifocal lenses, even
  trifocal lenses in some cases.  As pointed out in another email in this
  thread, taking advantage of a browser's magnifications abilities through
  accessibility coding techniques is an excellent example to address this.

 Zoom, minimum text size and magnifiers are defense mechanisms. The basic
 problem is the pervasive offense - not respecting users' font size choices
 by
 incorporating them at 100% for the bulk of content. Thus, an even better
 way
 to address presbyopia is to design to make defenses unnecessary in the
 first
 place.

  It's rather difficult to overstate the issue when over the course of
 time,
  presbyopia is pretty much 100 percent universal within the human
  population.
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Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-02 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 But how will you magnify the images and layout as designed for me to view?
 Addressing font issues is only the absolute basic attempt to make the web
 more accessible...It's important to be able to see how something is said
 and with
 what supporting content and context, rather than just what is said.
 
 Focusing on font-size is quite an antiquated, limited view of accessiblity.

 It is the sine qua non of accessibility. It's not the only issue,
 but it is the most basic.

 Magnification of entire monitor screens (not just decreasing resolution),
 and
 browser magnification address all the issues, and in a very satisfying and
 simple manner,
 rather than asking/requiring web designers/developers to spend countless
 hours
 trying to code around the issues.

 There is no issue to code around. The only issue is
 overspecifying sizes which leads to inaccessible pages. Less is
 more.

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Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-02 Thread Rick Faircloth
 It is the sine qua non of accessibility

And that's exactly the point I'm trying to make...just addressing the
font-size issue
is the most basic form of accomodation possible.  We can do better.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson c...@freeshell.orgwrote:

 On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Rick Faircloth wrote:

  But how will you magnify the images and layout as designed for me to
 view?
  Addressing font issues is only the absolute basic attempt to make the web
  more accessible...It's important to be able to see how something is
 said
  and with
  what supporting content and context, rather than just what is said.
 
  Focusing on font-size is quite an antiquated, limited view of
 accessiblity.

 It is the sine qua non of accessibility. It's not the only issue,
 but it is the most basic.

  Magnification of entire monitor screens (not just decreasing resolution),
  and
  browser magnification address all the issues, and in a very satisfying
 and
  simple manner,
  rather than asking/requiring web designers/developers to spend countless
  hours
  trying to code around the issues.

 There is no issue to code around. The only issue is
 overspecifying sizes which leads to inaccessible pages. Less is
 more.

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[WSG] Fieldset and Legend

2009-07-02 Thread CK

Hi,

After reading the specification, it appears that the elements  
fieldset and legend are used to denote groups of related form  
fields. However, I can across the following code
at surf the channel which appears to use it as a decorative element.  
Does the following usage, contradict the CSS specification?



CK

fieldset class=basic
legendChoose a channel/legend

ul class=channels
lia href=/cat/61391.html title=Animals channelAnimals a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61391-latest.xml title=Animals  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61477.html title=Anime channelAnime a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61477-latest.xml title=Anime  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61392.html title=Art  Animation channelArt  
amp; Animation a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61392-latest.xml  
title=Art  Animation channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61394.html title=Auto-Moto channelAuto-Moto a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61394-latest.xml title=Auto-Moto  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61395.html title=College  Education  
channelCollege amp; Education a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61395- 
latest.xml title=College  Education channelnbsp;/a/a/li


lia href=/cat/61396.html title=Culture and Style  
channelCulture and Style a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61396- 
latest.xml title=Culture and Style channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61482.html title=Documentary channelDocumentary  
a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61482-latest.xml title=Documentary  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61397.html title=Film  Movies channelFilm amp;  
Movies a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61397-latest.xml title=Film   
Movies channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61398.html title=Funny channelFunny a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61398-latest.xml title=Funny  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61399.html title=Gaming channelGaming a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61399-latest.xml title=Gaming  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61400.html title=Life  Style channelLife amp;  
Style a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61400-latest.xml title=Life   
Style channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61401.html title=Music channelMusic a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61401-latest.xml title=Music  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li


lia href=/cat/61402.html title=News, Gossip  Politics  
channelNews, Gossip amp; Politics a class=rss-chan href=/rss/ 
61402-latest.xml title=News, Gossip  Politics channelnbsp;/a/ 
a/li
lia href=/cat/61403.html title=People  Family channelPeople  
amp; Family a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61403-latest.xml  
title=People  Family channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61404.html title=Sports channelSports a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61404-latest.xml title=Sports  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61405.html title=Tech  Gaming channelTech amp;  
Gaming a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61405-latest.xml title=Tech   
Gaming channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61406.html title=Television channelTelevision a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61406-latest.xml title=Television  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li
lia href=/cat/61407.html title=Travel channelTravel a  
class=rss-chan href=/rss/61407-latest.xml title=Travel  
channelnbsp;/a/a/li


lia href=/cat/61408.html title=Webcam  Vlogs channelWebcam  
amp; Vlogs a class=rss-chan href=/rss/61408-latest.xml  
title=Webcam  Vlogs channelnbsp;/a/a/li

/ul

/fieldset
/div


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Re: [WSG] Fieldset and Legend

2009-07-02 Thread David Dorward

CK wrote:

Hi,

After reading the specification, it appears that the elements 
fieldset and legend are used to denote groups of related form 
fields. However, I can across the following code
at surf the channel which appears to use it as a decorative element. 
Does the following usage, contradict the CSS specification?
No. It contradicts the HTML specification (multiple times, since you 
aren't allowed nested anchor elements either).


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Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-02 Thread Matijs

 I frequently have to work with pixel-perfect design


http://aspnetresources.com/blog/dear_art_director.aspx


 , and I'm always having trouble with line-height in particular. Please take
 a look at this example: http://www.hellobenlau.net/wsg/index.html

 http://www.hellobenlau.net/wsg/index.html

 I'm wondering if there was a way to top align the text to its line-height.
 So say, with text size 20px, could the top of the 'T' be aligned to the top
 of the pink box?
 How does the 'gap' above and below the text gets calculated?


 As far as I know, browsers always render a bit of extra space above
and below to allow for accents, descenders, ascenders and such. Please
bear in mind that users tend to like line-heights of 1.2 or a bit
bigger. If you can, try to introduce a vertical rhythm in your texts
and your users will thank you even more :)


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Re: [WSG] Fieldset and Legend

2009-07-02 Thread Tim Snadden


On 3/07/2009, at 8:48 AM, CK wrote:


Hi,

After reading the specification, it appears that the elements  
fieldset and legend are used to denote groups of related form  
fields. However, I can across the following code
at surf the channel which appears to use it as a decorative element.  
Does the following usage, contradict the CSS specification?


fieldset and legend are form elements so yes, unless they are used to  
differentiate sections of a form they are being misused.



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Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Novitski

At 7/1/2009 07:19 PM, Ben Lau wrote:
This is what I'm trying to achieve: 
http://hellobenlau.net/wsg/eg.gifhttp://hellobenlau.net/wsg/eg.gif
So there'll be a div with padding top and bottom of 20px, and with 
text inside.



This doesn't look to me like a line-height topic at all. If you 
increase the line-height, the lines of text within each paragraph 
will separate from one another, and that isn't what your gif 
illustrates. It looks more like a (default) line-height of 1.


Instead, this looks like a simple matter of applying padding  
margins to the wrapper div its paragraphs.


Now, if we're to take your gif literally, it looks like you've got 
17px between the two paragraphs.  That implies:


div
{
padding-top: 20px;
padding-bottom: 3px;
}
div p
{
margin-bottom: 17px;
}

div
20px
psome text/p
17px
psome more text/p
17px
 3px
/div

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[WSG] Print Preview Cut off after 1pg

2009-07-02 Thread Kristine Cummins
I implemented a style sheet and works fine, however all pages are being cut
off after one page. Any idears?

 

Site: http://wfdj.sbw.org/
CSS: http://wfdj.sbw.org/m/styles-print.css

 

Thank you!
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[WSG] CLARIFICATION: Print Preview Cut off after 1pg

2009-07-02 Thread Kristine Cummins
I implemented a style sheet and works fine, however all pages are being cut
off after one page. Any idears? It is doing it in Mozilla but IE is fine.

 

A page with more than 1 page content: http://wfdj.sbw.org/artists/
CSS: http://wfdj.sbw.org/m/styles-print.css

 

Thank you!
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Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-02 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/07/02 15:20 (GMT-0400) Rick Faircloth composed:

 Felix Miata wrote:

 Zoom, minimum text size and magnifiers are defense mechanisms. The basic
  problem is the pervasive offense - not respecting users' font size
 choices by incorporating them at 100% for the bulk of content. Thus, an
 even better way to address presbyopia is to design to make defenses
 unnecessary in the first place.

 It's rather difficult to overstate the issue when over the course of time,
 presbyopia is pretty much 100 percent universal within the human 
 population.

 But how will you magnify the images and layout as designed for me to view?

Respectful design obviates the need.

 Addressing font issues is only the absolute basic attempt to make the web
 more accessible...It's important to be able to see how something is
 said and with what supporting content and context, rather than just what
 is said.

It certainly is important to be able to see. Thus, you're creating the
handicap that needs the defense mechanism when you make it harder to see by
sizing text smaller than the visitor's preference. With the exception of
background images, other objects besides the text when sized with reference
to the text size automatically adjusted as necessary. Context is thus
preserved - automatically, by the web browser.

 Focusing on font-size is quite an antiquated, limited view of
 accessiblity.

It's the foundational starting point from which everything else can and
_should_ be referenced. The visitor has presumptively set that point before
reaching any web site, and it can work well if the designer/coder accepts
whatever that may happen to be. The designer/coder does that by dispensing
with the px unit for sizing, replacing it with the visitor's preset point of
reference: the em unit.

 Magnification of entire monitor screens (not just decreasing resolution), 
 and browser magnification address all the issues, and in a very satisfying
 and simple manner, rather than asking/requiring web designers/developers
 to spend countless hours trying to code around the issues.

By dispensing with the impossible to achieve goal of pixel perfection, and
using em instead of px to size, the only thing to work around is how to size
background images. That is often very easily worked around by simply not
using background images.
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RE: [WSG] CLARIFICATION: Print Preview Cut off after 1pg

2009-07-02 Thread Kepler Gelotte
 I implemented a style sheet and works fine, however all pages are being
cut off after one page. Any idears? It is doing it in Mozilla but IE is
fine.

 

Hi,

 

Have you tried removing the overflow:hidden from the rules? I would start
with the container classes.

Best regards,

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Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.

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Re: [WSG] Print Preview Cut off after 1pg

2009-07-02 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Kristine Cummins wrote:
I implemented a style sheet and works fine, however all pages are being 
cut off after one page. Any idears?


 


Site: http://wfdj.sbw.org/
CSS: http://wfdj.sbw.org/m/styles-print.css


From what I remember, the culprit is usually floating. Try removing the 
main big floats (for the navigation, content, etc) in your styles and 
see if that helps.


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[WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Darrin Potaka
Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to author to good
standards...
I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3. The
multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install - are there
any other options?
Darrin


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Re: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Ben Lau
I came across this, but I'm a bit wary of any hidden downsides to it:
http://www.xenocode.com/Browsers/

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Darrin Potaka dpot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to author to good
 standards...
 I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3. The
 multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install - are there
 any other options?
 Darrin

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Re: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Smith


Hi Darrin,

I use the Internet Explorer Collection (http://finalbuilds.edskes.net/iecollection.htm) from Edskes - it struggles with the really version 4 but is usually pretty up to date


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RE: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Anna Vester
From: Darrin Potaka [mailto:dpot...@gmail.com] 
Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to author to good
standards...
I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3. The
multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install - are there
any other options?
Darrin
++

 

I believe you are better of installing a Virtual PC machine and testing it
that way. Typically, multiple installer doesn't reflect the actuality (1).
Here is a link to download a virtual PC -
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Anna

 

(1)  Many developers caution that since the innards of IE have been
tinkered with a bit, there is a possibility that what you see in a
standalone IE does not completely match what a person using that version of
IE as his full install will really see. There are no confirmed reports of
inconsistencies, and the standalone old versions of IE do show the confirmed
bugs of old versions, but it is a possible risk, if a small one.  
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=8897D



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Re: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Caleb Wong
I've been using browser sandbox by xenocode and i find it quite pleasant.
Try it.

Theres standard IE6 - 8 plus Google Chrome, Firefox 2,3 and Safari.

http://www.xenocode.com/browsers

Cheers
Caleb


On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Darrin Potaka dpot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to author to good
 standards...
 I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3. The
 multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install - are there
 any other options?
 Darrin

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RE: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to author to good
standards...
I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3. The
multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install - are there
any other options?
Darrin


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RE: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Hargreaves, Michael
Typically, multiple installer doesn't reflect the actuality
I definitely agree with this, you just cant be sure that what you're
viewing is accurate. Multiple installer products work ok but you can
never really be sure that you're using the complete engine for that
version. 
 
Here's another option to virtual PC which I use. I haven;t used Virtual
PC in some time so I can;t really give a good comparison. 
But if it makes a difference Virtual box has no connection with
Microsoft.
http://www.virtualbox.org/
 
 

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Subject: RE: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6



From: Darrin Potaka [mailto:dpot...@gmail.com] 
Hi - I hope this is on topic - I'm asking because I try to
author to good standards...
I need to install IE 6.0 alongside of IE 8. Running WIN XP SP 3.
The multiple installer at TredoSoft which used to work wont install -
are there any other options?
Darrin
++

 

I believe you are better of installing a Virtual PC machine and
testing it that way. Typically, multiple installer doesn't reflect the
actuality (1). Here is a link to download a virtual PC -
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Anna

 

(1)  Many developers caution that since the innards of IE have
been tinkered with a bit, there is a possibility that what you see in a
standalone IE does not completely match what a person using that version
of IE as his full install will really see. There are no confirmed
reports of inconsistencies, and the standalone old versions of IE do
show the confirmed bugs of old versions, but it is a possible risk, if a
small one.  
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=8897D



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Re: [WSG] Installing More than one version of IE6

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Harris

Hargreaves, Michael wrote:

Here's another option to virtual PC which I use. I haven;t used Virtual 
PC in some time so I can;t really give a good comparison.

But if it makes a difference Virtual box has no connection with Microsoft.
http://www.virtualbox.org/


I second VirtualBox (which has just released v3). I use it on physical 
OSX, Linux and WinXP machines to provide multiple virtual machines 
running different versions of Windows (3.1 through to XP - I don't test 
for Vista) and various service pack and browser variations. I also run 
(sometimes) virtual Ubuntu servers to be test hosts - wholse networks 
inside one closed system ;-)


It's awesome.


~mark


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