[WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread designer

Hi all,

Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code 
'usage' that is simple.  I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put a 
left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220;  Which is recommended?


Any help, links etc most welcome. (I have googled, but . . .)

Thanks,

Bob 





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Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread Алексей Тен
quot; and #8220; are not the same. quot; is #34;

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 13:08,
designerdesig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code
 'usage' that is simple.  I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put a
 left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220;  Which is recommended?

 Any help, links etc most welcome. (I have googled, but . . .)

 Thanks,

 Bob



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RE: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread Foskett, Mike
http://websemantics.co.uk/resources/common_symbols/

Mike


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Sent: 10 July 2009 10:08
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Back to basics!

Hi all,

Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code
'usage' that is simple.  I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put a
left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220;  Which is recommended?

Any help, links etc most welcome. (I have googled, but . . .)

Thanks,

Bob




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RE: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread michael.brockington
One of the main points of using Unicode is that you don't need to use
entities, other than for a handful of chars used by HTML.
 
I always keep a good reference handy, so that I can copy and paste
straight into my files, the one I use is:
http://www.calcresult.com/reference/text/unicode-reference.html

But there are plenty of others, though not many are as comprehensive as
that one.

Regards,
Mike


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On Behalf Of designer
Sent: 10 July 2009 10:08
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Back to basics!

Hi all,

Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code
'usage' that is simple.  I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put
a left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220;  Which is
recommended?

Any help, links etc most welcome. (I have googled, but . . .)

Thanks,

Bob 




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Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread David Dorward

designer wrote:

Hi all,

Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character 
code 'usage' that is simple. I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want 
to put a left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220; Which is 
recommended?

Neither.

quot; will give you a straight quote (which you don't want).
#8220; is hard to read when you are editing your source (and takes up 7 
bytes).

Just use “, it *is* in UTF-8 after all.

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http://dorward.me.uk/


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[WSG] IE7 scrollbar problem

2009-07-10 Thread Andrew Maben
I have spent a lot of time Googling this problem with no luck. I  
suspect it may be one of those things that are so obvious I just  
can't see. So I'm turning to the list for help.


The page in question is: http://spark.andrewmaben.com/index.php? 
page=information and the CSS is at http://spark.andrewmaben.com/ 
resources/sparks2.css (Specifically line 655 ff).


In IE7 (and I imagine other versions) when clicking on the Schools  
tab in the center panel, the school info appears with no scrollbar, a  
second click magically reveals both horizontal and vertical  
scrollbars, and clicking on another tab and then re-clicking  
Schools reveals a vertical scrollbar (the desired result). Works  
fine in Safari/Mac, Firefox/Mac/PC. HTML is valid 4.01 strict. There  
are CSS errors due to the use of some proprietary properties, but I  
don't think they are a factor.


The Schools panel has a table contained within a fixed height div  
with overflow:auto. The Other panel, with a paragraph with  
overflow:auto is fine in IE7.


I'd really appreciate any suggestions.

(And yes, I know - mea culpa, I fell back on a layout table to hold  
the Weather).


Thanks,


Andrew Maben

www.andrewmaben.net
and...@andrewmaben.com

In a well designed user interface, the user should not need  
instructions.







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RE: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread Paul Novitski



Could anyone tell me where there is information regarding character code
'usage' that is simple.  I always use UTF-8 and, e.g., if I want to put
a left quote in my text I can use quot; or #8220;  Which is
recommended?

...

One of the main points of using Unicode is that you don't need to use
entities, other than for a handful of chars used by HTML.



Yes! Using UTF-8 in your web pages means NOT having to use HTML 
entities for text such as #241; or ecirc;. The only HTML entities 
you need to use in your character data are amp; for '' ampersand, 
lt; for '' less-than, and gt; for '' greater-than so that those 
characters don't confuse the HTML parser.


To get you started, two basic rules are:

1) Save your HTML/PHP files with UTF-8 character encoding. In many 
text editors there's a character encoding option in the Save As dialog.


2) Declare UTF-8 as the character encoding in the HTML header, e.g.:

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /

(XHTML has different character set declarations than HTML.)

For more details see Richard Ishida's W3C Internationalization pages 
at http://www.w3.org/International/


Regards,

Paul
__

Paul Novitski
Juniper Webcraft Ltd.
http://juniperwebcraft.com 




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