RE: [WSG] CSS list-style

2009-10-07 Thread michael.brockington
Chris,
I am not sure what system you tested this on, but it doesn't work on any
system I tried, and indeed it shouldn't: the marker is a part of the LI
not of the UL.

Regards,
Mike

Mike Brockington
Web Development Specialist

www.calcResult.com
www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk
www.edinburgh.gov.uk

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-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson
Sent: 06 October 2009 19:00
To: wsg
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS list-style

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Richard Mather wrote:


ul
 li class=blackcontent/li
/ul
 
ul {
color:#380;
list-style-type:disc;
}

ul li.black {
color:#000;
}



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Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

2009-10-07 Thread designer


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From: Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson.com

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Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats




  Is this what you want: http://cfajohnson.com/testing/floatdivs.shtml ?

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Well Chris, I'm intrigued!

I took your example (which is exactly what I wanted!) and changed your a's 
and b's to my own, and it works a treat (almost).  See here:


http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html

I cannot get my head around why this should work, and my own didn't!  Must 
be something to do with the order of stuff.


However, I put a border around the elastic div (so it can be seen) and it is 
perfect in IE7, but is full width if FF3.  What's going on here?


Duh.

Bob 






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[Spam] :Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

2009-10-07 Thread designer

I forgot to include a link to my own (failed) attempt:

http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/header_floats.html

Bob




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Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

2009-10-07 Thread Lesley Lutomski

Hi Bob,

I think it must be something odd about IE7.  I've just tried your link 
in FF3 and Galeon on Linux, and FF3, IE8, Safari 4 and Opera 10 on 
Windows.  In every case the border appears around the entire masthead, 
not just the third div.


Lesley

designer wrote:


- Original Message - From: Chris F.A. Johnson 
ch...@cfajohnson.com

To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats




  Is this what you want: http://cfajohnson.com/testing/floatdivs.shtml ?

--
  Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com




Well Chris, I'm intrigued!

I took your example (which is exactly what I wanted!) and changed your 
a's and b's to my own, and it works a treat (almost).  See here:


http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html

I cannot get my head around why this should work, and my own didn't!  
Must be something to do with the order of stuff.


However, I put a border around the elastic div (so it can be seen) and 
it is perfect in IE7, but is full width if FF3.  What's going on here?


Duh.

Bob




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[WSG] My site

2009-10-07 Thread Marvin Hunkin
Hi.
looking to fix my site.
have not got around to it yet.
doing other projects and now iwll get to it tomorrow.
now how do i make all the images the same size.
Do i get rid of the banana images and the second menu.
only one set of links.
On the credits page, do i get rid of the p link from the list of links.
and just have a a href= ...html?
cheers Marvin. 




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RE: [WSG] CSS list-style

2009-10-07 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote:

 Chris,
 I am not sure what system you tested this on, but it doesn't work on any
 system I tried, and indeed it shouldn't: the marker is a part of the LI
 not of the UL.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#propdef-list-style-type

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
HTML
   HEAD
 TITLELowercase latin numbering/TITLE
 STYLE type=text/css
  ol { list-style-type: lower-roman }   
 /STYLE
  /HEAD
  BODY
OL
  LI This is the first item.
  LI This is the second item.
  LI This is the third item.
/OL
  /BODY
/HTML


 
 -Original Message-
 From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
 On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson
 Sent: 06 October 2009 19:00
 To: wsg
 Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS list-style
 
 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Richard Mather wrote:
 
 
 ul
  li class=blackcontent/li
 /ul
  
 ul {
 color:#380;
 list-style-type:disc;
 }
 
 ul li.black {
 color:#000;
 }
 
 
 
 

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[WSG] My Site

2009-10-07 Thread Marvin Hunkin
my site still errorshi.
take a look at http://startrekcafe.alacorncomputer.com
still errors.
and okay will go and download the vision australia color tester and see what 
colors they say for the background.
okay will go and vallidate the hoem page.
did fix the table reading problem.
it was the screen reader table setting for ie, which was giving me grief on 
the home page.
did not set my table layout settings to screen layout.
now the table reads fine.
and also what other changes i should make to make this a slicker site.
any good, bad or ugly feedback would be fine and making final changes.
I am blind and use a screen reader, and want this to be tarted for blind and 
sighted users.
looking forward to your feedback.
cheers Marvin. 




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[WSG] Best book for learning PHP

2009-10-07 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all,

I really need to get better at PHP  MYSQL, mainly for customising Wordpress. 
I'm scouring Amazon and the interweb and finding conflicting opinions. I was 
just wondering what any of the experts on here recommend?!

PS - this isn't off topic, right?!

Cheers
Paul


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RE: [WSG] My Site

2009-10-07 Thread Raul Ferrer
Hi there!

I have experience building sites for blind people, but have absolutely no
idea how a blind person builds a website.

As for your website, the first thing I'd do is reduce the image of the mango
because that's 3264 x 2448 pixels worth of mango and it's way too much.

Secondly I'd try to get rid of all tables for the code. I don't know if
you're using a program or you're coding by hand, but screen reader don't
deal perfectly (and even less equally) with tables, so it'd be a great idea
to try using XHTML and CSS for presentational purposes.

And finally, colorwise, you should think of changing the links colors,
because you have green over green and it doesn't validate the AAA WCAG2
specification.

Other than that, it should be fine.
Congrats, 'cause I can't believe I could do any of this without my vision.

Cheers

Raul

-Mensaje original-
De: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] En
nombre de Marvin Hunkin
Enviado el: miƩrcoles, 07 de octubre de 2009 14:06
Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Asunto: [WSG] My Site

my site still errorshi.
take a look at http://startrekcafe.alacorncomputer.com
still errors.
and okay will go and download the vision australia color tester and see what

colors they say for the background.
okay will go and vallidate the hoem page.
did fix the table reading problem.
it was the screen reader table setting for ie, which was giving me grief on 
the home page.
did not set my table layout settings to screen layout.
now the table reads fine.
and also what other changes i should make to make this a slicker site.
any good, bad or ugly feedback would be fine and making final changes.
I am blind and use a screen reader, and want this to be tarted for blind and

sighted users.
looking forward to your feedback.
cheers Marvin. 




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Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

2009-10-07 Thread designer

HI Lesley,

re: http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html

I wonder why IE is the only one that gets it right?  Fascinating.

Bob
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From: Lesley Lutomski ubu...@webaflame.co.uk

To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats




Hi Bob,

I think it must be something odd about IE7.  I've just tried your link 
in FF3 and Galeon on Linux, and FF3, IE8, Safari 4 and Opera 10 on 
Windows.  In every case the border appears around the entire masthead, 
not just the third div.


Lesley







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Re[2]: [WSG] elasticity and floats

2009-10-07 Thread Martin Heiden
Hi Bob!

  May I add another wrapper div? Try the following. Probably you want
  to tweak some withs and margins.

Regards,

  Martin.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleTest/title
style type=text/css
#outer {
border: 1px solid red;
width: 50%;
}
#inner {
margin-left: 250px;
margin-right: 100px;
}
#adleft1 {
float: left; 
width: 100px;
height: 100px;
margin-left: -250px;
background: #c00;
}
#adleft2 {
float: left;
width: 100px;
height: 100px;
margin-left: -100px;
background: #0c0;
}
#adcenter {
height: 100px;
background: #00c;
margin: 0 -1px;
}
#adright {
float: right;
width: 100px;
height: 100px;
margin-right: -100px;
background: #c00;
}
/style
/head

body
div id=outer
div id=inner
div id=adleft1/div
div id=adleft2/div
div id=adright/div
div id=adcenter/div
/div
/div
/body
/html


Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 7:28:33 PM, you wrote:

d HI Lesley,

d re: http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html

d I wonder why IE is the only one that gets it right?  Fascinating.

d Bob
d - Original Message - 
d From: Lesley Lutomski ubu...@webaflame.co.uk
d To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
d Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:22 PM
d Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats


 
 Hi Bob,
 
 I think it must be something odd about IE7.  I've just tried your link 
 in FF3 and Galeon on Linux, and FF3, IE8, Safari 4 and Opera 10 on 
 Windows.  In every case the border appears around the entire masthead, 
 not just the third div.
 
 Lesley
 





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 Martin



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RE: [WSG] CSS list-style

2009-10-07 Thread Mark Henderson
Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
 ul
  li class=blackcontent/li
 /ul

 ul {
 color:#380;
 list-style-type:disc;
 }

 ul li.black {
 color:#000;
 }

Then apparently Michael Brockington wrote:
 Chris,
 I am not sure what system you tested this on, but it doesn't work on 
 any system I tried, and indeed it shouldn't: the marker is a part of 
 the LI not of the UL.


I believe the problem with this is that the list-style-type is inherited
(it's fine to place it on the UL/OL), so with that last rule you find
both the text and the bullet are black. IIRC there's no easy way around
this apart from using an image or a span, as you are already aware.


HTH
Mark



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