[WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread designer
Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers but is picked up by screen readers? It seems a can of worms - I've searched and read about it, but (of course) it is impossible to find out which way is recommended by real world web

Re: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Nancy Johnson
Might I suggest article from Webaim.org http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/ Don't forget about the mobility impaired user as well. Nancy On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote: Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav'

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
I always point people to http://blackwidows.co.uk/. The links are accessible to screen readers and are displayed when they have focus so they are accessible to sighted users who use keyboard navigation. _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2009-10-28 Thread Richard Mather
Hi Bob, According to Wikipedia, the UK Government recommends accesskey=s for skip nav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_key#Use_of_standard_access_key_mappings Rich 2009/10/29 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org * WEB STANDARDS

Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2009-10-28 Thread ピエールランリ・ラヴィン
Actually is not enough. Accesskey is a good way about the accessibility, but it's not completed. I didn't check the latest WCAG and the latest version of screen readers but: * Keyboards shortcuts depend from the UA (the specifications didn't define it) * Users may define preferences keys *

[WSG] Accessibility and HTML Emails

2009-10-28 Thread kris wright
Hi everyone, I work in a small web shop in Canada. We have recently been discussing HTML formatted emails, and accessibility standards or best practices. We have been struggling a little bit, as we often work with WCAG 1 and 2 as baseline standards for web page accessibility. However, WCAG

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and HTML Emails

2009-10-28 Thread S.R. Emerson
You can have a look at The Email Standards Project http://www.email-standards.org/ for information. Also, if you want to build a set of guidelines that will work in the future, you might want to read these two: Microsoft to ignore web standards in Outlook 2010 - enough is enough

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Mark Huppert
Steve One way to do it is make a transparent gif of 1px x 1px. Then embed that in your link with no text. Have an ALT or a TITLE with 'skip navigation' a href=#top img title=Skip navigation alt=Skip navigation src=/screens/dot/gif //a regards Mark

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Mark Huppert
spot the typo regards Mark _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 10:34 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Steve One way to do it is make a

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
A 1-pixel image works for screen reader users but it is no use for sighted people who use keyboard navigation. _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mark Huppert Sent: 28 October 2009 23:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Mark Huppert
Thanks for that Steve - but I was trying answer the question: Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers regards Mark _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Steve

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and HTML Emails

2009-10-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/10/28 17:37 (GMT-0400) kris wright composed: email clients vary wildly in their HTML rendering capabilities, and on occasion actually modify your HTML code makes things even more confusing. Email is supposed to be text communication. Web pages are web pages. If you want your email

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and HTML Emails

2009-10-28 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Felix Miata wrote: Email is supposed to be text communication. And yet, remarkably, there's multipart/alternative as a MIME type. Go figure. -- Hassan Schroeder - has...@webtuitive.com webtuitive design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com twitter:

Re: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Joseph Taylor
Mark, I just add something like this to things that are for mobile/text-only: style type=text/css media=screen.noscreen { text-index: -3000px; }/style a class=noscreen href=#placeSkip Link/a It's not perfect (keyboard users with a full blown browser will have to tab through them but won't

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Steve Green
Understood. I was addressing the common misconception that skip links are only for screen reader users. Bob may have had a reason for phrasing the question the way he did, but it probably should have been phrased differently. _ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Raul Ferrer
I've been always under the impression that sighted users surfing with a keyboard, have it easier to realize if there's a Skip Navigation link (since nothing gets on focus) and it's easier for them to navigate with tab key, so it's not such a burden. I mean, suffering the navigation on a screen