Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
- Original Message - From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org It is a term used in typography. Think of a block of text as you would a piece of fine tapestry. On your home page, squint' your eyes at that text block and you'll see the rivers cascading down the tapestry. Still don't see it? Take a screen shot of the text-block and literally rotate in photoshop so that is upside down-- and you'll see the rivers. Justified text is sometimes quite nice in print media when done by a typographer really knows her stuff. I would not attempt to stay awake nights waiting for Web software to catch up. In the meantime, reset to flush left/scatter right. CSS: text-align: left; This will dry up the rivers and the text will be easier to read. A different font stack and honoring user default rather than your personal preference could also be a nice touch, too. Gotcha! Thanks, and a HAY! Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
- Original Message - From: Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson.com On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote: @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now! It's still yellow. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com I really don't know why it's yellow to you. Anyone else see this? Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
I've looked at it on Firefox and Galeon on Linux, and it's definitely white on both. Nice design; very clean and easy on the eye. I have several weird neurological problems and really appreciate simplicity and elegance in design - much easier to use. Happy New Year! Lesley designer wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson.com On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote: @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now! It's still yellow. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com I really don't know why it's yellow to you. Anyone else see this? Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:07 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote: If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if you could have a look at: http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html snip (http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/flash/flashpage.html) snip All comments gratefully received. it seems that you need to validate your pages. the sheltie page: the group of shelties disappear after a second. when you click on the galleries the pictures are partly visible. lots-o-errors. flashpage: is the swoosh noise necessary? i find it annoying. the type is difficult to read over the pictures. there is no doctype and you have a closing style tag with no opening style tag. cheers, dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.ukwrote: - Original Message - From: Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson.com On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote: @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now! It's still yellow. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com I really don't know why it's yellow to you. Anyone else see this? Bob i see white. could be a video card issue. dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
Hi Dwain, - Original Message -- From: dwain it seems that you need to validate your pages. flashpage: [snip] there is no doctype and you have a closing style tag with no opening style tag. --- Thanks for looking. The Sheltie site domain is hosted by Easily.co.uk and the person the site was done for wants to display only the domain. Easily does this by wrapping everything in a frameset, and it's this you are seeing. I'm glad you pointed this out, and I have now removed that site from the list. However, the Flash page - are you using an HTML5 validator? It validates just fine. see http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.betasite.fsnet.co.uk%2Fgam%2Fflash%2Fflashpage.html Cheers, Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:50 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.ukwrote: However, the Flash page - are you using an HTML5 validator? It validates just fine. you're right. but there is no doctype and an end style tag with no starting style tag. does html5 do away with doctypes and validates without both opening and closing tags? dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
re: [WSG] First stab at html5
- Original Message - From: dwain To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] First stab at html5 you're right. but there is no doctype and an end style tag with no starting style tag. does html5 do away with doctypes and validates without both opening and closing tags? dwain --- Hi Dwain, The doctype for html5 is !DOCTYPE html and it is there. I can't see any missing /style tag here. Look at the source code (obtained from the online version in FF3.5.6 'view source') : !DOCTYPE html html lang=en head titleGwelanmor internet/title !--meta charset=UTF-8-- meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / meta name=Keywords content= web design, flash, CSS, web standards, affordable style, minimalist, innovative, Cornwall, U.K. / meta name=Description content=gwelanmor Internet is a company which specialises in creating modern,standards-based, minimalist web sites at affordable rates / meta content=Bob McClelland name=author / meta content=bob mcclelland, gwelanmor-internet name=Copyright / style type=text/css @import url(../altgam/standard.css); /style !--[if lte IE 8] script src=html5.js type=text/javascript/script ![endif]-- /head body div id=wrapperheader id=banner figure img src=../altgam/graphics/gwelanmorinternet.gif alt=signature width=404 height=103 /figure /header section id=content h2Simple Flash example/h2 embed src=gwelanmor2010.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=596 height=375/ /section /div /body /html?? Over to you!Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Site doesn't display correctly in IE - looking for some advice please
A few people have said that they can only see the green nav bar and the
picture of trees below it and nothing
else. They should be able to see more than that including a black footer
with images and links.
Try removing:
overflow-x: hidden;
from the body {} CSS block.
Happy New Years to you as well.
Best regards,
Kepler Gelotte
Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
http://www.neighborwebmaster.com www.neighborwebmaster.com
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RE: [WSG] Site doesn't display correctly in IE - looking for some advice please
job done!
thank you.
I must have left that in from another site. Really must get into the habit
of using css reset to baseline everything before I start.
Hedley
Hedley Phillips
Digital Essence
T: 01306 627 128
M: 07940 508 417
E: hed...@digitalessence.net
From: Kepler Gelotte kep...@neighborwebmaster.com
Sent: 01 January 2010 22:38
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Site doesn't display correctly in IE - looking for some
advice please
A few people have said that they can only see the
green nav bar and the picture of trees below it and nothing
else. They should be able to see more than that
including a black footer with images and links.
Try removing:
overflow-x: hidden;
from the body {} CSS block.
Happy New Years to you as well.
Best regards,
Kepler
Gelotte
Neighbor
Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
www.neighborwebmaster.com
phone/fax: (732)
302-0904
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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5
designer wrote: Gotcha! Thanks, and a HAY! Bob O.K. You did not ask about anything else. And, that is O.K., too. Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Site doesn't display correctly in IE - looking for some advice please
IE8 - looks fine.
IE7 - looks ok but not as intended.
IE6 - looks very odd.
A few suggestions:
* *IE6* doesn't recognise the *min-height* property on *#header* and
*.whitebar* - there are several ways around thisa search for
/IE6 min-height hack/ in Google will return countless solutions
(I just use the _height:40px; solution) - but you're better off
*not using min-height* at all...so remove it.
* The *whitebar* divs are better off removed and replaced with
*top and bottom borders* on the relevant divs - eg. *#header
{border-bottom:5px solid #fff}* - if you insist on using these
whitebar divs, give them a *height* (instead of a min-height) and
*font-size:0;*
* You need to apply the *clear:both* property to a bunch of divs -
eg: *.whitebar, #footer.*
* The dark repeating background image on the footer can be
*replaced* with a simple *background colour*: eg.
background-color: #000; - but you also need to address the issue
of the collapsing height (due to floated child elements) - my
solution: replace the current footer styles with this:
*background-color: #000; color:#fff;
overflow:hidden;zoom:1;padding-bottom:2em;* - overflow fixes 0
height issue and zoom fixes IE6 hasLayout issue with overflow (but
be warned - you must be careful not to use this overflow technique
with a declared height) - there are other floating fixes - in
particular the *clearfix* (type in google).
* You can use this overflow technique for other divs that need it,
eg: *#header, #navbar*.
* The *#navbar* area can be more *semantic *if you replace the
current div structure with a ul - this would also negate the
need for the /div class=nav_text_blank/div/ - generally I
try *never* to *use* *empty divs* unless they are absolutely
necessary.
* The same semantic approach can be applied to the *image galleries*
in the photos and videos columns.
* Christian Fagan
* Fagan Design
* fagandesign.com.au
* p: (+613) 9314-1841
hed...@digitalessence.net wrote:
Hi,
Wondering if you guys could please shed some light on why my latest
site isn't working in IE correctly for some people (IE 7 IE 8).
A few people have said that they can only see the green nav bar and
the picture of trees below it and nothing else. They should be able to
see more than that including a black footer with images and links.
I have validated it and it passes ok but when I run it through
browsershots I get the results mentioned above and can't see where I
have gone wrong.
The site is: http://bentonarboriculture.co.uk/test.html
and I have attached two images, one of how it should look and the
other of how it appears in IE
many thanks, and Happy New Year!
Hedley Phillips
Digital Essence
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M: 07940 508 417
E: hed...@digitalessence.net
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