[WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Lesley Lutomski

Hi all,

I apologise if this is off-topic, but I'd really appreciate some advice.

I have clients who insist they want background music on their Web site. 
 I've tried to dissuade them, but without success.  What is the most 
acceptable/least intrusive method of doing this?  UK licensing 
requirements differ depending on whether the music is downloadable or 
not, so I need to sort out the method in order to advise them on the 
licences.  I'm still hoping the complexities of the licensing system 
will succeed where I've failed and put them off the whole notion, but in 
case not, I'd be most grateful for some input here.


Thank you.

Lesley


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Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Kevin Ireson

Hi Lesley,

This is a usability issue really. Usability being a mark of quality or how 
easy a site is for user to achieve their goals on AND how pleasant an 
experience it is.


In the 80's and 90's it was very new and exciting to have some sound. 
However, very quickly became a nightmare as you had a horrid tune running 
all the time and could not switch it off without switching off your 
speakers.


So, imo the most unobtrusive way would be to have an option to play the 
music or at least, if no option is to be given, only play the tune once.


Best of luck in dissuading them. What I would do is show them the 10 most 
successful sites on the internet. Then show them a graph of the number of 
the top 10 that play background music. Even the top 10 sites in their own 
area of business. That might bring them to their senses.


Kevin

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Subject: [WSG] Background music on web pages


Hi all,

I apologise if this is off-topic, but I'd really appreciate some advice.

I have clients who insist they want background music on their Web site. 
I've tried to dissuade them, but without success.  What is the most 
acceptable/least intrusive method of doing this?  UK licensing 
requirements differ depending on whether the music is downloadable or not, 
so I need to sort out the method in order to advise them on the licences. 
I'm still hoping the complexities of the licensing system will succeed 
where I've failed and put them off the whole notion, but in case not, I'd 
be most grateful for some input here.


Thank you.

Lesley


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Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Henrik Madsen


80s Kevin? Mid 90s at the latest.

My 2c - don't.

My 3rd c - But if u must, set volume to zero initially and indicate  
there is an option to turn sound up/on.


Think of an open plan office situation. Far from uncommon. Music  
playing automatically would surely be the best excuse to exit.






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On 27/02/2010, at 8:45 PM, Kevin Ireson wrote:


Hi Lesley,

This is a usability issue really. Usability being a mark of quality  
or how easy a site is for user to achieve their goals on AND how  
pleasant an experience it is.


In the 80's and 90's it was very new and exciting to have some  
sound. However, very quickly became a nightmare as you had a horrid  
tune running all the time and could not switch it off without  
switching off your speakers.


So, imo the most unobtrusive way would be to have an option to play  
the music or at least, if no option is to be given, only play the  
tune once.


Best of luck in dissuading them. What I would do is show them the 10  
most successful sites on the internet. Then show them a graph of the  
number of the top 10 that play background music. Even the top 10  
sites in their own area of business. That might bring them to their  
senses.


Kevin

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From: Lesley Lutomski ubu...@webaflame.co.uk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:50 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Background music on web pages


Hi all,

I apologise if this is off-topic, but I'd really appreciate some  
advice.


I have clients who insist they want background music on their Web  
site. I've tried to dissuade them, but without success.  What is  
the most acceptable/least intrusive method of doing this?  UK  
licensing requirements differ depending on whether the music is  
downloadable or not, so I need to sort out the method in order to  
advise them on the licences. I'm still hoping the complexities of  
the licensing system will succeed where I've failed and put them  
off the whole notion, but in case not, I'd be most grateful for  
some input here.


Thank you.

Lesley


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Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Savl Ekk
You can make embedded flash player there, starting tune on pageload. Of
course with options of setting volume, pause, turn off/on.


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Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Bruce P
Smal player and an off button one can find immediately is a prerequisite 
:)


Bruce
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:50 AM
Subject: [WSG] Background music on web pages



Hi all,

I apologise if this is off-topic, but I'd really appreciate some advice.

I have clients who insist they want background music on their Web site. 
I've tried to dissuade them, but without success.  What is the most 
acceptable/least intrusive method of doing this?  UK licensing 
requirements differ depending on whether the music is downloadable or not, 
so I need to sort out the method in order to advise them on the licences. 
I'm still hoping the complexities of the licensing system will succeed 
where I've failed and put them off the whole notion, but in case not, I'd 
be most grateful for some input here.


Thank you.

Lesley


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Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

2010-02-27 Thread Brett Goulder
I would just point your client to some usability articles and educate 
them why background music is very bad.


My 2 cents would be to just not do it.

http://completeusability.com/regrettable-background-music/



Bruce P wrote:
Smal player and an off button one can find immediately is a 
prerequisite :)


Bruce
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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:50 AM
Subject: [WSG] Background music on web pages



Hi all,

I apologise if this is off-topic, but I'd really appreciate some advice.

I have clients who insist they want background music on their Web 
site. I've tried to dissuade them, but without success.  What is the 
most acceptable/least intrusive method of doing this?  UK licensing 
requirements differ depending on whether the music is downloadable or 
not, so I need to sort out the method in order to advise them on the 
licences. I'm still hoping the complexities of the licensing system 
will succeed where I've failed and put them off the whole notion, but 
in case not, I'd be most grateful for some input here.


Thank you.

Lesley


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