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Re: [WSG] A question about RTL
>>> GDP per capita >>> ((Dollars >> - the opening round bracket, which is normally on the LHS of the text, >> must go on the RHS of the text, due to dir=RTL >> - the text then renders LTR as the bidi rules for ascii is LTR. >> - the closing round bracket depends on the bidi rules for the previous >> character (which was LTR), so it displays LTR too. > Thanks. Am I right in assuming, then, that if I use a RTL language here > instead of the English ASCII the parentheses will be displayed correctly? Generally speaking, yes it should layout correctly. Note that some languages can be written LTR or RTL, so will depend on the 'script' being used... but that is probably too much to worry about... I only speak English, so I'm not really an expert on the issue... One technique I use is to put the english text into Google Translate, the cut'n'paste the resultant text. This works really well if you test it using a local html file, with its encoding set to utf8. If being implemented on the server side, this simplicity depend will on your server-side language eg: Perl supports utf8 natively, so (provided your Linux terminals support utf8), you can cut from the browser, then paste it into a string variable. Java on the other hand, is hard work and if being built using Windows tools, will probably cause more problems than it solves. Aside: I wrote some translation-related code a few years ago... this may give a bit more background on the complexities of web-app translations: http://search.cpan.org/~mathew/Locale-MakePhrase-0.5/lib/Locale/MakePhrase/OSDC2004.pod hops this helps, Mathew Robertson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Agree. Highly recommended book for getting started in understanding HTML5. If you need in depth tutorials or demos, it's best to just browse the numerous resources online about HTML5, as they are constantly changing. Another interesting thing about HTML5, you can start using some of the syntax in your projects. (just change the doctype to start). It is meant to be backward compatible. steven On 18/08/2010, at 4:19 AM, Bechara - iLearn Treinamentos wrote: > Hi Jeff, it was excellent for those who are beginning to study HTML5. At this > point the author was a perfect pass in the current moment of HTML5. Because > everything is still somewhat cloudy in this field, I think he reached his > goal. > > I certainly recommend. > > But one thing sure. He will not go deep into technical issues such as > javascript, canvas, svg, etc which makes necessary for the development of > HTML5 interactive, as we're seeing out there. > > > From: jeffrey morin > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:49 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS > > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone > have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Hi Jeff, it was excellent for those who are beginning to study HTML5. At this point the author was a perfect pass in the current moment of HTML5. Because everything is still somewhat cloudy in this field, I think he reached his goal. I certainly recommend. But one thing sure. He will not go deep into technical issues such as javascript, canvas, svg, etc which makes necessary for the development of HTML5 interactive, as we're seeing out there. From: jeffrey morin Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:49 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Hey Clare, I didn't like that every time I read a blog post or article by Jeffrey Zeldman that he had to put that book in their somewhere, whether it was related to the article or not. It just turned me off to the idea of buying it. That and it's only available through a book apart I think. Thanks for your response. Jeff On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Clare Warburton wrote: > well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step > by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) > > and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! > > Thanks, Clare > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, jeffrey morin wrote: > >> Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS >> by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but >> am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does >> anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> *** >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >> *** >> > > > > -- > Clare Warburton > cla...@gmail.com > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Yeah I just wasn't sure what to expect. I had read it's a brief overview of the "best" parts of the language and sounds like from everyone here that is about right. I do like Jeremy Keith's writing so may pick it up, I figured it may be a good way to get started. Jeff On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Clare Warburton wrote: > well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step > by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) > > and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! > > Thanks, Clare > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, jeffrey morin wrote: > >> Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS >> by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but >> am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does >> anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> *** >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >> *** >> > > > > -- > Clare Warburton > cla...@gmail.com > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
so bad http://www.reebokjerseyonline.com 2010/8/17 Clare Warburton > well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step > by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) > > and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! > > Thanks, Clare > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, jeffrey morin wrote: > >> Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS >> by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but >> am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does >> anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> *** >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >> *** >> > > > > -- > Clare Warburton > cla...@gmail.com > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
well worth it my opinion. nice primer on HTML5. its not technical or step by step, still its a quick and enjoyable read that you can read offline :) and er .. what exactly about their promotion was shameless?! Thanks, Clare On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, jeffrey morin wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does > anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** -- Clare Warburton cla...@gmail.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
now with added longdesc.. ;) On 18/08/2010, at 1:25 AM, Steven Faulkner wrote: good places to start with HTML5 are: HTML: The Markup Language http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/ HTML5 (Edition for Web Authors) http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ regards stevef *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Jeff, depends on what you expect I suppose, I've read it - it's only small and light - but I like Jeremy's writing - very distinct and to the point which makes the book a great overview. Currently reading 'Introducing HTML5' by Bruce Lawson and Remy Sharp - which is brilliant :) Very friendly and informal tone - very informative and with great examples. So more in depth look at the current state of HTML5 - this one is one I would recommend. Just my opinion, of course - but starting to use HTML5 more and more :) Prisca On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Fabien BENARIAC wrote: > Hey ! > > I think that could be an interresting book... but I don't know if I will > prefer to wait the second edition. In fact, I will wait some times to see > how browser understand HTML5. As I have already understand, Firefox and > Safari/Chrome don't use the same CSS properties ! So I think these books are > just to sell papers. > > ;-) > Fab. > > Le 17/08/10 16:49, jeffrey morin a écrit : > > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does > anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
good places to start with HTML5 are: HTML: The Markup Language http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/ HTML5 (Edition for Web Authors) http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ regards stevef On 17 August 2010 16:18, Jason Grant wrote: > A good starting point is the spec itself I would say. > You shouldn't be going far off with reading the spec or at least skimming > through it. > I think W3C now has the 'human optimised' version of the spec and not just > the browser vendor 900+ page and growing version only. > Cheers, > Jason > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, David Storey wrote: > >> >> On 17 Aug 2010, at 16:49, jeffrey morin wrote: >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS >> by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but >> am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does >> anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? >> >> >> Depends what you want it for. I've not read it, but I heard it was a good >> primer to introduce you to the topic. It is a fairly short book, so doesn't >> go indepth. >> >> There is another book, "Introducing HTML5" - introducinghtml5.com - which >> is more indepth. It covers the semantics and such in the first half and the >> JS APIs, Cavas and such in the second half. I've just started reading this, >> but it is by all accounts a good book. A disclaimer is that I work with one >> of the authors at Opera. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> *** >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >> *** >> >> >>David Storey >> >> Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Dragonfly >> W3C WG: Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group >> >> Opera Software ASA, Oslo, Norway >> Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 / E-Mail/XMPP: dsto...@opera.com / Twitter: >> dstorey >> >> >> *** >> List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >> Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >> *** >> > > > > -- > Jason Grant BSc, MSc > CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. > www.flexewebs.com > ja...@flexewebs.com > +44 (0)7748 591 770 > Company no.: 5587469 > > www.flexewebs.com/semantix > www.twitter.com/flexewebs > www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
A good starting point is the spec itself I would say. You shouldn't be going far off with reading the spec or at least skimming through it. I think W3C now has the 'human optimised' version of the spec and not just the browser vendor 900+ page and growing version only. Cheers, Jason On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, David Storey wrote: > > On 17 Aug 2010, at 16:49, jeffrey morin wrote: > > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does > anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? > > > Depends what you want it for. I've not read it, but I heard it was a good > primer to introduce you to the topic. It is a fairly short book, so doesn't > go indepth. > > There is another book, "Introducing HTML5" - introducinghtml5.com - which > is more indepth. It covers the semantics and such in the first half and the > JS APIs, Cavas and such in the second half. I've just started reading this, > but it is by all accounts a good book. A disclaimer is that I work with one > of the authors at Opera. > > > Thanks, > Jeff > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > > David Storey > > Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Dragonfly > W3C WG: Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group > > Opera Software ASA, Oslo, Norway > Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 / E-Mail/XMPP: dsto...@opera.com / Twitter: > dstorey > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
It's still early for using HTML5 within serious sites and there's not much point. I have long ago given up on reading books about development, as by the time the book is delivered it's already out of date most of the time. By the time HTML5 is in full usable swing, there will be (I'm sure) a good enough only resource which shows/teaches how to use it. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Fabien BENARIAC wrote: > Hey ! > > I think that could be an interresting book... but I don't know if I will > prefer to wait the second edition. In fact, I will wait some times to see > how browser understand HTML5. As I have already understand, Firefox and > Safari/Chrome don't use the same CSS properties ! So I think these books are > just to sell papers. > > ;-) > Fab. > > Le 17/08/10 16:49, jeffrey morin a écrit : > > Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by > Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am > turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does > anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > *** > -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
On 17 Aug 2010, at 16:49, jeffrey morin wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Depends what you want it for. I've not read it, but I heard it was a good primer to introduce you to the topic. It is a fairly short book, so doesn't go indepth. There is another book, "Introducing HTML5" - introducinghtml5.com - which is more indepth. It covers the semantics and such in the first half and the JS APIs, Cavas and such in the second half. I've just started reading this, but it is by all accounts a good book. A disclaimer is that I work with one of the authors at Opera. Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** David Storey Chief Web Opener / Product Manager, Opera Dragonfly W3C WG: Mobile Web Best Practices / SVG Interest Group Opera Software ASA, Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 / E-Mail/XMPP: dsto...@opera.com / Twitter: dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
I've read DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith and it was a fine book for what it was. Haven't read this one though. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 8/17/10 10:49 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Hey ! I think that could be an interresting book... but I don't know if I will prefer to wait the second edition. In fact, I will wait some times to see how browser understand HTML5. As I have already understand, Firefox and Safari/Chrome don't use the same CSS properties ! So I think these books are just to sell papers. ;-) Fab. Le 17/08/10 16:49, jeffrey morin a écrit : Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
To be honest - I read it, started using it, but am referring to the Internet sources most of the times. The book is very general. For example: I started implementing "video", but there is no explanation on the formats which are best to use and why, started using new elements, but there are no explanations on the details of use, be use, etc. It's a good book for a general overview though... Anya Anya V. Gerasimchuk Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services UNIFI Information Technology agerasimc...@unioncentral.com (513) 595 -2391 jeffrey morin Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 08/17/2010 10:56 AM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS
Does anyone have an opinion on whether the book, HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS by Jeremy Keith is worth the purchase? I want to learn more about HTML5 but am turned off by the shameless promotion they've done for this book. Does anyone have any suggestions on other books or if this is worth it? Thanks, Jeff *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
