Re: [WSG] html5 issue
On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Tatham Oddie wrote:
Feel free to ping me off list if you have any specific scenarios that you
feel you need IE specific CSS for. I'll be happy to try and give you
cross-browser equivalents.
Could you share the reliable ie8 hacks that will do no harm to IE9 in the list?
In very rare occasions I do need to target IE8 mostly just one or two element
(the trigger has always been a combination of relative and absolute positing
and floated elements), it really disturbs me to have to creating extra
stylesheet for ie8, sometimes I can get away with it with zoom:1 but there are
times different values for width, paddings and margins are needed.
I found this but never feel comfortable using it.
.test { color /*\**/: blue\9 }
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Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Although the base site is XHTML it uses HTML5 in the extra windows. (which you can still manipulate BTW) As for wastefulness, it's effectively a music video, so think who their audience is before answering that for yourself. The HTML 5 issue is the creation of the video feed in near real-time from a google maps / streetview reference and play that with several other vids simultaneously using HTML5 (as opposed to the current common Flash platform) code. Also, the collision and mouse detection without Flash is also of interest. It is an example of what can be expected from HTML 5 in the near future. For cultural sites, there's a good reason to put HTML 5 on the table. Also for example, kiosk experiences, where you get to control the platform. or for mobile apps, where HTML5 can be a lighter drain on the processor. So, as with most questions, the wastefulness can be measured by assessing the audience, purpose, goals, platform and strategy first. PS: it works in Safari as well. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jason Arnold jaon.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Well, since that page is actually a doctype of XHTML 1.0 Transitional (not HTML5, although one could say it's HTML5 because it uses some HTML5 tags but it's clearly XHTML 1.0) and that it doesn't work I'd say it's wasteful. However, is it wasteful to create a working site in HTML5, depends on your audience and the type of content you need to implement. If it's a site like this one that suppose to be all rich interactive (aka using the canvas tag) and has to work in IE6/7/8 then it might be wasteful since you'd want to also create a flash version to replace the canvas tag for those versions of browsers that don't support the canvas tag yet. However, for all other tags in HTML5 you would be fine building a site with them today and not be wasteful. -- Jason Arnold http://www.jasonarnold.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com j...@wheelyweb.com +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype/Wave:wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Hi Joe Great response - thanks for the informative advice. There seems to be more sites being created in HTML5 ... any other recommended examples of HTML5 sites? On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com wrote: Although the base site is XHTML it uses HTML5 in the extra windows. (which you can still manipulate BTW) As for wastefulness, it's effectively a music video, so think who their audience is before answering that for yourself. The HTML 5 issue is the creation of the video feed in near real-time from a google maps / streetview reference and play that with several other vids simultaneously using HTML5 (as opposed to the current common Flash platform) code. Also, the collision and mouse detection without Flash is also of interest. It is an example of what can be expected from HTML 5 in the near future. For cultural sites, there's a good reason to put HTML 5 on the table. Also for example, kiosk experiences, where you get to control the platform. or for mobile apps, where HTML5 can be a lighter drain on the processor. So, as with most questions, the wastefulness can be measured by assessing the audience, purpose, goals, platform and strategy first. PS: it works in Safari as well. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jason Arnold jaon.arn...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Well, since that page is actually a doctype of XHTML 1.0 Transitional (not HTML5, although one could say it's HTML5 because it uses some HTML5 tags but it's clearly XHTML 1.0) and that it doesn't work I'd say it's wasteful. However, is it wasteful to create a working site in HTML5, depends on your audience and the type of content you need to implement. If it's a site like this one that suppose to be all rich interactive (aka using the canvas tag) and has to work in IE6/7/8 then it might be wasteful since you'd want to also create a flash version to replace the canvas tag for those versions of browsers that don't support the canvas tag yet. However, for all other tags in HTML5 you would be fine building a site with them today and not be wasteful. -- Jason Arnold http://www.jasonarnold.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com j...@wheelyweb.com +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype/Wave:wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
On 9/2/10 10:25 PM, Mick Doherty wrote: There seems to be more sites being created in HTML5 ... any other recommended examples of HTML5 sites? http://html5gallery.com/ ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
