They are both 'frames' but they are not the same. It's rare that you need to use a frameset, but there's no reason why you shouldn't. Well-designed framesets have performed well in all the user testing we have done, and I would probably go as far as to say they have worked better than JavaScript-based designs. I'm talking about disabled users with assistive technology here, not 'regular' users.
iFrames have a fundamental problem that they have fixed dimensions, so increasing the text size results in truncation of the contents. A lot of third-party content providers address this by using fixed font sizes, which just introduces a different problem. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd -----Original Message----- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: 26 October 2010 03:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Where are we with Frames? Are Frameset and iFrame the same thing that often get called as 'frames'? When I think of frameset, I think of this. http://cssremix.com/visit/when-it-drops/ When I think of iFrame, i think of a chunk of javascript that client asks to embed to his/her site, e.g., Google Map, Google Calendar or Payment badge. I don't have issue using iFrame at all, and just checked, HTML5 doesn't make it obsolete. tee On Oct 25, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Stuart Shearing wrote: > I agree, traditional frameset layouts should be buried somewhere alongside <blink>, however I have no issue with iframes and I suspect we're going to see a lot more of them based on articles like this one - > > http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/07/new-way-to-embed-youtube-videos.html > > Stuart > >> > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* > > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
