[WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread Frances de Waal
Hi, Working with the semantical HTML5 elements I keep feeling aversion to the extra elements I am producing. Like the nav element, using it as a container for a menu in an list does not feel as an advantage, I never needed a container for the list before. I trained myself in keeping the code

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2011-11-22 Thread Gerst, Kim
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Re: [WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread Phil Archer
Hi Frances, I think you might be missing some of the semantics. I might include a list in a page, such as a list of references, or a friend list where each friend was linked to their public profile - but those aren't navigation links. The nav / element tells search engines etc. what this

Re: [WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread David Hucklesby
On 11/22/11 6:32 AM, Frances de Waal wrote: Hi, Working with the semantical HTML5 elements I keep feeling aversion to the extra elements I am producing. Like the nav element, using it as a container for a menu in an list does not feel as an advantage, I never needed a container for the list

Re: [WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread Frances de Waal
Hi Phil, Yes, you are right, and screenreaders have the opportunity to skip the nav, for instance. It is just that when I work with this I keep having the feeling it is a bit overdone and I keep looking for some logic to simplify things. So I wonder how others deal with this, maybe something I

Re: [WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread Frances de Waal
Thank you, David, good to know, I am afraid this is an example of what made me pose this question :). Suppose time will solve it all! Frances Op 22 nov 2011, om 16:52 heeft David Hucklesby het volgende geschreven: On 11/22/11 6:32 AM, Frances de Waal wrote: Hi, Working with the

Re: [WSG] nav element

2011-11-22 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 11/22/11 6:32 AM, Frances de Waal wrote: ,,, and that a nav element around a simple list is not adding anything to it but creating more code. Of course it's adding something: semantics beyond that of a generic list, which provides no metadata about what it contains. Personally, I say

Re: [WSG] Using ellipsis to indicate truncated overflow content

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Buchanan
text-overflow: ellipsis? http://www.quirksmode.org/css/textoverflow.html Thank you, yes, the text-overflow property is great but does not work in Firefox 3.6. Do you know of a work-around for Firefox. Unless you have a really massive FF 3.6 userbase that you know is blocked from upgrades, I'd