Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
Haha, it's not spam, unfortunately the only entity that fits your rather heated descriptive words on this topic is the Government of Australia, who are pushing for this filter. This *is* already happening in Australia and the Government have seriously said they would like it in place. I know, hard to believe. And that's why anyone who values the freedom of the Internet should sign the petition - god knows what could happen in other countries if they see that Australia is able to get such a thing in place. Regards, Casey. On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 22:59 -0600, Brett Patterson wrote: > 1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit! > > 2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!! > > > --and-- > > > 3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this > I can promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive! > 4) Like I said, I think this a crock of shit, and possibly spam. > > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM, IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Usually I'm suspicious of this stuff but I happen to know that > Get Up is legit and thought the Aussie members of this list > might like to know about this. > > IceKat. > > > *** > List Guidelines: > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > Thought you might be interested > > Love Mum > > > - Original Message - > > From: GetUp > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:17 PM > Subject: The Great Firewall of Australia > > > > > Dear Helen, > > Imagine a government proposing an internet censorship system > that went further than any other democracy - one that made the > internet up to 87% slower, more expensive, accidentally > blocked up to one in 12 legitimate sites, and missed the vast > majority of inappropriate content. > > This is not China, Saudi Arabia or Iran - this is the vision > of Senator Stephen Conroy for Australia. Testing has already > begun. The community must now move to stop this plan. Click > here to save the net: > > www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet > > The system that Senator Conroy wants is a mandatory filter of > all internet traffic, with the government of the day able to > add any unwanted site to a secret blacklist. Already, the > wrangling has begun for the inclusion of material relating to > anorexia, euthanasia and gambling. It isn't difficult to see > the scheme is open to abuse. > > Even when it comes to preventing child p-rnography, the filter > will not prevent peer-to-peer sharing and is very simple to > sidestep. The protection of our children is vitally important > - that's why we can't afford to waste funds on this deeply > flawed system. We should be concentrating on solutions that > are more effective and won't undermine our digital economy or > our democratic freedoms. > > This must rank as one of the most ill-thought decisions of the > Rudd Government's first year in power. We need to act now to > tell big brother the mandatory internet filter is incompatible > with the principles of a modern democracy and modern economy: > > www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet > > Our government should be doing all in its power to take > Australia into the 21st century economy, and to protect our > children. This proposed internet censorship does neither. Take > action to save the net today. > > Thanks for being a part of the solution, > The GetUp team > > PS - The proposed scheme will pass all internet traffic > through a government filter - it's like asking Australia Post > to filter every letter sent in Australia. Click here to save > the net. > > __ > > GetUp is an independent, not-for-profit community campaigning > group. We use new technology to empower Australians to have > their say on important national issues. We receive no > political party or government funding, and every campaign we > run is entirely supported by voluntary donations. If you'd > like to contribute to help fund GetUp's work, please donate > now! If you have trouble with any links in this
[WSG] accessible client side form validation
Hi, Does anyone know of a free form validation javascript that is reasonably accessible? I realise that no client-side validation will be completely accessible without a server-side backup, but are there any good ones out there? Thanks, Casey. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive
Hi Jens, In that case, the only solution I can think of is to position: relative the right floated div, and move it up by the height of the header (with top: -Xpx;). This of course requires you to have a fixed height for the header. Regards, Casey. Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Hi Casey, Changing the order of the DIVs in the source should fix the problem you're absolutely right - changing the source order would solve the problem. But in order to keep together what content-wise has to be kept together (heading and div1) I wanted to know if there is another solution. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive
Changing the order of the DIVs in the source should fix the problem, it's strange that you say IE6/7 are rendering as per your ascii layout - as I tried your code and IE7 rendered the same as Firefox. heading div two div one that seems to do what you wanted. Regards, Casey. Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Hi group, I have a really easy setting: heading div one div two When I imagine this I expect the browser to render the two left-floated elements on the left side and the single right-floated div on the right side, aligned with the heading: +---+ ++ |heading| |div2| +---+ || +---+ ++ | div1 | | | +---+ However, FF aligns the right-floated div with the left-floated div and I cannot convice it to align the former with the heading. IE6 and IE7 render it as I intuitively think it should render. Having faith in FF I believe I'm missing something basic to understand why this happens this way. Anybody solved this without introducing a wrapper div for heading and div1? Thanks, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] PNG file sizes
Definitely can be used for PNG, and I'm pretty sure at least all of the CS versions can. Casey. Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that in the 'save for web' option you could only save as gif or jpeg. Am I wrong? I'd love it if I could use it to compress png files - just needed to yesterday!! ... :) - susie On 17/4/08 1:40 AM, "Nick Fitzsimons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, April 16, 2008 5:59 am, Rachel May wrote: Only my personal website I've used transparent PNGs a lot... I've been rather picky on how it looks, so that the shadows look natural etc. But this means that the file sizes are HUGE and download is really long. I created the PNGs in Photoshop (CS3) and just wondering if there are any better tools or ways of saving the PNGs for smaller file size, while still retaining their high quality?? If you just use Photoshop's normal "Save" functionality, selecting PNG as the type, it will include a large amount of information in the file to assist it when the file is opened for editing at a later time. Use the "Save for Web and Devices" dialog instead and it will create much smaller files. HTH, Nick. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.
I don't know if this might be causing it, but you do have a closing div for a "content" div but no opening content div - all up one too many closing divs. Try getting rid of this line: Casey. Rob Enslin wrote: I've recently built a website trying to move towards more standards-compliant code. After the delight at pushing the site live my world 'caved in' (a little over-dramatic maybe) this morning when a colleague noticed rogue 'ls." text some way down the home page. Live site: http://www.londoncalling2008.com Screen-grab in IE6: http://www.flickr.com/photos/doos/2384241027/ Testing the site: IE7 - no problem FF2 - no problem Safari/PC - no problem Safari/Mac - no problem FF2/Mac - no problem ** IE6 - PROBLEM (http://www.flickr.com/photos/doos/2384241027/) Could anyone find an explanation for this? -- Rob Enslin http://enslin.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] data generator
Excellent resource - thanks Thierry :-) Casey. Thierry Koblentz wrote: This is pretty cool tool to generate volume of any kind of data (it even includes SQL options) http://www.generatedata.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hello
touché. Stuart Foulstone wrote: Very ironic. On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: ... NickFitz in "about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to degenerate into pretentious drivel" mode... -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] use of in
I'm not talking about presenting a list of links; I'm talking about presenting the actual content on a page. From your example above, it's quite feasible that you'd just have one page for Services and one for About Us. If you present * Web Site Development * Graphics * SEO In the case presented, I'd use headings and paragraphs. I think in any situation where multiple paragraphs are required, the information should be broken out of the list, as it's taking away from what a list is really for - presenting multiple points in an easy-to-scan format. Casey. John Faulds wrote: If the lists have a number of levels like Services Web Site Development Graphics SEO and more About Us Me You Someone else I'm not talking about presenting a list of links; I'm talking about presenting the actual content on a page. From your example above, it's quite feasible that you'd just have one page for Services and one for About Us. If you present * Web Site Development * Graphics * SEO as a list of services (which it is), then it's quite likely you're going to need more than one paragraph to describe each of them. I don't buy the definition list option because I don't believe a description of a service is a 'definition' of that service (descriptions and definitions are two separate things). The argument for splitting onto separate pages may not always be the best option either - there may not be enough to say about each one to warrant that, but there may be more than can fit into one single paragraph. You see bulleted or numbered lists of more than one paragraph in printed material all the time, particularly academic publications. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy
I disagree. Why should I make fixes on my clents sites because ie8 doesn't work properly? I won't, and what I know has nothing to do with it. MS says it would cost too much to change the engine. well, too bad, I'm not going to with my time fix their errors. Good luck keeping clients with that attitude. There's no point disagreeing with what MS are going to do. It will happen and IE8 _will_ be the most popular web browser. At least this time we have options and some standards adherence. If MS get the picture that 'standardistas' are never happy, they're not going to bother even trying to please us. Casey. Bruce wrote: "...Too much work for those that aren't in the know. Chris." I disagree. Why should I make fixes on my clents sites because ie8 doesn't work properly? I won't, and what I know has nothing to do with it. MS says it would cost too much to change the engine. well, too bad, I'm not going to with my time fix their errors. Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: "Chris Broadfoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy Chris Knowles wrote: Chris Broadfoot wrote: Chris Knowles wrote: > I don't see how opting-in to standards by adding a meta tag does > anything for me or anyone else. Except for Microsoft of course, by > allowing them to do the right thing at last and create a decent browser > while at the same time not doing the right thing and ignoring the mess > they created. > I don't think they're ignoring the "mess" they created at all.. Is adding a meta tag really too much work to provide your users/visitors the viewing experience they should have? Yeah actually I agree, they're not ignoring the mess. Just actively covering it up by enlisting yours and my support. My users/visitors should get the right viewing experience by default, not by having to opt-in. On the contrary, if you wish your users/visitors to NOT get the right viewing experience, is opting-out by adding a meta tag really too much work? Too much work for those that aren't in the know. Chris. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour
> But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, > with fontsize increases, the page just continued expanding until it reaches 1680px full screen. This is because em is a measuring unit relative to the font size of the page, so as you increase the font size, the size of 1 em increases as well, and therefore your max-width of 60em gets larger and larger. Tee G. Peng wrote: I thought max-width tells the browser: This is the limit of the width you can expand, regardless how big the screen is. But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, with fontsize increases, the page just continued expanding until it reaches 1680px full screen. If I drag the screen to the second monitor, it keeps expanding. If I make the screen smaller to 900px, then expansion stop there. Am I missing somthing? I tried setting a max-width of 1024px and 60em width , it doesn't work, my test shows that FF and Safari ignore the max-width. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript
It must not be finding the element... does the element you are looking
for in the document have id="category"?
Michael Horowitz wrote:
I've tried single quotes and keep getting the error
document.GetElementByID has no properties
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Casey Farrell wrote:
Try using single quotes, as in:
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)">
Michael Horowitz wrote:
Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">
and firebug shows a syntax error.
I tried it again taking oub the ""
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">
and then received the error message this document has not properties.
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Olly Hodgson wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
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I have examples using one value
onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">
from a form to a script.
What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element
onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"
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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript
Try using single quotes, as in:
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)">
Michael Horowitz wrote:
Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">
and firebug shows a syntax error.
I tried it again taking oub the ""
onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">
and then received the error message this document has not properties.
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Olly Hodgson wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have examples using one value
onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">
from a form to a script.
What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element
onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"
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Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard
Something which is very important to consider when thinking about Malkin's comments and this court case, is that Target stores (an most other physical stores) are near completely inaccessible to the blind. These comments are from Neil Jarvis, a spokesperson on accessibility and a completely blind user of the web: "To some people it was a life-changing event when the internet really started to break through mid-nineties. I could go to a site like Woolies and Tescos in the UK and browse the shelves for the first time. I can't describe to you what that meant to me. I could never browse the shelves before. I turned up with my bag and got help from the staff who had no time, really. You'd whiz round and forget half the things. I had no idea there were so many brands of corn-flakes. I had no idea there were so many kinds of milk. I knew there was low fat milk but other brands too? All sorts of things really. Not to use a pun but it was really an eye-opener. I guess I knew about it but didn't really understand it where it counts, in the heart. I was faced with all these choices I never knew I had. It was incredibly liberating but I could make some decisions about what *do* I want." (Thanks Raena Jackson Armitage for transcripting) Julie Romanowski wrote: I don't know how many of you are familiar with Michelle Malkin. She posted about the Target lawsuit today, and although she is an intelligent woman, she doesn't have a clue when it comes to web accessibility. There also seems to be a lot of ignorance among the commenters and I would appreciate it if some our WSG members can help to set these people straight. Please visit Michelle Malkin's site and post your comments - http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/03/blind-shoppers-get-green-light-to-s ue-target-over-website/. Julie Romanowski Software Engineering - J2EE Engagement Team State Farm Insurance Company office: 309-735-5248 mobile: 309-532-4027 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox web developer icons
I think it's http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/, but it looks like its down atm. Bojana Lalic wrote: Hi all Where can I find those icons used in the firefox web developer add-on? I am after the Disable, Information and Green tick ones. Regards Bojana *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
