RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 23:48 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: According to statistics supplied by w3schools.com, as of Jan 08 approximately 95% of users had JS enabled. Check out http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp and look towards the middle of the page for the stats. Just to keep this thread kicking (I am behind in my mail). I would suggest that w3schools attracts a more switched on user than say Live Search, YouTube or myspace/facebook/insert social network here. Stats from those types of sites are what I would be more interested in seeing. IMO stats from tech sites are not very representative of the general intarwebs user base. Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Downloading Fonts
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 12:33 -0800, David Hucklesby wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. rebuilding my site. and i have the following fonts in my style sheet. georgia, century school book, courrier, new courrier, comic ms, and others. but i notice, that on my local hard disk, or when i did have it on the web, but closed it for copyright issues. it was only displaying arial. did try searching on google. but found a couple of sites, but did not work. so where can i download fonts for my site? On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:12:36 +1100, James Ducker replied: As a general rule you cannot use non-system fonts on the web, as the end user needs to have them installed as well (I think this is what you're asking?). One workaround is to use sIFR ( http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/sifr/ ). Also, here is a list of fonts that are generally considered to be web safe: http://web.mit.edu/jmorzins/www/fonts.html Umm. Most of the fonts Marvin lists are available on most computers. I think he is saying that he does not have them on *his* computer, so wants to download them so he can see how each affects his design. I am on Mac, and would like to install some Windows-only fonts for myself. Anyone? I originally replied to Marvin offlist, but I will post a modified version of my response here as others seem interested in it. To get the standard Windows fonts, you need to grab them from sourceforge using the following instructions. Just append the filename to the end of the URL listed below, here is the list of files. andale32.exe arialb32.exe arial32.exe comic32.exe courie32.exe georgi32.exe georgi32.exe impact32.exe times32.exe trebuc32.exe verdan32.exe webdin32.exe URL: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/ So for Arial you would use http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/arialb32.exe The .exe file are windows cabinets. Top extract the on a mac try http://cabextract.darwinports.com/ . Note: I don't own a mac, but if you send me one I will happily test this on it :) You might also want to install the Liberation fonts https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/ which ship with most modern Linux distros and are released under the terms of the GPL (with an exemption which stops working using the fonts becoming subject to the GPL). Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] the Name attribute
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 23:11 -0600, Brett Patterson wrote:
What Dave?
I was simply illustrating how to make text blink in a standards
compliant way. You never know someone might find such information
useful one day. The example I provided would allow them to avoid using
the ugly non standard blink
Cheers
Dave
PS this wasn't supposed to be taken as advocating the use of blinking text :)
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Dave Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:18 +, David Dorward wrote:
Brett Patterson wrote:
Where could I find a good information site about the
document.images.imageId script line, please?
http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-DOM-Level-1-19981001/level-one-html.html#ID-26809268
And if you are trying to code using codes such as
http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217502
Just an example. A quick search to find.
A quick search can also find out how to use blink tags and
tables for
layout. That is a good example of worst practises.
Yes we all know that you should always use
!-- ... --
head
style type=text/css
/* ... */
.blink{
text-decoration: blink;
}
/* ... */
/style
!-- ... --
/head
body
!-- ... --
span class=blinkmy blinking test/span
!-- ... --
/body
instead of
!-- ... --
blinkmy blinking test/blink
!-- ... --
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Re: [WSG] the Name attribute
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07 +, Stuart Foulstone wrote:
Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a
standards compliant way?
Using the sample I posted - see below. That validates.
Cheers
Dave
On Fri, November 28, 2008 10:45 am, Dave Hall wrote:
!-- ... --
head
style type=text/css
/* ... */
.blink{
text-decoration: blink;
}
/* ... */
/style
!-- ... --
/head
body
!-- ... --
span class=blinkmy blinking test/span
!-- ... --
/body
instead of
!-- ... --
blinkmy blinking test/blink
!-- ... --
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Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 21:19 +1100, nedlud wrote: Okay, so I *should* be concerned about this, in spite of what my common sense tells me. So what can we, as web professionals (in Australia), do about it? I've signed the getup petition. What's the next step? You could _write_ a letter to Senator Conroy, you local MP and all Senators who represent your state. As many politicians aren't that cluey they tend to ignore emails or at least consider them far less important than snailed letters. It costs you less than $5 to print and post letters to the list above - even cheaper if you live in the ACT or NT :) If you feel like it send letters to the PM and leader of the opposition too. Make each letter unique and don't just use an online sample, make it relevant to you. Think about why are you concerned about this, how may it impact _you_? Why are you writing to a particular MP/Senator? Why should they listen to (or read) what you have to say? This gives you some indication of my letter to Senator Conroy - http://tinyurl.com/conroy-letter For my MP it will be similar, but for senators it will be a bit more filter focused. I hope this gives you some inspiration about how you can make your views known. Keep in mind, only emailing the minister and signing an online opinion will register to marks in the against column. Cheers Dave who should finish his letter writing campaign Nedlud. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am hoping that the live testing/trial that will be carried out early next year just shows that this is technically unfeasible. It is quite stupid to be filtering the internet for everyone in Australia, when it is much simpler to be done on each individual PC through the use of software as the previous Liberal government proposed. Andrew, I think you are miss-understanding how Government works: whether something is practical or not is pretty much never a concern unless they have to do the implementation themselves. In this case, it will be the ISP's that are forced to implement it, not the Gov itself. A similar example is in progress in the UK: the Gov have decided to introduce an 'uncrackable' bio-metric ID card for all citizens. They have been told time and again that it will not work, but this all gets outsourced to other companies, so if it fails then they get the blame, and so it goes ahead, against the wishes of pretty much the whole country. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] the Name attribute
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:18 +, David Dorward wrote:
Brett Patterson wrote:
Where could I find a good information site about the
document.images.imageId script line, please?
http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-DOM-Level-1-19981001/level-one-html.html#ID-26809268
And if you are trying to code using codes such as
http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217502
Just an example. A quick search to find.
A quick search can also find out how to use blink tags and tables for
layout. That is a good example of worst practises.
Yes we all know that you should always use
!-- ... --
head
style type=text/css
/* ... */
.blink{
text-decoration: blink;
}
/* ... */
/style
!-- ... --
/head
body
!-- ... --
span class=blinkmy blinking test/span
!-- ... --
/body
instead of
!-- ... --
blinkmy blinking test/blink
!-- ... --
Cheers
Dave
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Re: [WSG] Which is read first? Scripts or Styles?
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 10:24 -0500, Brett Patterson wrote: I have no idea why, but for some reason I cannot remember which is read first! Are scripts or styles read first? As others have mentioned, they are read in the order they occur in the document. And which is the recommended order to list them? Styles or Scripts first? Yahoo's performance best practice guide recommends styles in the head and scripts as the last thing before the /body in a document. See http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#css_top for more info. Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Web governance
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 16:58 +1100, Tony Paterson wrote: Ladies and Gents I am seeking JV partners for some of our company’s websites If you have any interest please call or email me And how is that even vaguely related to web standards, let alone the question posed? None of your site validate, and they all have their underwear showing [1], so I suspect you are looking in the wrong place for partners. In future please keep your spam to yourself. Cheers Dave [1] http://www.zeldman.com/2008/11/07/is-your-websites-underwear-showing/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: Some links for light reading (11/11/08)
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 22:33 +1100, russ - maxdesign wrote: The Ethics of Quick Backlinking Strategy http://monsterboxpro.com/2008/11/7/high-page-rank-30-minutes-simple-backlinking-strategy-guaranteed Is your (website¹s) underwear showing? http://www.zeldman.com/2008/11/07/is-your-websites-underwear-showing/ I don't know if anyone else picked this up, but link #1 has the problem described in link #2. I wonder if the positioning in the list was intentional :) Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:53 +1100, Luke Hoggett wrote: Hmm, strange that they could not write software that either: a) could be installed with out requiring root access, say a restricted user account specifically for this software or b) they can't provide you with instructions how to do it yourself. By the sounds of things they are a spam list vendor so they need to be beaten with a clue stick anyway. There is only one person who gets any kind of shell access on my servers - thats me. Clients get restricted sftp if they really need it - and can justify it to me. If your client insists on getting something like this done, set them up with a box from slicehost.com or a mediatemple.net DV server. Then they can give root access to the box and if they are spamming people the rest of your clients don't their mail blacklisted too. Best get the client to sign up for the service so if they get booted they are the ones liable for any charges. If your client doesn't understand the implications of the request, then you are probably best off without them. Cheers Dave Luke Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility - Scanning PDFs
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:32 +1100, Rae Buerckner wrote: PDF is an ISO standard and has been for some months, snip / Whoops missed that bit of news - thanks for the update *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility - Scanning PDFs
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:39 +1000, Thiru Yoganathan wrote: Hi Guys, I am dealing with a very large website, with around 20 000 PDF files. I want to test if these PDFs are Compliant with W3C standards. I know that some of these files will be I just want to find the ones which aren’t. The W3C doesn't publish the PDF specs. That is done by Adobe. Adobe is in the process of making PDF an ISO standard. As for PDF validators, google seems to find a few very ones. I have no idea if they are any good. Also create a new message rather than replying to an existing thread when you want to start a new discussion. Cheers Dave *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
