Re: [WSG] CSS Expandable Menu

2010-06-28 Thread Josh Godsiff
If you're talking about a tree-like menu, I've never come across a 
purely CSS one. It strikes me that CSS alone doesn't have the vocabulary 
to deal with something that requires an 'expanded' and 'collapsed' state.


If you're worried about accessibility, either

   * expand it all by default, and use JavaScript to collapse and
 expand it or
   * do a page-reload if there's simply too much content to have it all
 expanded at once. (And then disable that if a user has JS turned on).

This kind of thing is very easily accomplishable with something like 
jQuery, and you can generally work through or around any accessibility 
concerns.


- Josh
-- www.oxideinteractive.com.au

On 29/6/2010 9:30 AM, grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au wrote:


Hello,

I would be grateful if someone could clarify whether there is such a 
thing as a pure CSS expandable menu. The sort of thing I'm looking for 
is the expandable / collapsible hierachy commonly shown in the 
left-hand frame of Windows programs such as Explorer or Outlook.


I'm trying to avoid use of Javascript due to accessibility concerns.

Thank you and regards,

Grant Bailey
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Re: [WSG] ems versus pixels

2010-07-20 Thread Josh Godsiff

Yup. Check out http://nican.com.au/

On 21/7/2010 1:25 AM, David Laakso wrote:

Foskett, Mike wrote:

Has anyone on the list considered using keywords?



Mike Foskett











Has anyone conceived of a layout for the page using percent, em, /and/ 
pixel width, with the fonts specified in percent [ or em ]  :-) ?


Best,
~d







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Re: [WSG] INTERNET EXPLORER 8 PROBLEMS

2010-08-02 Thread Josh Godsiff

On 3/8/2010 12:47 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

HI.
DID A TUTORIAL FROM JEFF DURRUM ON HTTP://WWW.BLINDGEEKS.ORG 
mhtml:%7B4DCB9095-E5FA-4455-A328-2B372E08F438%7Dmid://0019/%21x-usc:http://www.blindgeeks.org/

AND FOR SOME STRANGE REASON.
INTERNET EXPLORER 8.
DOES NOT SHOW ME THE RESULTS OF A PAGE.
WRITING A JAVASCRIPT APPLICATION.
A SHOPPING CART.
WHERE YOU SELECT ITEMS AND PRCIES IN A DROP DOWN COMBO BOX, AND THEN 
ENTER A QUANTITY IN A EDIT BOX.

THEN CLICK THE ADD TO SHOPPING CART BUTTON.
A MESSAGE POPS UP SAYING THE ITEM WAS ADDED.
THEN YOU CLICK ON THE VIEW SHOPPING CART.
WHICH TAKES YOU TO A PAGE, AND SHOW YOU THE TOTAL PRICES , TAXES, AND 
TOTALS OF THE ITEMS PURCHASED.
THEN YOU HAVE A COMPLETE YOUR SHOPPING CART BUTTON, WHICH CLEARS OUT 
ALL YOUR TOTALS.

AND PRESENTS YOU WITH A MESSAGE.
TO CHECK OUT OR YOUR ITEMS ARE COMPLETE.
BUT IT IS NOT WORKING IN INTERNET EXPLORER 8.
SO DO I UNINSTALL, TRY REINSTALLING.
WAS WORKING LAST WEEK, BUT NOT NOW.
WORKS IN FIREFOX.
ANY IDEAS.
TRIED SETTING THE PRIVACY TO 40 % AND TRIED SETTING THE SECURITY 
OPTIONS AND ALLOWING ACTIVE EX CONTENT.

BUT DID NOT STILL WORK.
SO ANY IDEAS, OTHER PROGRAMS, ACTIVE EX I COULD INSTALL.
TEARING MY HAIR OUT.
THANK YOU.
MARVIN.

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I'm guessing your blind, so please don't take offence to this, but could 
you kindly move your little finger 7/16ths of an inch to its left and 
*turn off caps lock*.


As to your actual problem, try using IE8s JavaScript debugger to work 
out the actual error.

Don't use ActiveX, you'll regret it later on.

We might be able to give you more assistance if we knew the actual site, 
or had the code that was causing this.

- Josh


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Re: [WSG] javascript errors still

2010-08-03 Thread Josh Godsiff

Hi Marvin

I haven't had a chance to go through your code properly yet, but 
glancing through it, I'll suggest that the jQuery http://jquery.com 
javascript library could help in making your code a great deal more 
simple, and less likely to have bugs.


Also, Steven - why would a web-server be required, considering all he's 
dealing with is HTML and CSS? or am I missing something?


- Josh

On 4/8/2010 2:38 PM, Steven Tan wrote:

Hi Marvin,

As for your pasted code, unfortunately it's very difficult to debug 
without actually running the application and see how the error 
occurs. What you can do maybe is to try the IE8 Developer tools (I 
haven't used it much), and see if the error happens on a certain line 
number, then copy and paste the function where the line occurs and 
also any relating functions into here.


There are a number of reasons that could have broke IE with Object 
expected. It usually means IE is looking for a function and it's not 
there. You might be able to see which line the error is pointing to, 
that will give you a good start for the debugging.


One more thing, also make sure the application you are running is from 
a web server (a local IIS), and not from your local file system.


Hope this helps.

Steven


On 04/08/2010, at 1:34 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:


hi.
did any one take a look at my code.
i sent yesterday?
uninstalled internet explorer 8.
then reinstalled it.
went to the security zone.
could not seem to set it to 40%
and went to the custom link.
made sure that previous active ex, did not need to prompt.
and enabled it.
went to the internet tools.
and then to manage add-ons.
and enabled the enable button.
but i still get an error.
saying an error was made and not able to add to my shopping cart.
object explected.
any one able to help.
i have retyped the code a few times.
for both pages.
real frustrated.
thank you.
marvin.



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Re: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia

2010-08-05 Thread Josh Godsiff




It's worth nothing that typically speaking, they don't. I imagine the
threshold for accessibility is quite low, too.


  
  Presumably
also all website
which are accessed by Australians, as an Australian could complain to
Aust
Human Rights Commission about being discriminated against if website is
not
accessible.
   
  
  Evan
Bailey
  A/Manager
Knowledge Sharing Services
  Learning
Initiatives and TAFE Services
  Centre
for Learning Innovation
   
  
  Locked
Bag 2006, Strathfield NSW 2135
  P:
  (02)
9715 8130
  F:
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9715
8237 
  E:
  evan.bai...@det.nsw.edu.au
  NSW
Department of Education and Training www.cli.nsw.edu.au  
   
  
   
  
  
  From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
[mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Sue Choong
  Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 9:31 AM
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia
  
  
   
  
  Is it mandatory for all australian websites to
be accessible
or does this only apply to government websites?
  
  
   
  
  
  Just a little confused after reading article
below which
only mentioned government sites.
  
  
   
  
  
  Http://bit.ly/dddhz8 
  
  
   
  
  
  Thanks in advance. 
  
  
   
  
  
  Sue
  
  
  
On 06/08/2010, at 9:06 AM, Josh Godsiff j...@oxideinteractive.com.au
wrote:
  
  

On 5/8/2010 8:03 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote: 
 
The scenario I'm thinking of is JS available
but no CSS,
either unavailable or switched off.
 

Unless you're working on some sort of project where there's a high
likelyhood
that that will occur, don't bother - in the real world, the number of
people
with a JS-on CSS-off configuration is probably less than 0.5%.

- Josh Godsiff
-- oxideinteractive.com.au

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Re: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia

2010-08-05 Thread Josh Godsiff




Noting even, not nothing.


  
It's worth nothing that typically speaking, they don't. I imagine the
threshold for accessibility is quite low, too.
  
  

Presumably
also
all website
which are accessed by Australians, as an Australian could complain to
Aust
Human Rights Commission about being discriminated against if website is
not
accessible.
 

Evan
Bailey
A/Manager
Knowledge
Sharing Services
Learning
Initiatives
and TAFE Services
Centre
for
Learning Innovation
 

Locked
Bag
2006, Strathfield NSW 2135
P:
(02)
9715
8130
F:
(02)
9715
8237 

E:
evan.bai...@det.nsw.edu.au
NSW
Department
of Education and Training www.cli.nsw.edu.au  
 

 


From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
[mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of Sue Choong
Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 9:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia


 

Is it mandatory for all australian websites to
be accessible
or does this only apply to government websites?


 


Just a little confused after reading article
below which
only mentioned government sites.


 


Http://bit.ly/dddhz8 


 


Thanks in advance. 


 


Sue



On 06/08/2010, at 9:06 AM, Josh Godsiff j...@oxideinteractive.com.au
wrote:


  
  On 5/8/2010 8:03 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote: 
   
  The scenario I'm thinking of is JS available
but no CSS,
either unavailable or switched off.
   
  
Unless you're working on some sort of project where there's a high
likelyhood
that that will occur, don't bother - in the real world, the number of
people
with a JS-on CSS-off configuration is probably less than 0.5%.
  
- Josh Godsiff
-- oxideinteractive.com.au
  
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Re: [WSG] HTML5 offline storage question

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Godsiff
I avoid Apple products like the plague, so perhaps I'm missing some info 
here, but what's wrong with simply getting the user to download the file 
in the normal fashion?


- Josh

On 9/8/2010 3:11 PM, Breton Slivka wrote:

The iPhone has a 5mb upper limit per page. I think the ipad's limit is 10mb but 
I am not sure. So in other words, no.

-Breton

On 09/08/2010, at 2:55 PM, Andrew Harrisand...@woowoowoo.com  wrote:

   

Hi all, I'm asking around the traps on a question which has come up at work.

We want to develop an iPad app to will allow users to download from a
website (like a synch) large quantities (hundreds of MB) of documents
(pdf and word) for reading offline.

Is the offline storage tool in HTML5 designed for this sort of heavy lifting?
are there storage limitations?
on an iPad?

I've found a few examples of the tool in action and read bits and
pieces, but it all seems to be about storing small chunks of data, not
humunguous great whumps of it.

--
Andrew Harris
and...@woowoowoo.com
http://www.woowoowoo.com

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Re: [WSG] greetings

2010-08-10 Thread Josh Godsiff

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- Josh

On 10/8/2010 4:21 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

hi.
could steve please e-mail me off list.
tried to e-mail him.
but did not like his e-mail and bounced it back.
after trying for a few days.
thank you.
marvin.

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Re: [WSG] greetings

2010-08-10 Thread Josh Godsiff

 Sorry, disregard that, I misread your original email.

On 10/8/2010 5:00 PM, Josh Godsiff wrote:

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On 10/8/2010 4:21 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

hi.
could steve please e-mail me off list.
tried to e-mail him.
but did not like his e-mail and bounced it back.
after trying for a few days.
thank you.
marvin.

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