RE: [WSG] Your email requires verification verify#kdWfF4HBUy_SYGJC5A3KzB6MKspDh3nM
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:46 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Your email requires verification verify#kdWfF4HBUy_SYGJC5A3KzB6MKspDh3nM - Original Message - From: vinod chandnani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Your email requires verification verify#kdWfF4HBUy_SYGJC5A3KzB6MKspDh3nM On 2/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The message you sent requires that you verify that you are a real live human being and not a spam source. To complete this verification, simply reply to this message and leave the subject line intact. The headers of the message sent from your address are show below: From wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Fri Feb 24 21:52:22 2006 Received: from hambo by qld.correctdns.com with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCaYc-0002Tz-DX for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:52:22 +1100 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on qld.correctdns.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12, HTML_MESSAGE,INVALID_DATE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Received: from [216.119.112.83] (helo=mail.webboy.net) by qld.correctdns.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FCaYa-0002Te-UI for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:52:18 +1100 From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset=Windows-1252; boundary=SM_ee87b748-7444-4a27-8b6a-739ce9f3c023 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:45:12 1100 message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Vinod Chandnani 614.327.6962 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 2/28/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] parse error fixed
Thanks Dejan and Lachlan. The body changes allowed the page to validate. IE is not displaying the main heading but Mozilla and Opera are. I guess I can just leave it. Lori
RE: [WSG] Newcomers and Web Standards
Lachlan, I was a science major in college and went into biotech which is dominated by men. Your advice to me as a newcomer to just stick with HTML4 rather than to try to learn the right way to use XHTML right off the bat reminded me of the experiences I have had in science that I believe have been sexist. Lots of grown men behave like middle school boys that don't want to share their toys with the girls. Maybe you are wondering why I am not making quilts with the girls instead of trying to construct a web page? I think I will start attending a local user group rather than using this list as I think people behave differently face to face and maybe some women will be there. Thanks for those of you that have commented constructively about IE and tidy. I took an HTML II online course with HWG and they do not even mention text editors exist and would have saved me a lot of time. I am just using Notepad now to write SCRICT code and rather than reaching for a reference book to remember a small detail or rather than running it through a validator, I thought a text editor might help. I can certainly research text editors myself but thought my question would be interesting for this list to address in terms of trying to stick to standards. Lori -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:50 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Newcomers and Web Standards Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Yes. Why should we attempt to hide the truth from them, especially when they're just starting out and they need to lose/avoid any bad habits and mistakes as quickly as possible. Yours is a fringe and pedantic opinion, and you're being ridiculously harsh on XHTML. I have not been harsh on XHTML at all, I do like XHTML and it does have a lot of benefits when used properly, but if it's going to be used, it really needs to be done right and fully understood for what it is, or it should not be used at all. HTML is already broken beyond all repair because of all the broken implementations and people doing it wrongly without caring about the consequences, and I don't want that to happen with XHTML. Although with the number of people jumping on the XHTML bandwagon just because it's the latest and greatest standard, believing the myths that it's widely supported, usable and that their doing it correctly, when the vast majority of authors clearly aren't, has already done more damage than good. I might add that my fringe and pedantic opinion is based on fact, and that not one valid technical argument has yet been raised in this thread against any of the technical reasons I've posted. Additionally, a significant portion of the replies against me have been little more than judgements about how appropriate it was or was not for me to give such advice to a newcomer; which is not very constructive at all. I'm glad that people have been speaking up so that hopefully Lori will see that it's not so black and white an issue. I'm happy for people to speak up and challenge my views; in fact I encourage it, that's part of what forums like this are for and opinions that can't stand up to such challenges are not worth retaining. I realise the issue is not so black and white for some people, hence why this topic has been and will rehashed again and again on every forum, newsgroup, mailing lists, blog and whatever else around the world for a very long time. So, let it be discussed, and let the newcomers benefit from such discussion, but lets keep the discussion on the issue, rather than attacking another person's views without backing up your own with valid, technical arguments. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] editor
I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web pages using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor you folks that are light years ahead of me would recommend? Like HTMLTidy? I am Windows based with IE v6 which I will soon be switching to Firefox based on this list. Thank you. Lori
[WSG] page break up
Hi-I am new to CSS and strict. The URL I am having trouble with is http://members.cox.net/loricole.newhome.html. The style sheet is at http://members.cox.net.loricole/newtext.css. As you use the navigations tabs and go back to the home page, the blue background breaks up the white index card. Refreshing the screen stops it unless you tab through and cursor back again. I have IE v6. Also, I was intending for the hover of the tabs to be yellow but that does not happen. Thank you for any help. Lori
RE: [WSG] page break up
Thanks Scott, The correct order of those elements is doing the trick. Yellow appears. I did change the CSS comments to be the CSS format but that has altered some other page's format like the form entry windows and text alignment in the client page. The blue line still appears on the home page. Lori -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] page break up Hi Lori Your issue with the tabs can be quickly fixed by switching the order in your css of the #menu a:visited and #menu a:hover, so the hover is 'above' the visited declaration. The page break up looks like a guillotine bug. Need to dig more to find the cause for that! Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com Lori Cole wrote: Subject: [WSG] page break up Also, I was intending for the hover of the tabs to be yellow but that does not happen. Thank you for any help. Lori ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
