Re: [WSG] Anyone know of any good DOM tutorials?
Hmm... not sure about a tutorial, but adapting Patrick Griffaths DOM
example for avoiding email spam at
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/63.php
would give something like:
function changeClass(id, newclass){
elementToChange = document.getElementById(id);
elementToChange.setAttribute(class, newclass);
}
Then you'd need to associate this function with the element/event that
you want to use... such as:
document.getElementById(myMenuItem).onmouseover = function(){
changeClass(myMenuItem, thenewclassname)}
Actually, with the last bit I'm not too sure whether I'm mixing my old
JS habits with proper DOM coding... perhaps someone more knowledgable
can check it when they read this!
Hope it helps!
-Michael.
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:42, Seona Bellamy wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone know where I can find a good, easy to follow online tutorial on using
the DOM to control elements on a webpage? Specifically, I need to change the
class of an element to a different class.
Cheers,
Seona.
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Re: [WSG] Anyone know of any good DOM tutorials?
Seona,
Is there good reason not to use CSS psuedo classes such as :hover etc?
(http://www.htmldog.com/guides/cssintermediate/pseudoclasses/)
I guess you're doing something more complex than the example below...
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 08:28, Michael Nelson wrote:
Hmm... not sure about a tutorial, but adapting Patrick Griffaths DOM
example for avoiding email spam at
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/63.php
would give something like:
function changeClass(id, newclass){
elementToChange = document.getElementById(id);
elementToChange.setAttribute(class, newclass);
}
Then you'd need to associate this function with the element/event that
you want to use... such as:
document.getElementById(myMenuItem).onmouseover = function(){
changeClass(myMenuItem, thenewclassname)}
Actually, with the last bit I'm not too sure whether I'm mixing my old
JS habits with proper DOM coding... perhaps someone more knowledgable
can check it when they read this!
Hope it helps!
-Michael.
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 07:42, Seona Bellamy wrote:
Hi guys,
Anyone know where I can find a good, easy to follow online tutorial on using
the DOM to control elements on a webpage? Specifically, I need to change the
class of an element to a different class.
Cheers,
Seona.
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Re: [WSG] Interview markup?
What is the most semantic way to markup an interview? I've been thinking about this a bit. If I did want to find the _most semantic_ way to markup an interview (I can't imagine thinking about it if we hadn't been discussing it though ;-), why wouldn't a paragraph with a meaningful class be the best solution (such as the speaker or whether it's a question or answer)? I mean, a definition list is really for definitions, and headings are really meant for, well, headings. Given that there is no element in XHTML specifically for interview questions and answers, a paragraph is the most applicable element that is still semantically (meaningfully) correct - we just want to give it a bit more meaning with some well-chosen classes. For example, a paragraph could simply be given a class corresponding to the person speaking (class=interviewee or class=DarrinHinch) or even two classes to be more meaningful (class=interviewer statement or class=interviewer question (aside: i've seen this in XML but not sure if two values for a class is actually correct in XHTML?)) Anyway, that being said, not sure that it matters too much :-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...
... a bit much to ask? Just wondering if anyone knew of any such tutorials. Those on php.net seem as if they were written by C programmers wanting to learn php. Yet those on webmonkey are so old that they still use things like: echo FONT COLOR='red'Hi there; Makes it very hard to help HTML newbies (who've learned standards-based html from the start) learn PHP! The best I could find was: http://www.free2code.net/tutorials/programming/php/4/Introduction_to_PHP.php Any suggestions welcome! -Michael ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...
Thanks Dylan, Joshua and Nick (and Amit), for the info! Talk about 6-degrees of separation between the backend and presentation :) I'm currently facilitating a class learning HTML/CSS/JavaScript as part of a Certificate IV in WebDesign. We've been learning XHTML 1.0 from the start, separating our content/presentation etc., hopefully now as second nature! Now we spend the next 8 weeks or so learning PHP and I'm just rethinking the approach that I've used in the past. Normally we use Larry Ullman's Visual Quick-start guide, as it doesn't assume programming knowledge and is activity based, but it is usually a bit behind (such as not using super-globals $_POST etc). As the Certificate IV course is only 6 months in duration, we really need to stick to the basics of creating a small dynamic site (atm using PHP/MySQL), as the course does not assume prior programming knowledge. Anyway, thanks for all the ideas! I'd certainly like to integrate more XML and xml transforms into the course (currently we only get an overview of XML and its applications such as SVG, SMIL, RSS, XHTML etc). If you have any further ideas, please send them my way! -Michael On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:40, Dylan Egan wrote: Hi, Couldn't agree more. One other suggestion, though, is to extend that separation a little further by generating XML with PHP, and then parsing that XML into whatever templating engine you end up using. This just provides another degree of separation, and reduces the temptation to hard-code ANY HTML into your back-end... something which I wish I'd been aware of 6 months ago! This would be the best choice too, im currently working on a CMS and we're going to be using XML for the data and straight up XSL for the transformation (only because PHP5 has great XML capabilities). This allows us to seperate data from structure. Having your content available in XML will also simplify the presentation of content in other formats in the future, if you choose to do so -- thinking of syndication (RSS) amongst other things. Or converting to WML, or back to plain HTML. From a standards perspective, this separation just reduces the chance of making some early mistakes which will take ages to correct six months down the track. Just make sure you study the best choices. Joshua Street ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web design education
Ric Raftis wrote:It was interesting reading your post James because it seems that TAFEs across the country may vary widely despite courses supposedly being drawn from a national based syllabus and providing national accreditation. Related to this, I reckon one of the biggest problems causing a lack of standards in Web design education is a lack of collaboration. Each facilitator/lecturor is re-inventing the wheel with activities and resources largely due to IP restrictions within their workplace. In reality, many facilitators just end up re-using the same resources that's been used for the last 5 years because on their own they don't have time to update both their own skills and the resources they use. The ironic thing is that (nearly) all the best info on Web Design topics is being shared freely by professional designers on their blogs/sites! ... I mean, with excellent sites like http://webdesignfromscratch.com/ and http://maxdesign.com.au/ published by professionals, what is the role of an educator? My take is that if lecturors and facilitators were able to collaboratively create and update flexible learning pathways from all the great free stuff out there, we'd be in a better position to help the uptake of standards in Web design education. (Plug) : 'cause of this, I've started setting up a WebDesign Wikibook over at: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Web_Design Really it's just ordering and grouping all the great resources out there created by you professionals into some sort of learning pathway with ideas for activities... Feel free to contribute :) -- Michael Nelsonhttp://liveandletlearn.net/
