Re: [WSG] Great Radio National Podcast on Deafness
On 3/20/06 5:08 PM Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Is there a transcript of that podcast for those of us who ARE Deaf? Leslie Riggs ABC's Radio National Late Night Live program has produced a really insightful interview about Deafness. I think it's well worth a listen and might give you a good insight into deaf culture and the medical model of deafness in Australia and internationally. Deaf Culture Summary Is deafness a disadvantage or a different way of being? Members of the deaf community and medical doctors discuss the notion of a distinct 'deaf culture'. This program was originally broadcast in 1993 and won a Human Rights Award. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/lnl_20060310.mp3 25 MB runs for approximately 1 hour Lisa Herrod Senior Consultant, Usability Sure don't see any sign of a transcript on that site anyway. That is just nuts. Wow. Shame on abc.net.au. Wonder if any local laws were broken? Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Plain text v HTML on this list
On 2/21/06 11:10 PM Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: On 22 Feb 2006, at 2:50 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Outlook users should ...switch to a better mail client that isn't broken. Outllok can be configured to send plain text can't it? I think Lachlan meant that + bottom-quoting? I don't know what Lachlan meant entirely, but I 100% require plain text and top-quoting. I usually immediately delete the alternatives without reading. Too much email; too little time. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] TARGET in 4.01 Strict
On 2/16/06 1:22 AM Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Safari has this same functionality: onclick= 1 step back; onmousedown= popup menu with your recent widow history. I'm not sure how many steps it remembers, I never use Safari except for testing. Even then, there is the History (Go in some other browsers) menu to help the user out. It remembers them all afaict. Not the point. It's much simpler to close that new window that has all that history in it and go right back to my site, which is where I need my audience to be. :-) They can of course continue in that new window - their choice. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] TARGET in 4.01 Strict
All popup windows break the back button (popup as in a new window, Javascript or not). So if you are 12 clicks into the new site in the original window, you're fine with clicking back 12 times to get back to the original site? Wouldn't close window in the new window (with the 12 clicks inside) be much quicker? Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?
Why do you assume I didn't? Its this type of flawed assumptions that has caused this thread to wander all over the landscape without arriving at a solution to the problem at hand. And over the last few months, the list has devolved into unending threads that serve nothing wrt web standards. Most threads *never* end! I'm leaving. I'll check back in a few months and see what's goin' on. Have fun! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Pipe separated lists
On 12/11/05 11:34 PM Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm not denying a pipe-separated menu is a list of links. What I'm saying is that there are cases where it is not desirable to mark up a list as an html list. Marking up menus as pipe separated lists is an old web convention that has its own meaning. And the W3C still uses it: http://www.w3.org/ Touché! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Browser check Site crit please
On 11/29/05 5:59 AM Richard Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Hi everyone, I just joined this list I like it when there's a site identifier in the subject of the emails. Doesn't have to be the site name (so your customer won't find it) but just some identifier like problems with Mac browsers? or float problems or such. Thanks! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)
On 11/25/05 12:45 AM Web Man Walking [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I don¹t have a MAC I do. And it's Mac, not MAC. Mac is short for Macintosh. 1. Homepage - Text under dolls is not centred Seems okay in Safari. 2. Homepage - No logo showing If that's the green, phallic sort of thing, seems okay in Safari. 3. Rest of site - Top bar missing Yeah, there's no top bar in Safari. 5. Slow Slowness wouldn't be OS dependent. Slowness would be bandwidth or server dependent, or possibly too-big-of-graphics dependent, but those would affect all platforms. You probably know that. :-) I didn't find the site slow in Safari on my Mac, fwiw. Hth Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)
On 11/25/05 12:45 AM Web Man Walking [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I don¹t have a MAC I do. And it's Mac, not MAC. Mac is short for Macintosh. 1. Homepage - Text under dolls is not centred Seems okay in Safari. 2. Homepage - No logo showing If that's the green, phallic sort of thing, seems okay in Safari. 3. Rest of site - Top bar missing Yeah, there's no top bar in Safari. 5. Slow Slowness wouldn't be OS dependent. Slowness would be bandwidth or server dependent, or possibly too-big-of-graphics dependent, but those would affect all platforms. You probably know that. :-) I didn't find the site slow in Safari on my Mac, fwiw. Hth Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] University textbook or other resources?
On 11/22/05 4:42 PM Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Have you considered Building Accessible Websites by Joe Clark? You can read it for free online. http://www.joeclark.org/book/ Does that comprise the entire book, then? Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] University textbook or other resources?
On 11/22/05 10:45 PM Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Have you considered Building Accessible Websites by Joe Clark? You can read it for free online. http://www.joeclark.org/book/ Does that comprise the entire book, then? Never mind. There's a good explanation at the bottom of this page: http://www.joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/ Sorry for the list clutter. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders
On 11/18/05 2:16 AM James Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I think part of the problem here is that Great read. Thanks. You have many valid thoughts, and you express them well. :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] specifying width of pre
On 10/24/05 10:06 PM Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: On 10/25/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would do that, but in this particular case I was hoping not to use server-side formatting of the content. But it seems I will have to revert to that. I have never had any use for the pre tag. Now I thought I finally had my chance and it turns out to be a really useless tag. DAMN! :) It's not _completely_ useless. Just mostly. ??U ?? b O¢°???wZ-?®?©??I???wZ-?®?©??¢???w¬??xb??¢p)¢??- ax b ?-¶)?¥? What's all them funny characters? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] specifying width of pre
On 10/24/05 10:31 PM Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Am I the only one getting blank replies from Joshua? I think there're a bunch of funny characters in his posts as I recently posted. Possibly some unicode thing-a-maroo? I can't read his messages. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com
On 10/14/05 1:13 PM Collin Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [WSG] Feedback I have been a fly on the wall for some time in this group and I was really hoping to get a bit of feedback on a site I am almost finished with. Copy will change and possibly some site design before I deliver the final version. What I am hoping for is a bit of a report card- what was done well and where did I fail miserably. (BTW one of the pages does not validate right now, the client just had us insert some new links that need to be reformatted) www.mcguireomaha.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Browser Stats
On 10/12/05 10:43 PM Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: it seems like FF is loosing terrain, is w3schools accurate? It's accurate in my case. On Mac, I think FF pretty well s*cks - what with stuck menus and stalls and all that sort of thing. I went back to Safari after about 2 weeks on FF. Don't know about Windows at all. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Background Alignment
On 10/4/05 12:00 AM Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Everything looks fine the only difference is 1 pixel between IE and FF. Has anyone encounter a similar problem? Note: The background is 700px in width. How wide is the background image? Perhaps it's simply a rounding issue that can be resolved by making the image an even number of pixels wide. 700px is even... Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WE05 - who's going?
On 9/26/05 10:24 PM Jake Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'll be there http://www.flickr.com/photos/webessentials/44913770/ Hi, Could anyone fill out more photos' legends? S' cool to match some names with faces, since I'm here in USA and will never be able to go to WE and meet you all. Thanks! Rick Faaberg Ps. Here's me: http://www.namtc.org/images/rickf.jpg Not really, just teasing! :-) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Showing Transparent - APOLOGY
On 9/16/05 11:15 PM Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: russ wrote you should warn members if you are providing a link that goes to questionable, offensive or adult content. Mani Sheriar wrote: But I do still need help with this issue if anyone can look past the questionable material. ;~) This list needs no ground rule like - Warning ... Content - Apologies for the questionable material, but ... I think this list needs no but ... nor Warning Where do we draw the line on these sites? Is an image of a lady sunbathing nude on a beach over the line? *I* wouldn't think so, but even that might bother others, I suppose. You get my drift, I'm sure. I'm for something like site check please whatever.com [adult] in the subject. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] teaching students developing to web standards
On 9/11/05 6:07 PM Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Wasn't this question asked not long ago? Shouldn't people at least try to check the archives first? I sure haven't seen K-12 teachers mentioned here lately (they are a different breed, you know?), but maybe I missed it! ;-) Have a link to a thread in the archive? Thanks! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] teaching students developing to web standards
Hi all, I need to convince a bunch of K-12 teachers to teach web standards instead of tables-for-layout and FrontPage and Publisher type of thing to their students. Besides W3C, what sites should I point to for teachers who really have no idea with any of this, and won't read umpteen sites to figure all this out? Any lesson plans out there, by chance? :-) Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon
On 9/7/05 1:19 AM John Allsopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: The simple fact remains, that in my research into some of the biggest and most popular Australian web sites, not a single site out of about 100 I have surveyed, which is table based has been valid. And the errors in table based sites have been almost invariably associated with the table markup. Umm, so folks who do tables for layout don't care about W3C validation. This is a revelation? Best, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] (sorry about the double post!) EOM
On 8/30/05 12:25 PM scott reston [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: And now you've made it a triple. We all understand this happens. Don't apologize. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox
On 8/23/05 10:25 PM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: i just downloaded the accessibar at the mozdev web site. it's got a built in reader; so if you have speakers or a headset you can hear how accessible your page is in a reader. it's not superior quality audio, but it definitely gives you a sense of what's on the page. the tool bar is for folks with accessibility issues. maybe i'm getting into gadgets for accessibility, but as a visual artist and web designer, i'm caring more about standards and accessibility more each day. check it out, it's a cool firefox/mozilla extension. Is there some way to install and execute on Mac OSX? Anybody has done it? Thanks Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox
On 8/23/05 11:42 PM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Is there some way to install and execute on Mac OSX? Anybody has done it? i would assume so, it's a browser extension, so it should function on mac osx. I would assume that also, but the installation complained greatly about my Java environment and then I had to abort installation. Wondering if anybody's done the install successfully on OSX, especially on 10.3.9 (and how they did it). Maybe it shouldn't be on this list though. Email is fine if anybody has useful info for me. Thanks! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility with Firefox
On 8/24/05 9:55 AM dwain alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Rick Faaberg wrote: I would assume that also, but the installation complained greatly about my Java environment and then I had to abort installation. that's interesting, especially if you have the latest java environment. i think there is a link to contact the owner of the project on one of the pages for the accessibar. you might want to go that route. JRE 5 is not available for OSX yet, as far as I can tell. Oh, well. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessibility, the possibilities
On 8/22/05 10:18 PM Damian Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I get a 404 for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/ Works for me. and a page full of articles for http://www.alistapart.com/topics/userscience/accessibility/ 404 Okay, now everybody immediately clear caches and turn off proxy and try again, okay? :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Increase/Decrease font size functionality?
On 8/16/05 12:15 AM Bennie, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Does anyone know any good code to implement Increase/Decrease font size functionality to web pages? Power To The People: Relative Font Sizes Bojan Mihelac http://www.alistapart.com/articles/relafont/ Here¹s a simple solution for text resizing that respects users¹ choices and also gives them an additional option for resizing. Hth Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] RE: Hot Topic: HTML design
The beauty of this is that you can include xslt libraries to pretty much rewrite the most horrid html to clean standards based xhtml. The additional bonus of this is that you can rearrange the semantic layout of the html at will using nothing more than xslt. Before I unsub because you all are way over my head, how do you know this? Do you just pull it out of your *ss? I guess I just don't see where this type of info is readily available and accessible without a lot of pain and reading 100s of websites. Are there textbooks that cover this stuff? Or does W3C just make it up and so there never could be a textbook? Seems crazy Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
On 8/9/05 3:00 AM Brendan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I've come crawling back with some issues. I never seem to be much help to anyone else - I hope someone can help me here. Grey tiny text. del msg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Logic?
On 8/8/05 2:05 AM Vinod Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Dear Prabhat Please don't send this type of message. Hope by mistake this type of message are coming in my id.. I am not related to this message. Please do the needful. Regd VINOD It seems you need to login to the Web Standards Group server and unsubscribe. Go here http://webstandardsgroup.org/ and scroll down and do the Member Login. Then, click on Unsubscribe and you'll be on your way very soon. Is that what you need? Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My life as an 800x600 leper (was: Site Check: Broadleaf)
On 7/26/05 12:12 AM SunUp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: so, seriously folks, am i wrong to hope that a site will look right in my browsing environment? should i get with the current trend and go 1024+ ? Not that everyone has one, but do you realize that there are monitors that support 2560 x 1600 pixels? http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html 800x600 seems a bit prehistoric... Now, you should think about getting your shift key fixed! ;-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf
On 7/25/05 2:50 AM Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: But how about cutting down the size of your emails and making them plain text? No need to repeatedly quote 40k of text with all that Micro$oft formatting in it. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design 100% agreement here. *Please* no more rtf/html posts here! I delete rtf/html posts immediately and other people do too I know for a fact. B-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s
On 7/22/05 7:10 PM csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content. This was on this list recently: --- quoting Looks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution to that common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottom of the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, which doesn't overlap the content when the window is resized: Explanation: http://solardreamstudios.com/learn/css/footerstick/ Example: http://solardreamstudios.com/_img/learn/css/footerstick/footerstick.html --- end quoting Seems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac. Hth, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site
I happened acrosss this site on stylegala. http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/ I would like to know what the list members think of the site There are quite a number of CSS validation errors (W3C online validator). Seems to be valid XHTML strict (W3C again). Attractive, interesting design imho. Layout blows up with text-resizing, though. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] footer technique
On 7/16/05 4:01 AM Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Explanation: http://solardreamstudios.com/learn/css/footerstick/ Example: http://solardreamstudios.com/_img/learn/css/footerstick/footerstick.html Apparently it doesn't work in IE5 Mac or Safari. IE5 Mac I can mostly live without, but Safari is a bit of a bugger. I don't have a Mac here so I can't test - I'm curious as to whether it can be made to degrade acceptably. Could someone with a Mac please check the test page? It appears to work in Safari for me (Safari 1.3). Doesn't work in IE 5.2.x - the footer goes up tight to the content and not down to bottom of viewport. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] footer technique
On 7/16/05 4:15 AM Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Apparently it doesn't work in IE5 Mac or Safari. IE5 Mac I can mostly live without, but Safari is a bit of a bugger. I don't have a Mac here so I can't test - I'm curious as to whether it can be made to degrade acceptably. Could someone with a Mac please check the test page? It appears to work in Safari for me (Safari 1.3). Doesn't work in IE 5.2.x - the footer goes up tight to the content and not down to bottom of viewport. And I meant to add that the IE 5.2.x behavior is most likely an acceptable graceful degradation. Hth Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] HR - Presentation or Structure?
On 7/12/05 3:06 AM Nathan Rutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: However, I think if we look at the larger use of horizontal rules in other mediums, we'll see that there's still a place for them on the web, especially if we want a web that can store content from those other mediums. Can you 'xplain what that means? Maybe I missed your point. Seems like bloviating. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?
On 7/11/05 4:51 PM Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I think the flip side is that a) newbies need to see the 'advanced' stuff to learn by osmosis and b) its really good for gurus to see the newbie questions (and maybe occasionally answer them? Hint, hint people ;)) to keep them grounded. I concur. Whenever I've seen a 'newbie' list split, most if not all of the subscribers are newbies - doesn't exactly advance their science. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?
But I don't even open Help Needed type subject lines. And I never read HTML/RTF email either. Text is too small. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page structure - navigation
On 6/23/05 6:32 PM Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Studies (sorry, can't find the url, but think it came via Joe Clark) have shown that a lot of screen reader users don't understand the concept of 'skip to' and consequently ignore those links. Is there something wrong with go to whatever section? Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] *DETECTED* Online User Violation
On 5/31/05 1:47 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: We regret to inform you that your account has been suspended due to the violation of our site policy, more info is attached. Detected what? What did I do so wrong? Man, I thought I was a good citizen here. Thank you, Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Definition lists for comments in blogs
On 5/30/05 4:49 AM Rowan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: What would be wrong with doing something like this? h3Comment Title/h3 p Posted by foobar on foobar /p div p Comment text /p /div The only thing I can think of is: are you aware of the origin of fubar (which is the correct spelling of foobar)? It's totally weird how usage of fubar has been so distorted on the web. Whatever. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com
On 5/23/05 11:33 PM Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I can't speak for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions). Makes it hard to recommend for verifying print output (assuming it would be at all accurate in the first place). On FF Mac, just choose File Print and then click on Preview button. No? Hth, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Formatting tables
On 5/11/05 12:02 AM Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I find that it often helps to add a border in the html which then limits you to only using HTML 4 or XHTML 1.0 Transitional Would that be bad? If so, why would that be bad? I sure read differing opinions on all this XHTML and whatever stuff as being worthwhile. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Regarding Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified
Hi all, Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170513rl=1 I find it slightly humorous/ironic that that page has significant wrapping problems in Safari. Haven't checked other browsers. Whatever! ;-) Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Regarding Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified
On 4/24/05 1:16 AM Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Ah - did you wait for the ad to load? It was slow coming for me, and until it did, it *looked* like bad line wrapping - but was in fact OK... N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ (Safari 1.3 / OS X 10.3.9) On 24 Apr 2005, at 4:05 PM, Rick Faaberg wrote: Hi all, Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170513rl=1 I find it slightly humorous/ironic that that page has significant wrapping problems in Safari. Haven't checked other browsers. Yeah I waited for the ad, but even then the header text for a section was next to the graphic for the prior section, if you know what I mean - like this: [thumbnail for section 4] Header Text for Section 5 but should be [thumbnail for section 4] Header Text for Section 5 Doesn't mean much in the big picture I guess. :-0 Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE7 update
On 4/23/05 3:53 AM Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Exciting stuff! Wouldn't be a strange world if we didn't curse developing for IE? It sure would be! :-) Lea ~ looking for a position in Brisbane. Contact me for CV. Rick ~ looking for a position in Hillsboro/Portland! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] JavaScript and escaped quotes
On 4/14/05 2:51 AM Juergen Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: var msg=Don't Look Now; /script a href=# onclick=alert(msg)Don't Look Now/abr / This works. But what to do if the message also needs inside? Can we keep the javascript cr*p off this list? Thanks! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Client wants flashing text
On 4/14/05 2:48 PM Jeff Oien [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: When a client wants some flashing text for emphasis, what do you do or tell them? I've seen some fairly tasteful things done with Flash to provide visual interest. Maybe something as simple as horizontal scroll or simple animation in Flash would do? Rick Ps. Sorry for my outburst yesterday on the list re: javascript. I have no excuse and I'll not repeat that behavior any time soon. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?
On 4/11/05 10:39 PM tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: In my web design site, I do brag about web standards and that I care, but when I talk to potential clients (so far only two), I didn't even mention it; they didn't ask either even though they have visited my site. To me, web standards is something I believe in, but I do not see any benefit when approaching potential clients. My two accounts don't give a rat's *ss about web standards. They want their product up-front-center and they want to close sales. On one of my accounts, I've learned this the hard way. IMO, we use web standards for our convenience and efficiency - doesn't have anything to do with the clients' needs unless you have clients that somehow have a 'nut' for web standards. I don't have any currently. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] flash and accessabilty
On 4/9/05 1:01 AM Absalom Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm still only recieving one copy of everyone else's post on the list apart from scott. You might as well set a trash/junk mail rule. That's what I've done. HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE
On 4/9/05 1:19 AM Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Please unsubscribe me. I think you need to login here to unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/ HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] flash and accessabilty
On 4/9/05 1:01 AM Absalom Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm still only recieving one copy of everyone else's post on the list apart from scott. You might as well set a trash/junk mail rule. That's what I've done. HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Comments on new wirelessforum.org.nz site?
On 4/7/05 12:53 AM Sigurd Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: We just 'soft launched' a new website, http://www.wirelessforum.org.nz, so that we can gather a final set of feedback and changes for a Monday meeting to see the project finished next week. The entire site is XHTML 1.1, CSS2, WCAG-AAA compliant, and makes good use of semantic markup, e.g. no tables for layout, lists for menus, H1/H2/H3 in appopriate places, as well as lists of news items, events, etc on pages. Am wanting this to be a good portfolio item for our web standards compliance, so if anyone can point out things in our markup or CSS to make it even more bullet proof, or find any holes, that would be fantastic :P I've submitted it to http://w3csites.com/sites.asp, so I want to ensure it has a valid home there! Very nice looking site, if that helps. The two Comimg Up boxes have the dates overlapping the bottom border in Safari (latest) fwiw. Haven't surfed much beyond the main page. I'll report anything that I see down below the main page if I get to it. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Comments on new wirelessforum.org.nz site?
On 4/7/05 12:53 AM Sigurd Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: We just 'soft launched' a new website, http://www.wirelessforum.org.nz, so that we can gather a final set of feedback and changes for a Monday meeting to see the project finished next week. One other thing is that I'd put 3-6 pixels of margin at the top of the page. I think that looks attractive generally since the other three sides have big margins. My opinion only! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Website Check (hopkinsprogramming.net)
I've recently re-done my website. Everybody put the title or URL of the website in the website check message subject, okay? Thanks! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Orange and Blue
On 2/24/05 3:16 PM John [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Has anyone (else) noticed an increase in sites implementing primarily orange and blue color schemes? Is this for accessibility or other considerations, or just the 2005 look? It's getting annoying. Aren't those the phpbb colors? And sort of open source colors? Rick Faaberg Ps. Everybody stop sending HTML email to here okay? I, for one, usually immediately delete such mail without reading it since normally the font is way too small. Sorry for the negativity. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Standards and site structuring
On 2/21/05 7:53 PM Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: To kick off with an example would anyone say to a client We should probably call this Contact Us as everyone expects and homes in on that wording when they need make contact I think that becomes absurd really quick, and ultimately leads to software creating websites with no human intervention required. :-( Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!
On 2/4/05 2:01 AM csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Another method would be to send lots of emails to random people YEAH!! spam them to death lol This list is way out of control and I'm going to leave unless somebody retakes control. I do care about this list when it's under control - otherwise, bye bye. Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Navigation principals
On 1/29/05 4:22 PM Stefen Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm trying to put together a document on navigation principals to improve site usability Should be principles but otherwise I'm looking forward to the result! Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Review of website please
On 1/21/05 1:22 AM Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: 380k+ flash animation on the home page is just obnoxious... but following that up with 220k+ on the next page... I'm lost for words. Terrence Wood. In the Americas somewhere on broadband, I can't even get the page to load, fwiw. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: My Apologies Defence !! RE: [WSG] 2 WEEKS TONIGHT! Funkdub @ City Bar, Chester
On 1/15/05 4:54 AM Sam Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Ok, first off I apologise that this mailing list accidentally received this promotional email. I installed a new list manager and it took everything from my main funkdub folder, unfortunatley there were some email addresses it added to the list which it shouldn't have, including obviously, this one. I am currently reviewing and rectifying this email distribution list and you won't receive these emails in the future. Please do not ban remove me from this WSG list as I find it very useful. I thought sure I recognized you as a very useful contributor here, so I assumed the post from your address was some sort of error (either address book hijack or something similar) and so I just deleted the message and moved on. I don't know why some people get so bent out of shape with what is such an obvious errant message and can't realize that they need to just hit delete on these things. The bent people owe you an apology in my opinion. Sigh Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check
if people could check this site My response has nothing to do with your's or anybody's specific request but I think folks should specify something wrt web standards that they are requesting evaluation or feedback with/about in their message other than please check this on your Mac browsers or please check this in your PC browsers. Also, it would be cool if folks would provide some parenthetical reference to what website we're talking about since site check occurs with great regularity - like site check www.mywonderfulsite.com in the email subject. See ya! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web Design in 2005
On 12/29/04 10:17 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: They suggested that the looks that are out, or dated are, ...Retro; Swiss/Euro; Minimal; that standards-compliant look, which I thought some of you might find an interesting read. http://www.fortymedia.com/2005-web-design-forecast.fhtml Very interesting read. Thanks I agree about the web standards look. It's generally very tired and bland. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] HOW DO I KNOW THAT MY HTML FILE HEADER IS BEING SENT CORRECTLY?
On 12/21/04 12:38 AM Charles Slack [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I am just setting myself up to try Perl scripting. My first job is to set the Character Set and MIME Type to be sent in the header. What test should I carry out to make sure that the header is correct? Shouldn't your query be sent to a Perl discussion list? Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review plz
On 12/15/04 11:59 PM Jacobus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: The url: http://www.azapi.com/ We are launching a new XHTML/CSS based CMS soon and would really appreciate your comments. We have launched the brochureware site already, and the CMS is 99% finished, it will launch mid Jan 2005. I look forward to your response! Much of the type is very, very small in Firefox Mac, so I can't read it. Examples: all the nav_n styles, sidebar, footer, accesskey, and poweredby. That's just on the first page. I didn't look at any other pages. HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS rounded box generator
first of all, greetings and let me introduce myself. I'm Carlos Rincón a web programmer of Neurotic (http://www.neuroticweb.com), a spanish web designers company. I've just made a frontend of Hard Grog Cafe CSS rounded box generator. http://www.neuroticweb.com/recursos/css-rounded-box/ I'll take into account all the suggestions and critics -- Carlos Rincón Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very, very nice. Any ideas on how I could put a rounded stripe of color with text in it across the top of the generated box? Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] unsubscribe info
On 12/12/04 11:52 PM Glenn [futureAustralia.net] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: there is no unsubscribe information at the footer of the WSG emails or on the email list information page. where is it? Surf to http://webstandardsgroup.org/ and login (lower right part of the page). Then you can unsubscribe by clicking on Unsubscribe. HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] A standards compliant remake.
On 12/11/04 4:15 AM Clayton Lengel-Zigich [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: The navigation looks like some kind of 16 color rainbow! :P That's all I noticed right away, it is late however. - Clayton On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:54:28 +1100, Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jolorence, What was the URL again? Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
On 12/5/04 7:53 PM Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: List aren't two-dimensional, they're one-dimensional, but bent through two dimensions. Just as the surface of a ball is only two-dimensional, yet it's bent into three dimensions. Home - News - Today's News - Summary Home - News - Today's News - Detail Home - News - Yesterday's News - Summary Home - News - Yesterday's News - Detail etc. If you leave any nodes out, you've lost your way. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] NN4 - Anyone Care?
On 12/4/04 9:01 PM Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Why is there such an emphasis on NN4? Who actually still uses this? Cash-strapped K-12 schools and other public agencies in the US have old, decrepit hardware and OSs that don't do well with more current browsers, for example. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] contacting list members
On 11/29/04 12:15 PM Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I looked at the main web site to see if there was a way to contact members. I was interested in getting some information from people in different countries about the standards environment where they live. I found that there were four people on the list from France, 21 in Spain, 7 in Romania, ... but no way of finding out who they are. I wouldn't think it would be so terrible to just ask on the list - for example Anybody from Spain on the list could you tell us about the standards environment in Spain? Sure seems related to web standards, but I could be wrong. :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument.
On 11/25/04 7:00 PM Jixor - Stephen I [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: To be honest I don't understand how building using standards could cost more unless you simply don't know what your doing. Its really as simple as that, there is no extra work involved in using standards, if anything its less work. Building using standards is a choice not an extra. Keep studying those apostrophes though - plurals vs. possessives vs. contractions, etc.! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] How not to inherit
On 11/20/04 8:24 PM Lee Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
begin code
a:hover {
background-color: #dedede;
color: #385468;
text-decoration: none;
}
#navbar-main a:hover, #navbar a:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
}
/end code
The problem is, I don't want the navbar rule to inherit the color and
background-color declarations from the previous rule. Suggestions?
What do you want those attributes inherited from then?
I'd say you need to declare them in the second declaration to set them for
navbar-main.
I'm missing the point I'm sure.
Erik Fåberg
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Re: [WSG] Font size ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED
On 11/19/04 4:02 AM Brett Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Here here. Make that hear, hear and you're on! :-) Best, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Request : theatre.msu.edu
On 11/18/04 10:49 PM Jonathan T. Sage [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Been working on this for quite a while, would love to hear what folks have to say about it. Please note I am aware of the brokenness of the 'Theatre Archive'. Thanks Much! http://theatre.msu.edu Not to be negative, but if you care - it's busted on Mac IE 5.2.x. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
I just launch my new site: http://www.cesargarcia.com I wait for your commentaries. Regards cesar · cesargarcia.com www.cesargarcia.com 'Mr. Broken Record' here... it's busted on Mac IE 5.2.x if you care. But on Safari it's fine and I am VERY impressed with your design and execution (providing the contrast is pumped up a bit in some areas as per previous feedback). Great job overall IMO. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Design template for CMS, any thougts?
I would really appreciate some quality feedback on this subject as the cms is suppose to be finished yesterday :-) The template is validated XHTML and CSS. The link to the html (xhtml) is http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/ and the stylesheet is located at http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/sitestyle.css Your design width is pretty wide for smaller monitors it seems to me. It takes perhaps 2/3 of the width of my 20 inch monitor in Safari to see it all. Maybe if the center content part could be fluid that would help. Also the what I believe to be Search Webdeal form is hanging out to the right as the only content there. Maybe it's supposed to be above Siste artikler? In Safari it is not. There is nearly infinite white space below your page content in Safari (current version). I can scroll down for hours and see only white. I'm not sure I'd ever go with full-justified text, but maybe that's a personal thing. I just don't really like extra space between words that only serves to full-justify the text. Loads fast - clean design - and here I am of Norwegian descent (1/2) and understand none of the language ;-( HTH Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
On 11/12/04 12:57 AM Iain Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Here in the UK, the Mac was never specially popular. What's the data that supports that statement? Especially given that the Mac holds the major proportion of designers' platform of choice! (oops - this is off-topic for this list) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: Re[4]: [WSG] Float Problem on IE Mac
On 11/12/04 1:21 AM Iain Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Sales figures. Market share. Web stats. Globally, the Mac is under 2.5% on web stats. Gee, I wish *I* owned 2.5% of *any* global market! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] css scrolling
On 11/12/04 9:21 PM Bennie Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I'm playing around with css scrolling and would like to know if there is a way to stop the scrolling list from resetting to the top of the list in IE 6 or just jumping back up the list in FF. Unrelated, but after clicking and scrolling around and clicking etc. in Safari, eventually the page goes numb - no scrolling, no clicking, no rollovering works. FWIW Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] International Pages Check
On 11/11/04 11:24 PM Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: This site is still well and truly in draft stage (I know - the menu is still up the spout!) but looking for feedback specifically on the internationalisation of the following pages: Aside from anything else, I think you need captions (or whatever the stds thing is) for all those flags. I recognize one of them - guess which one! Rick Faaberg ps. Your server is really slow to deliver to over here in North America. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check please
On 11/10/04 1:44 AM Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: The time for Sydney is also one hour off, it says 07:40 PM when it should be 08:40PM looks like you need to add some backend logic to adjust dates for daylight savings PHP always uses server time AFAIK and there's no way to adjust for time zones since PHP cannot determine what time zone a client is in, at least in the research I did a couple of years ago. Javascript can use the client computer's clock time, but PHP cannot as it's a server-side language. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Brisbane November Meeting Canc^h^h^h - Postponed
On 11/9/04 12:07 AM Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Due to the unpredictability, and in some cases dangerous nature, of the weather at this time, the Brisbane WSG meeting for Wednesday 10th November has been postponed. But Lea you promised to personally serve me cake! :-) Just kidding - I'll be quiet. Hope everybody will be safe, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 6 days of WSG meeting frenzy
On 11/7/04 10:46 PM Cameron Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Wait a minute! You guys get cake!? But they can't eat it too! :-) Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Access key in IE6
On 11/3/04 9:59 PM The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: PA accesskey=0 HREF=#Table alt=Click here to return table of Contents (Accesskey ALT + 0)click here to return to table of Contents or press ALT + 0/A/P Why does this access key work fine in Firefox 1.0 and not in IE6? HTML: http://www.asic.bc.cx/ASICAboutUs.php It doesn't appear to work in FF Mac or Safari either. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Access key in IE6
On 11/3/04 10:06 PM Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: On 11/3/04 9:59 PM The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: PA accesskey=0 HREF=#Table alt=Click here to return table of Contents (Accesskey ALT + 0)click here to return to table of Contents or press ALT + 0/A/P Why does this access key work fine in Firefox 1.0 and not in IE6? HTML: http://www.asic.bc.cx/ASICAboutUs.php It doesn't appear to work in FF Mac or Safari either. Spoke a little too soon - pressing ctrl-0 on FF Mac and Safari works fine. Works on IE 5.x Mac as well. You might say ctrl-0 etc for Mac users. No idea about IE Win. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page Check
On 11/3/04 10:36 PM David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Comments and suggestions on this page welcome. http://www.dlaakso.com/ Thanks. There appear to be some accessibility warnings on WAI and 508. Cool site! Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox Promotion
On 10/22/04 7:20 AM Trovster [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: If anyone can help, you can either email me personally or keep it on the list. I'd keep it off list. This list is getting too much questionable content these days. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] w3c badges
Hi all, Who can I send a suggestion to at W3C that they make their web badges a lot more subtle (and smaller) so that I would actually use them on my sites? Or do I just put up text that says W3C Valid? Is that what you do? Or just forget it entirely, 'cause who beside developers care in the first place? Best, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] w3c badges
I also agree with your last point - the general public neither knows nor cares about this stuff. We developers only do it for self-congratulation and brownie points from other developers and standards zealots. I'd certainly think twice (or more) before putting them on a client's site. What is your opinion (and practice) with regard to putting the W3C badges on you clients' sites? I'm thinking just don't do it. Best, Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] w3c badges
On 10/17/04 8:58 PM Michael Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Here are two nicer looking ones http://blog.dalegroup.net/images/validx.gif (xhtml 1.1) http://blog.dalegroup.net/images/validc.gif (css) Michael Dale Those are pretty nice! Are there more? Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query
On 10/13/04 1:13 AM Jackie Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a
last alternative
what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings
reply...
Do a sans-serif or serif as the last specified font. Those are generic
family font specs.
p { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular,
sans-serif }
HTH
Rick Faaberg
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Re: [WSG] height bug in Safari... any ideas?
On 10/11/04 12:43 AM Tania Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: The designer wanted the background image to show on larger screens if possible, and while it involved some tweaking to get the various browsers to accept the 100% height, and it's working on win 6 Moz, IE Mac 5.2 etc, but I'm having problems in Safari. Hi, What are the problems? It seems to work pretty well on my 20 screen with Safari. Slightly weird layout IMO, but it seems to be 100% filled and all that. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window?
On 10/6/04 1:48 AM Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Have a look at Disability Online (http://www.disability.vic.gov.au) - they solve it quite nicely by opening external links in new windows, yet providing little icons which inform the user that the link will open new windows. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of john Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2004 2:30 AM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] thoughts of external links in new window? Some of my usability team are telling me that they prefer to have external links going into a new browser window. I can see why some would like that, but I can also see why others would frown on it. I don't have a screen reader, but does a screen reader say new window or something on those links? Thanks Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts
On 10/4/04 11:22 PM Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Name Price Quantity EditDelete Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] Pear $4.00 3 [edit] [delete] Banana $12.00 5 [edit] [delete] But without cluttering the HTML with table layout data... Or is this a case where its better to bite the bullet and just do it in a table...? I vote for it's tabular data - use a table. Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts
On 10/5/04 12:05 AM Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: RF I vote for it's tabular data - use a table. Cool, thought so... I was thinking that because it was more a navigation device to edit items, rather than a display of tabular information, it would be better implemented a different way. You do have a point though that the buttons are kind of the main act. But if those data are coming from a database and are being output via a script language for example, I think a table is the most convenient way to present the data and the buttons. It boggles my small intellect to think about outputting CSS positioning and stuff from PHP or whatever, although somebody's working on that I'm sure! :-) Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] shrinking p whitespace
Hi, This is my first request for help to this list I think. Hope it's appropriate since it's kind of a CSS help thing but I can't bear going back on css-discuss if you know what I mean. ;-) At here: http://www.lucernemedia.com/ I'm trying to shrink the whitespace after the video titles (.video_title is the relevant style I'm pretty sure). See anything obvious that's keeping the whitespace so big after the titles? Stylesheet here: http://www.lucernemedia.com/css/newestbase.css CSS and markup mainly validate, with a few margin errors perhaps. TIA Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] shrinking p whitespace
On 9/28/04 4:06 AM Mark Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
as for the whitespace around the P have you removed padding and margin from
it?
and if so have you removed it from any surrounding elemenets? thats normaly
the main cause of whitespace around a P
All I've specified for p is a font family...
p { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular,
sans-serif }
As far as surrounding elements, I hoped you folks would spot something
obvious that I'm missing because I've looked real hard. :-)
Thanks,
Rick
http://www.lucernemedia.com/
SS http://www.lucernemedia.com/css/newestbase.css
Need to get rid of the white space after the video titles - the style is
video_title
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