Re: [WSG] Fieldset background

2007-07-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
David Laakso wrote: IE6 doesn't appear to render the background correctly in a fieldset with a legend (extends beyond top border). Is there a fix or alternatively how would you hide the background-color from IE6 only. Georg Sortun, who is on vacation and unable to reply to the list directly,

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-14 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Diego La Monica I wrote an article about this, this solution does not require extra markup. http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/popup_window_with_no_extra_markup.asp Exactly, i wrote the mentioned script in this thread that identify by itself the external links and leave to the

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-14 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Diego La Monica What i've said is: to use windowed Links in it's base configuration you need only to insert into the head block of your page the script element and any element in your html structure identified (id) as windowedLinks. That's all. But applying this ID to some

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Diego La Monica Yes is the only extramarkup, but you don't need really to add it: in the head of the script there is a configuration block that allow you to choose in which element (identified by its id) you would put the control for the user to open in same/new window the

RE: [WSG] Toggle L2 menu items (within WCAG)

2007-10-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Simon Cockayne I've started down the rod of using DOM scripting...to remove the L2 items when the page loads and then toggle there addition/removal when a L1 item is clickedbut the JS is getting complicated...trying to support IE and Firefox. Is there a CSS way that can:

RE: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-10-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
B) Then I use external (unobtrusive) Javascript window.onload to remove (via DOM Scripting) all the L2 elements*...this works...but I do see an initial flicker..i.e you can discern the original page momentarily and then the L2 items being removed. I'd not use the onload approach to hide the

[WSG] How z-index works

2007-10-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comments that would help me improve this tool: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/z-index/teach_yourself_how_elements_stack.asp Thanks, -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] How z-index works

2007-10-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com I'd appreciate any comments that would help me improve this tool: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/z-index/teach_yourself_how_elements_stack.asp That's really cool Thierry :-) Thanks Mike BTW: congrats for your move with the Guild :) -- Regards,

RE: [WSG] How z-index works

2007-10-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comments that would help me improve this tool: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/z-index/teach_yourself_how_elements_stack.asp OK, this is obviously not an isolated occurrence anymore. I've tried to look at your site 3 times now in the last couple of weeks Thierry and can

RE: [WSG] POSH article question

2007-11-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Of course, if there was a tag for 'foreign language word' then the best choice (for the example above) would be to use that -- but there isn't. Perhaps the most semantic solution in the above example would be to wrap the word in a span with a class assigned, like so: HTML: p We say yes, but

RE: [WSG] POSH article question

2007-11-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
p lang=enWe say yes, but the French say span lang='fr'Oui/ span/p CSS: .foreignWord {font-style: italic;} [lang] { font-style: italic; } [lang=en] { font-style: normal; } What about: span[lang] { font-style: italic; } As a side note, I believe the attribute value should be between

RE: [WSG] POSH article question

2007-11-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Of course, if there was a tag for 'foreign language word' then the best choice (for the example above) would be to use that -- but there isn't. Perhaps the most semantic solution in the above example would be to wrap the word in a span with a class assigned, like so: HTML: p We say yes, but

RE: [WSG] z-index problem with dropdown menu

2007-11-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
John Faulds wrote: http://www.tyssendesign.com.au/sites/evolved/sax/ I can't figure out why the dropdowns fall behind the content below them. Can anybody see what I'm obviously missing? :? Hi John, It's a stacking context issue [1], so increasing the z-index value of the dropdown won't

RE: [WSG] Javascript Dropdown Problems

2007-11-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of James Jeffery I have a list of links with a nested list within one for the li's. The nested listed is hidden from view and made visable when the user clicks the parent li.   It works fine, apart from for accessibility reasons how should i implement this list? Users with JS

RE: [WSG] Best way to clear a float

2007-11-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of John Faulds *Sometimes* I find this works: #parent {overflow: auto;} You need to combine that with a width for it to work in IE. I think it is a hasLayout issue, so it is possible to make it work without having to declare a width (using zoom:1 for example). You might also

[WSG] How to better center the YUI overlay

2007-11-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
For those using YUI: Article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/hacking_the_YUI_container_script.asp Frameset to help you compare both solutions: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/YUI_overlay/comparison.html HTH, -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using

RE: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
It's not an abbreviated form of the full date by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to the microformats crowd - they've practically stretched the idea of abbreviation to anything, just so they can fit their machine readable data into the page... Exactly, and this is the kind

RE: [WSG] About Lightbox and SEO

2007-12-03 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Matheus Neves Hi all, I see everybody using lightbox as a good solution for photo galeries, i´d like to know if anyone now anything about it´s SEO friendliness and if it´s also following acessibility guidelines. I did something not as nice as lightbox, but IMHO a bit more

RE: [WSG] Comment mark

2007-12-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I would like to appologize if I am off topic. I am not sure who to ask. I am using !-- ... --! to comment out a line in a PHP file. Firefox2.x will use it to comment out a link and IE7 will not use. Am I doing the commenting a line out right? For an HTML comment, you should use !-- ...

[WSG] How to contain float without structural markup

2007-12-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi all, I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/clearing-floats_and_block-formatting_context.a sp The demo: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/block-formatting_context/newBFC.asp Thanks -- Regards, Thierry |

RE: [WSG] Re: inline styles theoretical question

2008-01-01 Thread Thierry Koblentz
only CSS in an external stylesheet gets cached... ok john that settles it. no more inline styles in my forms. thanks. If this is to style one single document, IMHO it'd make sense to keep these rules within the head of the document rather than in an external styles sheet. -- Regards, Thierry

[WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
My apologies for cross-posting. I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp Demo: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no _joke.asp -- Regards, Thierry |

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
My apologies for cross-posting. I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp Demo: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css- layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no _joke.asp I'll cross-post, too -

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Does your approach deal with any column any order? Is this a possibility? Hi Karl, As it says on this page [1]: The sequence of the columns depends on the source order... As far as I know, display:table doesn't let us play with columns the same way we can do with floats. [1]

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
OOps sorry, read your demo page and it doesn't. Sure, your visual tabbing might not be the same, which can be confusing ;-) but for semantics and SEO, I think its fairly important to have major content ahead of secondary content in source-order. I don't know. In my 5+ years old web site

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post): DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document Really? According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear: DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post): DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document Really? According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear: DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a hierarchy of divisions.

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp Demo: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/ no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no _joke.asp Nice write-up. One of the issues with this technique: you

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote: The problem is with the standard. If one gets too hung up on semantic markup then there is the risk of bending the logical or implied semantics of an element to suit ones project. I submit that in the absence of a perfectly specific semantically correct element for a

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
When using DIV, what translate that hierarchy? div id=level1 div id=level2 div id=level3I am down the hierarchy :(/div /div /div The indentation in the markup? Is whitespace required to make sense of DIVs? The IDs? If we need to use attributes to make sense of it, then it'd

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Bob, I am interested in the excellent and well thought out work you have done with lists here. Intriguing! Thanks However (and it's a serious question), in what way do you think that using lists is 'better' than using a simple 2 or 3 -celled table (+ a bit of CSS to style it,

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: DIVs are used for this, but do they *mean* this? If yes, then why does the following validate? div class=clearIt/div For the same reason that li class=foo/li also validates. You didn't quote an important part of my reply to Rimantas, who was saying: I

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Steve, Isn't the responsibility of screen reader manufacturers to treat DLs for what they are? Following this logic, we should be using basic table markup for layout to give people using old visual browsers a better experience. If we cheat with the markup to please user agents what's the

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Unless order is important, I'd vote for a Definition List too -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim MacKay Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] semantic

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Isn't the responsibility of screen reader manufacturers to treat DLs for what they are? Following this logic, we should be using basic table markup for layout to give people using old visual browsers a better experience. If we cheat with the markup

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Absolutely it is. I'm rather surprised at how badly they handle DLs, but almost zero percent of web developers use them even now (remember that standards-compliant designers represent perhaps 1% of the industry). Go back just a few years and no one at all was using them.   Is it not also the

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'm wondering if the pursuit of semantics might sometimes be taken to unreasonable extremes? Must everything that is contained in the marked-up document contain some semantic value? Must anything that does not have an inherent semantic value be excluded? Surely not. If an element is

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
The desire for semantic purity is only one of many factors when deciding how to mark up a page. Other factors include (but are not limited to) UA support, the user experience, the time available to implement the design and the expected life of the website. I would expect a professional

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: No, what I'm saying is that we should write semantic markup and hope that SR manufacturers fix their product asap. JAWS, to name one product, is a very expensive software. Freedomscientific should take care of its customers, it is not to the authors to lower

RE: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: You're saying that a wrapper is needed to enclose all other elements in a document to give it more meaning? No I'm not. Point out to me where I'm saying that. I said: Why would we need to group containers together if it is not for styling purpose? You answered

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Because like I said, following this logic why not using table markup to give users of other UAs (old visual browsers like IE 5 Mac, NN6, etc) a better experience too? Why just SR users? because thats a different issue. It's an issue of the user

RE: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Steve Green I have a big problem with the term 'best practice', especially when it is used to effectively terminate a discussion. It implies that not only is there currently no better solution, but that there never will be. I believe that the most appropriate solution

[WSG] From Definition Lists to Headings and Divs

2008-01-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Following the semantic list with explanations thread, I wrote a simple script that transforms DLs into headings and divs. The demo page: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/definition_list/from_definition_list_to_headin gs_and_divs.asp I welcome any comment that'd help me improve the solution.

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of dwain here's the link to the example: http://studiokdd.com/sandbox/abstract-christian-art-new-testament.html i have the jesus and disciples pic set to the long description and the text link to the larger pic. any feedback would be appreciated. Don't you think this

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of dwain excellent suggestion!! i have other plans for the page with the larger image as far as a description goes, but the link text suggestion is superb. i wanted a way to let screen readers know that there was a description of the image for non-sighted, blind, whatever is

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Thomas Thomassen Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling forms While I see your point, what I find to be troublesome is that Label and Input are inline elements. While it's easy to wrap the Inputs in Labels and make

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling forms TK fwiw, I think BRs are the perfect fit. BRs? Are BRs semantically correct? I believe they aren't. 9.3.2 Controlling line breaks [1] A line break

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com I don't think the break use has any bearing on the accessibility of the form's elements so that doesn't seem to have bearing on my decision. No negatives that I'm aware of. Semantically speaking, I think the introduction of a break is akin to adding a

RE: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com As a side note, I style these BRs with display:none. I'm curious, what effect does that have on the styled page?Do you do something like... label { display : block; } br { display : none; } Hi Mike, I don't use display:block, most of

RE: [WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie

2008-02-13 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Andrew WC Brown Here's an image to the problem http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5567/iefirefoxlistcb1.jpg Here's a link to the page http://dutchakscrap.com/about.html Hi Andrew, Try this: div.navigation a {zoom:1;} As a side note, I don't see a need for that DIV, you could

RE: [WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie

2008-02-14 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Dave Woods That'll work for IE6 but haslayout also exists in IE7 therefore either zoom or applying a width would be the best fix ;o) Hi Dave, The problem with width is that the rule already contains a padding declaration, so it'd require to serve a different value to IE5. On the

RE: [WSG] long words not wrapping inside DIV

2008-02-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:23 PM I have a dropdown menu with a width of 150px. while localization some texts are too long   and it is not wrapping inside the DIV and going outside the div. Is there any way to wrap long words. I don’t want to use

[WSG] data generator

2008-02-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
This is pretty cool tool to generate volume of any kind of data (it even includes SQL options) http://www.generatedata.com -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] data generator

2008-02-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of dwain target had something that just works and look what happened to them. wonder how they feel about accessibility now? although it's not the end all and be all of web design and development, if you are wanting standards compliance then shouldn't go just part of the way,

RE: [WSG] form problem

2008-02-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Jason Gray Michael Your current code is label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments rows=6 cols=40 /textarea It should be label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments rows=6 cols=40/textarea The value

RE: [WSG] re: generate data

2008-02-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi, I really enjoyed reading this thread, especially the responses from Georg and Breton, and thank you Dwain for asking the question. I have heard a lot about unobtrusive js but thus far it's more like a buzzword to me because I understand no JS. I wrote an article that gives the basic

RE: [WSG] Site review

2008-02-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
It looks good, but I'd agree with Tee, it needs some spacing. Interesting use of DLs, but I would not use display:none to hide the DT (shoot them off-screen). Also, I'd get rid of the DIV wrappers you have around these DLs. I think you could remove a few other DIVs from the markup. If the large

RE: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field

2008-02-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:37 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field I can't speak for screen readers since I've never used one my self... But would there be any reason you

RE: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field

2008-02-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Mike, What about using a fieldset with *legend* if the required fields can be grouped together. Because the legend (required fields) would be read aloud before each label. In some cases that's an excellent solution (what I've been using for a while) but unfortunately power users

RE: [WSG] multiple css style sheets

2008-02-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Kane Tapping Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:25 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] multiple css style sheets How do browsers determine the winner in a conflict... well, AFAIK, they take the first style that is most relevant to the element. That would be

RE: [WSG] IE8 news

2008-03-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Chris Knowles Subject: [WSG] IE8 news We've decided that IE8 will, by default, interpret web content in the most standards compliant way it can. This decision is a change from what we've posted previously.

RE: [WSG] IE8 news

2008-03-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Dodson The switch to IE7 mode is a good bonus to have but there are a few weird things such as the url in the address bar is always greyed out apart from the domain name which is a bit weird (and I can't quite understand why

[WSG] Links are not hot in ie8

2008-03-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I think it's going to be a fun ride... http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

RE: [WSG] Navigation menu problem

2008-03-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Arrowsmith Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:50 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Navigation menu problem  Hi All, Im having a problem getting a menu to look right in IE6, it can be found at

RE: [WSG] Navigation menu problem

2008-03-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ? Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Navigation menu problem /*/ #nav a {position:relative;} /**/ Thierry, will this be seen only by IE8?

RE: [WSG] WCAG 2 implementation site

2008-03-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:33 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] WCAG 2 implementation site I recall reading somewhere that 'accesskey' is often considered more

RE: [WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes

2008-03-12 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:12 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes Hi Kevin, What is the best title attribute wording to indicate a link is a jump link (page

[WSG] hCard microformat and phone numbers

2008-03-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I need to wrap phone numbers, what's the best way to go for this? [div class=phones] [span class=tel][span class=typeHome[/span] +1.415.555.1212[/span] [span class=tel][span class=typePager[/span] +1.415.555.1212[/span] [span class=tel][span class=typeOffice[/span] +1.415.555.1212[/span] [/div]

RE: [WSG] hCard microformat and phone numbers

2008-03-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[/span] On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to wrap phone numbers, what's the best way to go for this? [div class=phones] [span class=tel][span class=typeHome[/span] +1.415.555.1212[/span] [span class=tel][span class=typePager[/span] +1.415.555.1212

RE: [WSG] netscape 4 and css

2008-03-23 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Designer Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:07 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] netscape 4 and css dwain wrote: On 3/23/08, *Patrick H. Lauke* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Apply ALT tag to background image?

2008-03-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
You can only apply the alt attribute to img elements. 13.8 How to specify alternate text [1] The alt attribute must be specified for the IMG and AREA elements. It is optional for the INPUT and APPLET elements. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#h-13.8 -- Regards, Thierry |

RE: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists

2008-03-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Thomassen Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 5:44 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists I was working on some examples for the use of del and ins.

RE: [WSG] floats and ie7

2008-03-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dwain Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:49 PM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] floats and ie7 i thought i had fixed this problem. i guess i didn't. http://www.alforddesigngroup.com/ in ff, opera, safari 3.1 and

RE: [WSG] floats and ie7

2008-03-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
thanks thierry for your response. there was no width set on the nav div and that was the culprit. after my bout with the nn4 style sheet i guess i was brain dead. let me know when you will be in alabama Hi Dwain, It does not need a width, it needs hasLayout [1]. If it works with a

RE: [WSG] a target= blank not part of xhtml

2008-03-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Horowitz Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] a target= blank not part of xhtml I just read how a target=_blank is not part of xhtml Why not.

[WSG] [article] How-to fix the ABBR element in IE lt 7

2008-04-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/how-to_fix_the_ABBR_element.asp Thanks -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive

2008-04-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:31 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive Hi group, I have a really easy setting: h2

RE: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Taylor Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:32 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict It'll be a tough argument to make to a non-nerd. Your argument might be

RE: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict For example, I don't use the strict doctype because, its better, cooler

RE: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Lecoat Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:26 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials Hi, I need to mark up a list of client testimonials. At first I was

RE: [WSG] Full flash websites

2008-05-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:16 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Full flash websites The company I worl with has a big love for full

RE: [WSG] Reset the styles on a submit button with CSS

2008-05-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Workman Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:19 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Reset the styles on a submit button with CSS The style background:none is in reference to the background-image property, which is

RE: [WSG] Centered Horizontal List in IE7

2008-05-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IceKat Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:48 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Centered Horizontal List in IE7 Hey, Sent this out, wondering if anyone has any pointers??? Using a

RE: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting ::

2008-05-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Martin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting :: We use a very similar approach - php to deliver the css. This allows us

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kirton Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:00 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links Darren I'd be highly surprised if a screen reader manages to read CSS. Most struggle with HTML To

RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li

2008-05-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Lovelock Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li   I've kind of fixed it using divs now.   #container { display: table-row; padding: 0; margin: 0;

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
So, there were a number of sites that began using fieldsets and legends outside of forms. You may still find documentation talking about how nice it is to work with. Unfortunately, fieldsets and legends are only for forms and you shouldn't use them otherwise. I've actually been dealing with

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-22 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:26 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup -Original

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-23 Thread Thierry Koblentz
No, its not. In this case, if any single browser breaks a related script, then the mark-up cannot be used - working on the majority is not enough to make it viable. Does that mean we should drop the ABBR element because IE can't handle it properly? In what way is that the same as

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I think your misunderstanding lies earlier than my last post. If someone wishes to use an abbr tag in the way that it was intended by the spec, then that is perfectly acceptable, obviously. If their scripting then fails in IE they have three clear choices - write a more robust script,

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I am surprised that we are even discussing this topic here. This issue is mentioned in the last sentence of this blog post: http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/?p=5 Please follow the link provided in there to W3C site which mentions what h1 is there for. It's almost Friday, so here goes ;) I

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
For a few years now I've been marking up a clients company logo as a h1. I just wanted to get an idea of how many people actually do this compared to using a html image tag? I believe a h1 is more semantically correct however I'd be interested in seeing what other people on this list think.

RE: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF

2008-05-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skip Evans Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:41 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF Hey all, I have a table set up with a main content cell in

RE: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF

2008-05-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skip Evans Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:58 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF Hey, I see from reading up that innerHTML is not

RE: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF

2008-05-29 Thread Thierry Koblentz
And the node looks like this: div id=newsnode!!main_content!!/div Try this: var maincontent=document.getElementById('newsnode'); maincontent.firstChild.data=Hello World!; That is not changing the content of the div tag, or anything on the screen. It should. What happens when

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo But the Webpage (or the entire site for that matter) is not be about The

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:30 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo On 30 May 2008, at 15:50, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd say when it comes

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:24 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo But does two H1's in a row really agree with the spec? My understanding

[WSG] tools for IE

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Dev Toolbar type for IE: http://www.debugbar.com/ And a very interesting concept: http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

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