Re: [WSG] Strange character encoding issue

2008-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Your server send the data as:
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

but in your code says UTF-8.

The values in the http-header overwrites any values in the document.

== change the content type settig on your server 

or 

== use iso-8859-1 charset in your documents and only valid chars.


hope this helps.

Kind regards, Stefan




James Jeffery wrote:

  
Never had a problem with character encodings on web pages, but since I
reinstalled the OS on my iMac I have had an issue.
  
Some of my characters, especially when using ' seem to mess up. This is
the page, content and layout are simple as it's for a uni assignment: http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/overview.html
  
Check out the overview.html page, and notice the issues. There is one
noticeable in the overview page "‘SOAP’"
  
Any ideas?
  
(for those interested I do plan to publish a website regarding the
Semantic Web shortly).
  
  
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Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving anyone outside your business root access to your sever is NOT 
wise at all.


I was previously sharing a  dedicaed server with a friend that turned 
out to be one of the largest bot farmers in Australia, and subsequently 
led the server being dDOS'd.


Giving these people root access leaves any other client's on the server 
at their mercy, and if your other client's find out, they could have 
ground to sue you, especially if they're under the impression or your 
contracted to provide secure hosting.


Personally I would report them to the spam cops, 'cos to me, that's what 
they look like to be. I bet their software is just a set of spam bots, 
and could possibly be used to infect site visitor''s systems from any of 
the sites you host. And therefore give them more bots to use to send spam.



Graphics  Web Designing, LLC wrote:

I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel 
about this.

I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called 
expedia mail and I
Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can 
download their
Software onto my server for my clients email campaign.

I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access.

Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right?

According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that 
they have many
Companies give out there root access information to their servers.

I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server 
Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in 
Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information.


Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. 
But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting

My clients as well as my server.




Sherri 
Graphic’s  Web Designing, LLC

(941)876-4609  (941)889-8336 Cell
 


Have a great day.

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Re: [WSG] how come

2008-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
在 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:09 +0800,kevin mcmonagle  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:



hi,
How come you cant change the list-type from none to circle(or anything  
else) on li a:hover?

-kevin


try this

li { list-style-type:none; }
li a { display:list-item; list-style-type:circle; }
li a:hover { list-style-type:disc; }

ul
lia href=#a/a/li
lia href=#a/a/li
/ul




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Re: [WSG] how come

2008-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
在 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:09 +0800,kevin mcmonagle  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:



hi,
How come you cant change the list-type from none to circle(or anything  
else) on li a:hover?

-kevin



try this

li { list-style-type:none; }
li a { display:list-item; list-style-type:circle; }
li a:hover { list-style-type:disc; }

ul
lia href=#a/a/li
lia href=#a/a/li
/ul





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Re: [WSG] ARIA

2008-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would be really nice, that instead of introducing more and more 
design element features like ARIA markup, that what is and isn't 
supported at different levels (HTML4 or HTML5 or XHTML), that w3c and 
the browser vendor's worked together to properly come to agreement on 
what should be used rather then what they want to make as they're own 
spin off. I mean, look at what IE does to CSS, and then Opera uses the 
standards differently although much better. At least, as far as I can 
tell Mozilla are the only ones to get it completely right, but then even 
it has it's own quirks.


No, instead of developing new ways to write markup, they need to get 
into agreement (finally) of what the standards are truly going to be.


I for one am tired of writing up code for different browser's and having 
to hack code around to make things work.


What we need to be doing is pushing the vendor's into getting it right.



James Jeffery wrote:
Never really heard of ARIA until I came across it in a Web Development 
magazine (.net mag). I have just spent a few hours getting my head 
around it, and whilst I agree it looks useful for screen readers and 
such, isn't it less semantic?


Applying attributes that would currently make your markup invalid is 
something which I am not happy about. Along with that, using span to 
create a checkbox seems less semantic than using form elements.


Is ARIA markup only supposed to be used with browsers who have JS 
enabled or sites that use alot of JS for dynamic content? What about 
browsers that don't support ARIA markup?


I'm only dipping my feet in the water at the moment so I probably 
don't fully understand, but from what I have read so far it seems a 
bit wishy washy at the moment.


Any replies appreciated.

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[WSG] ie7 and firefox

2008-03-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCİ
i have a search form and

#formdiv{
 text-align:right;
 padding:3px;
 padding-right:4px;
}

#formdivtext{
border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
margin-right:2px;
}


my css file is this.
But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for my
claim!
what can i do to organize it?


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Re: [WSG] ie7 and firefox

2008-03-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCİ
ok, i tried it. thank you! it is suitable a bit. But not completely.
According to you which browser is better to try web site. i rarely look my
web site in ie. is firefox enough?



2008/3/25, Kyle Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Try resetting your page with an example such as:



 * {

 margin: 0px;

 padding: 0px;

 line-height: 1.25px;

 }



 etc.



 Also is your  browser in standards or quirks mode?



 You gave a brief description and no XHTML, this may help us more.



 Kyle



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 *Sent:* 25 March 2008 13:06
 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 *Subject:* [WSG] ie7 and firefox



 i have a search form and



 #formdiv{
  text-align:right;
  padding:3px;
  padding-right:4px;

 }



 #formdivtext{
 border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
 margin-right:2px;
 }





 my css file is this.

 But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for
 my claim!

 what can i do to organize it?


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Re: [WSG] ie7 and firefox

2008-03-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCİ
Maybe but i am is new coder :D

2008/3/25, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 or maybe your border attribute needs a diaper? ;-)

 #formdivtext{
 border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
 margin-right:2px;
 }


 Joe

 On Mar 25, 2008, at 13:22, Kyle Hudson wrote:

 Try resetting your page with an example such as:


 * {
 margin: 0px;
 padding: 0px;
 line-height: 1.25px;
 }


 etc.


 Also is your  browser in standards or quirks mode?


 You gave a brief description and no XHTML, this may help us more.


 Kyle


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 ] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCÝ
 *Sent:* 25 March 2008 13:06
 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 *Subject:* [WSG] ie7 and firefox


 i have a search form and


 #formdiv{
  text-align:right;
  padding:3px;
  padding-right:4px;
 }


 #formdivtext{
 border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
 margin-right:2px;
 }




 my css file is this.
 But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for
 my claim!
 what can i do to organize it?

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Re: [WSG] data generator

2008-02-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCİ
i think very good resource. thanks!

2008/2/23, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is pretty cool tool to generate volume of any kind of data (it even
 includes SQL options)
 http://www.generatedata.com

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[WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS

2008-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I haven't had a chance to look at it
but plan on tomorrow.

tg





- Original Message - 
From: Likely, James A. 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:38 AM 
Subject: RE: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS 


Hello, 

The problem is that you are using absolute positioning for the 
.gallerycontainer and on your browser I am sure that it looks fine but 
if the user or client has the resolution set lower then everything gets 
moved except for the content that is in .gallerycontainer. Try to resize 
your browser and see what happens. 

A suggestions is to try something like this 
http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/testing/test.html 

The other problem you were having is that you were positioning the 
larger image based on your browser size. 

Hope this helps. 

James 


-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:41 PM 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
Subject: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS 


Hello, 

I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to. I 
have 
IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things 
different 
with her IE. The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up 
all 
in a row but are not. I put the code I am using inside the page and in 
this email. 

Can someone take a look and let me know if they can see what is going on 
here. 

Thanks.tg 

Here is the link: 

http://www.rejuvenatespas.com/test.html 


*/// 
 
/// 

style type=text/css 

.gallerycontainer{ 
position: absolute; 
/*Add a height attribute and set to largest image's height to prevent 
overlaying*/ 
left: 430px; 
} 

.thumbnail img{ 
border: 1px solid white; 
margin: 0 5px 5px 0; 
} 

.thumbnail:hover{ 
background-color: transparent; 
} 

.thumbnail:hover img{ 
border: 1px solid gray; 
} 

.thumbnail span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/ 
position: absolute; 
background-color: lightyellow; 
padding: 5px; 
left: -1000px; 
border: 1px dashed black; 
visibility: hidden; 
color: black; 
text-decoration: none; 
} 

.thumbnail span img{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/ 
border-width: 0; 
padding: 2px; 
} 

.thumbnail:hover span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/ 
visibility: visible; 
bottom: 0; 
left: 300px; /*position where enlarged image should offset horizontally 
*/ 
z-index: 50; 
} 

/style 

*///  



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[WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS

2008-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Hello,
 
I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to.  I have
IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things different
with her IE.  The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up all
in a row but are not.  I put the code I am using inside the page and in
this email.
 
Can someone take a look and let me know if they can see what is going on
here.
 
Thanks.tg
 
Here is the link:
 
http://www.rejuvenatespas.com/test.html
 
 
*///
///
 
style type=text/css
 
.gallerycontainer{
position: absolute;
/*Add a height attribute and set to largest image's height to prevent
overlaying*/
left: 430px;
}
 
.thumbnail img{
border: 1px solid white;
margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
}
 
.thumbnail:hover{
background-color: transparent;
}
 
.thumbnail:hover img{
border: 1px solid gray;
}
 
.thumbnail span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
position: absolute;
background-color: lightyellow;
padding: 5px;
left: -1000px;
border: 1px dashed black;
visibility: hidden;
color: black;
text-decoration: none;
}
 
.thumbnail span img{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
border-width: 0;
padding: 2px;
}
 
.thumbnail:hover span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
visibility: visible;
bottom: 0;
left: 300px; /*position where enlarged image should offset horizontally */
z-index: 50;
}
 
/style
 
*///
///



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Re: [WSG] standards-compliant designers

2008-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's a great idea, I think i'll do that too.
it's really annoying that people disregard the fact that there are other
browsers out there, and make their site solely for ie6 and they don't even
think about validating it...
But your idea is good, to tell them about it will hopefully bring a change,
especially if it gets a following and more people do it.

On Jan 12, 2008 3:34 PM, Viable Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is blame to go around, for sure.

 I had an accessibility issue just this morning, while trying to find out
 about filing an insurance claim on my husband's car (which someone ran into
 in the middle of the night ... and took off). In Firefox, my browser of
 choice, the text on the page I needed was overlapping, and many of the links
 were not clickable. I switched to IE, and the page was totally fine;
 everything was in perfect working order.

 I couldn't help but check the source code, and of course, it was designed
 using tables. There were 187 errors, according to the W3C validation
 service. I e-mailed the company and received a quick reply that they had
 recently discovered an error that was preventing a small number of
 customers from accessing their claim information. Pretty generic, as
 expected.

 The company is customer-service based, according to its policies and my
 experience, so why would the powers that be within it not choose to make its
 Web site accessible to all? It's not like they don't have the money to make
 it happen. I propose that most people would choose not to inform them of the
 difficulties they have in the first place.

 It reminds me of the days (long ago!) when I was a waitress. Most of the
 customers who had a bad experience due to the food or the service (from
 other waitresses, of course!) wouldn't complain or explain; they'd merely
 pay their bills and leave, never to return, intent on informing everyone
 they knew about that awful restaurant.

 And then I think about how many times I personally have chosen to just let
 bad experiences go in fast-food restaurants, convenience stores, gas
 stations. The girl who jerked my money out of my hand with a scowl on her
 face and no thank-you. The guy who took five minutes to wait on me because
 he was too busy on his cell phone. I have gone to the manager sometimes, but
 most of the time, I just consider it too much hassle and let it go.

 The same is surely true of Internet experiences, I propose, at an
 exponentially greater rate of occurrence. The next page is just a click
 away. If it's a page that must be accessed, however, as in my insurance
 experience this morning, it's a different story, of course. But most of the
 time, I personally simply leave the site and make a note of what not to do.

 I'm self-taught. I sorted through HTML as a sort of grief therapy when I'd
 lost my baby (and almost gone with him) in 1999 and was out of work for
 months. I began learning about CSS more than three years ago and only
 learned about accessibility/Web standards within the last couple of years.
 But I'm diligently learning as much as I can (with three kids and a
 full-time teaching job that invariably comes home with me most days...).

 I'm going to make it my personal goal to begin contacting the people who
 make sites that aren't accessible to let them know in what way I had
 difficulty using their site. Not in a lofty, condescending way, but in a I
 thought you may want to know way. Maybe they won't care. Maybe they'll be
 offended. Maybe they won't get it at all. Maybe it won't do any good.

 But maybe it will.


 Jo Hawke
 http://www.viabledesign.com



 On Jan 9, 2008 8:59 PM, Matthew Barben  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I tend to agree with Mark. IT guys in my experience tend not to be
  'joiners' you work in a corporate IT department and you will quickly
  realise that people use terms like 'Crypt' and 'Beige'
 
  I have worked from both sides of the fence as both an indepentant but
  also
  as the main web guy within a large organisation. Yes there are
  situations
  where we have had to use external vendors to design websites purely
  because they have to resources to deliver quickly...and I can see how
  these agencies can produce very poor code and have the business owner
  say
  'yes'. But there are also organisations where they will impose a set of
  design guidelines upon these firms and really put the pressure on them
  to
  deliver (especially is industries where you are an essential service and
  need to deliver to a wide audience of both abled and disabled people).
 
  Does it make the firm a bunch of non-compliant designers...perhaps. But
  I
  say for every poorly design website, there is someone who says  'Yes
  that
  is what I want' or  'that'll do'.
 
   Steve Green wrote:
   Of course I made up that 1% figure but I don't suppose it's far out.
   Just
   look at the phenomenal number of crap websites out there. There are
   something like 100,000 people offering web design services

Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers

2008-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are some differences between the windows versions and the mac
versions, but if it works on windows, it is very likely it will work on mac
as well.
But aside from buying a mac, you can try to use an emulator or a virtual
machine and test the website from there.
You can also try to use this site (browsershots) http://browsershots.org/.

Good Luck!

On Jan 13, 2008 7:51 AM, Peter Mount [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 I'm tossing up whether to buy a Mac or to save my money and buy a new PC
 and just have Linux and Windows on it. I've read that Safari for Windows
 will help Web Developers without a Mac be able to develop for that.

 Is there a difference between Mac versions of browsers like Firefox and
 Safari or can I safely develop in non Mac versions and expect my web
 sites to behave the same on the Mac?

 Currently my main OS is Kubuntu but I'll soon be trialling Red Hat
 Desktop 5 Multi OS.

 Thanks

 --
 Peter Mount
 Web Development for Business
 Mobile: 0411 276602
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Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maybe you should try Foxit Reader 2.0 http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

PDF's won't be going away anytime soon, particularly from Government websites. 
There is also zero chance of having all PDF's done as HTML due to staffing and time constraints. The best you'll get is a link to an RTF/DOC and PDF version with some as HTML.

What really bugs me are the people who supply the content with large hi res pictures in the PDF and get annoyed when we send it back saying shrink it.
We manage to keep the majority of them under 3 MB (preferably 1MB or less) but that is a losing battle for some PDF's.

Brett. 



On Fri Jul 20 10:57 , 'Michael MD' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

 I'm all about "web conventions."  I didn't realize having a blank target

 didn't follow web standards.  Is that documented somewhere?





This one still bothers me ...



The alternatives I've seen invariably require _javascript_ and some of those 

_javascript_ methods give the user less choice and are also not well suited 

for user-generated content (often created with wysiwyg editors)



I'm seeing a very annoying trend lately where quite a few sites are forcing 

pdf's to open in a new browser window with _javascript_.

I do not think it is acceptable to force people to wait over a minute with a 

locked up browser for a slow plugin to start without warning!

- at least give them the option to right-click and download it for offline 

viewing!

(or better don't use pdf - use html! )



Government-related sites seem to be the worst offenders - They seem to have 

almost everything as pdf



Until they fix browsers to not lock up while loading slow plugins or they 

fix acrobat reader to start more quickly I'll continue to regard sites that 

force people to view pdfs in a browser as being about on about the same 

level as those nasty porn sites with endless chains of popup windows.









 









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RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
It depends the kind of layout you have.
The best and the easiest way to have the 300px in ur bg image itself,
eahtever clor you want.

regards
-P

www.puneetsakhuja.com/new




Original Message:
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From: Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:18:17 +0800
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Tiling image problem


Hello All -

I'm setting a 1px by 770px image to repeat vertically within a wrapper div.
Difference is that I need this repeat to START 300px from the top of the
wrapper.

So far, no luck. Here's the code:

#wrapper {
position: relative;
width: 770px;
margin: 0 auto;
text-align: left;
background:
url(/resources/5661/assets/images_medical/wrapper_tile.jpg) repeat-y 0
300px;
}

Reason I'm starting off at 300px from the top is because I need the top of
the wrapper to be transparent so the tiling body background can be seen
above and below the header, but the area behind the nav and content areas
NEED to be white.

So, is it possible to start a tile a certain distance from the top of a
containing div?

If so, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

If you'd like to see this live, look here: http://teratest.terapad.com

Thanks to all in advance!

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Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question

2007-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I believe what Jermayn is asking to keep the web standards intact, without
opening a new window, as accessibility doesnt allow us to open pages in new
window.

suggestions ?

regards
-P

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Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question


Hi,
You can use this code to open the pdf in a new window ...
   a link target=_blank href=pdf file name(eg:
OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.Nov.2006.pdf)click
here/a

Thanks

On 5/9/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi group,
 This may only relate to Western Australian people but someone else  may
 know...

 I have a page that has links to a pdf and the client wanted to know
 whether it can be linked to a new window or not. They dont really care
 about best practises etc but rather what the state Internet guidlines
 are. I have looked through the 107 page doco but cannot find anything.

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Re: [WSG] 50px right margin

2007-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks again. Just a couple of questions :

I am using this javascript scroll in my web site, but if I am trying to use
LightBox also to open the images, the script is clashing with the scroll
script.

And if I try to remove the scroll script, the LiteBox works fine...

you suggestions on this ?

Regards
-P

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Hi
   Your site looks great especially that scrolling when you click a link in
top menu 

Thanks


On 5/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks a lot nirmal. Much appreciated.
 However, my updated website URL is www.puneetsakhuja.com/new

 Have a look at it and will be waiting for your valuable inputs.

 Thanks again
 Puneet Sakhuja


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 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:43:47 +0530
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] 50px right margin


 Hi,

I have analysed your stylesheet and found that you have used margin in
 styles without specifying the width in that case there arises browser
 incompatibilities. You can use padding instead of margin and your bug is
 fixed

 Thanks

 On 5/10/07, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can anyone tell me what is causing this 50px right margin on #showcase
 in
  IE6?
  http://webdev.latrobe.edu.au/40years/gallery2.htm
 
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RE: [WSG] 100% height

2007-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Hope this will solve the problem:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/examples/csslayout1.html

regards
Puneet

Original Message:
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From: Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:10 +0200
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] 100% height


Here's my problem:

I need to have all the pages on a site fill the page at 100% of page  
height if lots of content or 100% of browser window iif short on  
content with the footer sitting nicely at the bottom in both cases in  
both IE 6 and IE7. Something I had no problems with until IE7 rolled  
out.

I have searched around the web and not found anything I would  
consider THE solution.

As I'm sure IE7 has done this to others, has anyone found a reliable  
solution?

Thanks,

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[WSG] help with page...

2006-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a question.  I am using Navstudio for menus and I am having a
problem with it overflowing and making me have a scroll at the bottom.  Can
anyone take a look and see what my problem might be.  I'll go ahead and say
it now, but it is not up to standards, it is still in the beginning.
 
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Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fake Google Toolbars Spreading Identity Theft

Beware of guests bearing Google Toolbars. That's because a
series of phishing probes are making the rounds that deliver
a faked version. Install the real-looking software, and your
credit cards and other personal information are captured,
then transmitted to a shadowy group of criminals. We've got
details on how the scam works, and what to look out for, in
our security alert.

Beware Fake Toolbars:
http://ct.eletters.whatsnewnow.com/rd/cts?d=181-544-1-278-911239-26861-0-0-0-1
On 10/6/05, Buddy Quaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  


Weird, i cant get to the site...i think it's blocking my ISP or
something. I tried ping and nothing, i could trace and ping from an
outside website but not from my machine.

Buddy

Drake, Ted C. wrote:

  
  

  

  
  
  
  Hi buddy
  The link got
mangled, try www.tdrake.net it's
the first post.
  Ted
  
  
  
  
  
  From:

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Behalf Of Buddy Quaid
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October 06, 2005
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  Subject: Re: [WSG]
Stop the
Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!
  
  
  Your website will not pull up
for me.
  
Buddy
  
Drake, Ted C. wrote: 
  I
didn't have room for all of them but I've added most of the sites
below.
  Ted
  
  
  
  
  
  From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of bit
  Sent: Thursday,
October 06, 2005
1:15 PM
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: Re: [WSG]
Stop the
Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugin!
  
  
  hi all,
  
maybe some suggestions for the ff-toolbar ... 
  
  http://www.sitepoint.com/
  http://digital-web.com/
  http://cssplay.co.uk/
  http://tanfa.co.uk/
  http://www.stylegala.com/
  http://kottke.org/
  http://www.wpdfd.com/
  
nice greetings from vienna
:)
  
  
  
  
  
  2005/10/6,
Drake, Ted C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi All
  
As many of you may have seen, I created a search plugin for Alistapart.com
that allows you to search their posts for information.
  
That was just the tip of the iceberg. I really wanted to create
something 
that would allow me to search all of my favorite coding resources
without
having to wade through outdated posts, spam, etc in a typical search.
  
Chris Pederick comes to the rescue today with a post about Rollyo, a 
personalized search engine portal.Well, today, I created a
standards-based
web portal and then made a cool plugin.
  
Go to my web site:
  http://www.tdrake.net/standards-based-web-development-resources-made-even-ea

sier/ to download the standardista plugin.
  
You can now search all of these sites from the comfort of your firefox
toolbar:
* alistapart.com
* w3.org
* simplebits.com
* meyerweb.com
* stuffandnonsense.co.uk
* shauninman.c...
* splintered.co.uk
* stopdesign.com
* andybudd.com 
* jasonsantamaria.com
* accessify.com
* clagnut.com
* 456bereastreet.com
* quirksmode.org
* tantek.com
* positioniseverything.net
* tdrake.net
* zeldman.com
* webstandards group
  
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working
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P.S.S. I can add 6 more web sites to the search query. Send me your
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Re: [WSG] Newbie Q: Menu standard/usability/accessibility question

2005-08-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Craig,

Looks really good!  

As far as valid W3C code only 15 issues
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Falgester.communitybillboard.info%2F
which is nothing compared to more than 200 at
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com

The biggest problem is easy!  

In your meta data change the end of the line from xhtml
...Algester, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia / 
to html
...Algester, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia 

The site seems very friendly to the user and is logical.

As far as more information on web standards, usability and
accessibility check out:

The Art and Science of Web Design 
by Jeff Veen (veen.com) 

This book is five years old but still one of the very best.  You can
buy it online for $40 USD or download it here free:
http://veen.com/artsci/veen-artsci.pdf

also
http://www.useit.com/
http://trace.wisc.edu/
http://www.w3c.org
http://www.ittatc.org/
http://www.stanford.edu/services/techtraining/techbriefings/web_standards/
http://www.webstandards.org/
http://www.webstandardsawards.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/

Good luck,
Brian




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 Guys, 
 
   
 
 I am a web development student at a TAFE college in Brisbane, Australia.
 Very new to web standards and usability and accessibility. 
 
   
 
 If you have time, could you tell me how the menus at
 http://Algester.CommunityBillboard.info stack up in regards
 of usability. 
 
   
 
 Many thanks for your time 
 
   
 
 Craig Rippon 
 
 Brisbane, Australia 
 
   


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RE: [WSG] inline-block support?

2005-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This doesn't quite answer your question - but if you want to test on a MAC
and don't have one I found a resource yesterday...

http://danvine.com/icapture/

It's not as good as the others I suppose but it is free.

Heather

Original Message:
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:42:01 +0200
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] inline-block support?


I was sure that there was some major browser not implementing 
display:inline-block, but in a quick test firefox 1.03, Opera 7 8 and 
even IE 6 are interpreting it correctly.I have yet to test on a mac, but 
that would seem to cover a lot of users.  Anything I'm missing? Any 
recent documentation on browser support?

thanks

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[WSG] (No subject header)

2005-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IE Compliant --- Why would u advertise that!?!?!
Weird



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Re: IE Compliant (was RE: [WSG] (No subject header))

2005-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My bad, it was early this morning, i was a little hung
over!!
It was in relation to the deepbrowser that some one posted
about, they wanted to know if it was just a wrapper for IE.
The website advertises the fact that there browser is IE
compliant.
I was under the impression that IE compliance meant that it
was as buggy and bad at rendering HTML.
The fact that the subject line was missing is pure user
error. For that i can only apologise.



  Shaun Johnson
 
  IE Compliant --- Why would u advertise that!?!?!
  Weird
 
 Aeh...so, what's this in relation to? A proper subject
 line, or maybe even a bit of context, would help...
 
 Without any further information, assuming this is a thread
 starter rather than a reply to some previous conversation,
 I'd say: you advertise it (for a certain CSS technique or
 whatever) to signify that it will actually work in the
 dominant, most commonly used browser, and it's not
 something that only the enlightened elite will be able to
 use/appreciate...?
 
 Patrick
 
 Patrick H. Lauke
 Webmaster / University of Salford
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Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History

2005-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
congrats, very nice design :)
2 errors in home page
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html
cheers
Daniel
http://www.gizax.it
Hope Stewart wrote:
I've been working on a huge site for over a year and it still has a long way
to go. Unfortunately, I had not heard about Web Standards until well after
starting this site, but it's never too late!
The latest section I'm about to add to the site is totally CSS and not a
table in sight, except for tabular data. And after several days of trying, I
finally got Suckerfish drop down menus to work. (Drop down menus are a
non-negotiable requirement of the client, as is the huge sponsor's logo at
the top of each page.)
It is very important that this site be accessible and last well into the
future -- unlike a commercial site, it is unlikely to get a major re-design
every few years. So, I'd be very interested hear your comments. The design
is very basic, but I've never claimed to be a graphic designer!
The new draft section (on the World Under 23 Rowing Championships) can be
found at:
http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html
Compare this to my original bandwidth-hungry, table-orientated layout:
http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/olympic-games/index.html
I have been unable to test the new pages in Opera/win and IE5/win, so would
be grateful if someone could have a look for me, particularly in regards to
the drop-downs.
The drop-downs do not work in IE5.2/mac, but each of the first level links
will go to a page containing all the links in the drop-downs. So,
accessibility is not reliant on the drop-downs.
Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Drop Down Menu Hack for IE

2005-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think that is the same problem of hybrid dropdown CSS
you can fix it with javascript function
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/
cheers
Daniel
http://www.gizax.it

Joshua Leung wrote:
Hi all,
i am working on a drop down menu and can get it working fine in Firefox 1.0
but not in Internet Explorer. 

I followed the example seen on alistapart here: 
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/

I cannot seem to isolate the IE Hack to just work on my menu DIV, and not
work on the 
whole page.

I have put in a sample list in the content DIV of my page, to show the
problem.
In Firefox, the LI and UL tags are not affected in the content DIV, but
in IE, they are. 

What can i do to fix this? 

Site: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/index.html
CSS: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/styles/global.css
Javascript: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/menu.js
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
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Re: [WSG] newspaper format

2005-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob,

Looks good on Mac (OSX 10.3.8 15 inch G4 PowerBook Firefox / Safari)
and PC (XP Firefox / IE).  3 col xhtml  is tricky, I know!

In case you are interested in an actual 3 column newspaper website in
xhtml check out the San Francisco Examiner at
http://www.sfexaminer.com/ .

Good Luck,
Brian

On 4/14/05, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys and gals,
 
 I have been trying to present the information relating to a novel in a more
 interesting style than 'just text' or indeed three columns, and have
 experimented with a sort of newspaper style. The newspaper is a fictitious
 one which is mentioned often in the novel, and my effort can be seen
 (in isolation from the rest of the site) at:
 
 http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/bren/newspaper/news.html
 
 The original design I produced and am modifying can be seen at
 www.novelnovella.com .
 
 I have used floats (of course!) and the 'layout is supposed to work like:
 
 banner
 header
 leftcol   rightcol
 banner
 leftcol rightcol
 etc
 
 I would be most grateful for any general feedback : does it work as a
 design? Does it work (esp on MAC) as it's supposed to?  Is there anything
 glaringly bad about it? You get the idea. It works for me in FF1.0, IE6,
 IE5.5, Opera 7, all on PC.
 
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Re: [WSG] New member introduction

2005-04-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Tee,
and welcome to WSG.
Nice website ;))
cheers,
Daniel
http://www.gizax.it
tee wrote:
Hi I'd just joined this group, thought it's polite to introduce myself.
My name is tee. I am new  to web design and interested in web standards/
accessibility. I am very happy to find WSG from google seach just an hour
ago.
And I happened  to launch my site yesterday :)
Regards,
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Re: [WSG] why, why, why, --firefox glich--

2005-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You could try a div before the welcome1.gif and close it after back
to top of page.  this may work.


On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:29:50 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --this list is my only hope---
 
 I've been rebuilding the html of this page over and over and cant find why
 the container div dosnt resize{height} to accomodate all the content in
 firefox.
 Below is a link to the css and page.
 
 http://mcmonagle.biz/TESTSITE/
 
 please help if you have time
 
 thanks a million
 
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Re: [WSG] Floated right div gets pushed below the left

2005-03-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I took a look adn i cant see a problem with the rendering,
im no web-genius though, so dont take that as gospel!!

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Subject: [WSG] Floated right div gets pushed below the left
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:04:18 +0100

 Hi Folks:
 
 I understand what is happening here, but I'm not really
 sure how to go  about resolving this.  What's happening is
 that a floated right div is  being pushed down below the
 left when the the browser window is at  800px wide or
 less.
 
 It works in all the other browsers - it's only IE 6 that
 has the  problem...see the browsercam results (just ignore
 the windows xp  images):
 
 http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=150535
 
 The site is http://www.madeinlandscape.com/...it
 validates...and there  is alot of javascript in here
 including Ajax.
 
 This is the the css link
 http://www.madeinlandscape.com/css/style.css
 
 Any advice on an alternative method for pulling this off? 
 Note, that  the horizontal blue stripe in the upper right
 is supposed to adjust to  the the size of the window (with
 a 503px margin at the left).
 
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Re: [WSG] you've been framed!

2005-03-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does that work in IE. Im thinking of implementing it in my
blog, atm im jus using a blogger template. see:
http://nogg3r5.blogspot.com
Shaun Johnson
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Subject: Re: [WSG] you've been framed!
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:31:03 +0100

  As far as I'm concerned, when you have a great long
  scrolling list (for example) and you want (need) to keep
  the nav stuff stationary, frames represent the ONLY way
 to do it.
 
 The ONLY? What about:
 
 div style='width:300px;height:300px;overflow:auto;'
 !-- put your stuff in here --
 /div
 
 That seems to work pretty well too.
 
 Iframes are perfecty fine in some situations, but don't
 forget about  the above...it works quite well too...
 
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Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2

2005-03-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Surely the world saw this coming. I dont think microsoft
will ever be able to support n e thing ever. Half of me
wonders if they even have the talent to create a browser
that works. the other half knows they can, but realises they
wont!
Shaun Johnson


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 http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/
 
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Re: [WSG] acronym and abbr and worms

2005-03-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Pedantry is like chocolate. There's no such thing as
 enough. :)
lol pix, thats so true!



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Re: [WSG] Gnews - THREAD CLOSED

2005-03-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't understand your answer. I think that is
a check for a new product that respects all w3c
technology.
What is strange? I don't know sincerely.
regards
Daniel
http://www.gizax.it
Mark Stanton wrote:
Guys I really can't see how this dicussion relates to web standards.
This is an ad for a product. Sure the output validates and there are
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Re: [WSG] Site Check and Mac Issues

2005-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patrick,

Looks good in Mac OSX running IE, Safari and Firefox 


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:13:35 -0500, Patrick Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Good morning everyone. I've been working on a redesign of my personal site
 for a few weeks now and I'm almost at a finalized point in the layout,
 however I'm running into a few issues, most of which are on Mac browsers.
 The pages are both XHTML 1.0 Transitional and CSS valid, though I haven't
 checked 508 and WAI compliancy yet. 
   
 http://test.patrickhaney.com/home.php 
 http://test.patrickhaney.com/content.php 
   
 I see no issues with the following Windows browsers: 
   
 Firefox 1.0 
 IE 6 SP2 
 Opera 7.54 
 Netscape 7.2 
   
 On the Mac side, however, the following browsers seem to have an issue with
 cutting off the icon associated with my inline ul navigation and similar
 span items: 
   
 Mozilla 1.7.5 
 Netscape 7.2 
 Safari 1.2 
 Firefox 1.0 
   
 I assume it has something to do with the line-height property or the size of
 the box that contains these items (check the light bulb icon with text at
 the top and the inline navigation ul). Otherwise these browsers display
 just as intended. 
   
 Not as nice are the other browsers, which seem to have a major problem with
 floats. 
   
 Netscape 6 Mac/Win 
 IE 5.2 Mac 
   
 Without really delving into the code, does anyone have ideas as to what the
 icon cutoff issue and the major float problems are and how I go about
 tracking down a fix? 
   
 Thanks, 
   
 Patrick 
  
  
 Patrick Haney 
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Re: [WSG] IE: why are you so...

2005-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
good work ;))
ps = ciao piero sono gizax ^_^
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone!
  As my first post I'd like to ask you something technical.
I've got a simple div element with an unordered list inside (as you can
see at www.re1.it/pierofix/justlinkit : the big gray square with all links).
The div's width is set in percentage and his padding is set in px: ok, it
works!
In the previous version also the padding was set in percentage, but this
solution makes the page a Guernica (by Picasso), with IE, OBVIOUSLY. The
problem is that when I pass the mouse over one of the link in the list,
the link shifts left and top (with 300 links, it seams to be in a disco!).
Have you ever seen this mess before? How did you solve it? I've set the
padding in px but I'm not satisfied.
Thanks to all,
Piero.
P.S. Sorry for my english.
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Re: [WSG] Search Engines/Spiders and SSIs

2005-01-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tom,

On search engines like Google there will be an adverse effect on
optimization when using coldfusion.  Remember Google is a
Hypertextual Web Search Engine

http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

so .html files are going to be most easily crawled.  A major problem
is flash, since most engines can not read flash files.  Meaning, to
Google your entire company portfolio looks like:  To view the Media
Logic Web site, you must have the Macromedia Flash 7 (or higher)
plug-in installed, and JavaScript enabled.







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Re: [WSG] I really need MAC people to check out my CSS Zen Garden submission ... Please and Thank You!

2005-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
maini,

looks great and is valid xhtml 1.0 strict.


On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:40:22 +0100, Roger Johansson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 2 jan 2005, at 18.26, Mani Sheriar wrote:
 
  If anyone on a Mac cares to check this out for me and just report any
  issues (or, hopefully, the lack of issues) and on what browser you
  looked I would GREATLY appreciate it.
 
 No apparent problems in Safari.
 
 IE 5/Mac, though, has a few hundred pixels of empty space after the
 bottom image, causing unnecessary vertical scrolling. A quick guess is
 that it has something to do with the 1200 px negative margin you've
 specified for #container, and the rules for #extraDiv1 and #extraDiv2.
 The negative bottom margin on #extraDiv2 is probably what's causing it
 - the extra space is looks like it is 600 pixels tall.
 
 Not that I'd worry too much about IE 5/Mac.
 
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Re: [WSG] links with same names

2004-11-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
you could also use a text image such as gif or jpg with an alt like:
alt = Link :: LINK NAME HERE

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RE: [WSG] IE weird display problem

2004-09-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,

I tried your code. What worked for me is giving the right div a
float:right; It worked for both IE6 and FF.

- regnard



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From: MirAGe01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:11:28 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] IE  weird display problem


I'm working on a page that will consist of 2 columns that will sit inside a
wrapper div container. I set the left column to float left with a width of
400px. The right column is set with a margin-left of 400px and a width of

200px. The width of the wrapper container is 600px. The right column is
getting pushed down in IE6+. If I remove the px from the width of the right
column so the style reads simply width:200; then the right column lines up
correctly with the left column. I've never heard of this before and it makes
no sense to me. You can see my code below with the problem in bold.
 
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleUntitled Document/title
style type=text/css media=screen
body {
 padding:0;
 margin:0;
}
#wrapper {
 width:600px;
 margin:10px auto;
}
#left {
 float:left;
 width:400px;
}
#right {
 width:200; /* if I put a unit here such as px then the column doesn't
line up */
 margin-left:400px;
}
/style
/head
 
body
div id=wrapper
 div id=left
  left side text
 /div
 div id=right
  right side text
 /div
/div
/body
/html
 
Thanks for you help.

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Re: [WSG] Slicing With Photoshop

2004-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Second, I want to know what the default layout settings, the width is.
I sometimes try 800*600 but I hate it because it is too small and
wanted to know what the default if for people with 1024*768 or
whatever it is...

I'm assuming you are asking what the best default monitor resolution you
are going to lay-out your webpage for. If you look at rought stats:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp 

It shows that aroung 1/3 of browsers have are using 800x600. And roughly
4/5 have either 1024x768 or 800x600.

If you want a lay-out that looks ok with almost everybody, try making an
800x600 layout that can adapt to 1024x768.

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RE: [WSG] background image on a horizontal list.

2004-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Lennart,

From your CSS, you could apply the width:100px to the #navlist li ID and
use float:left instead of display:inline.

Hope this helps.


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From: Lennart Fylling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:56:37 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] background image on a horizontal list.


Hello there!!
I've been a member here for some time, and now I will see if I as well can
get some help from you :)

First of all, I'm a beginner so don't shoot me!!

The problem:
On my webpage, I've created an unordered horizontal list for my main
navigation, where I use some homemade buttons as background (link,
visited,hover  active).
I've made those buttons 100px wide, but in the browsers I've tested them out
the hole background image is not visual .

It's a horizontal list, so I have used :{ display: inline; width: 100px;} in
the css, but the {with: 100px;}
declaration, doesn't seem to have any effect at all.
When I use {display:block; width: 100px; } it does'nt seem to be a problem
(other then the list transform in to a vertical list).

Here is the layout:
http://lennart-fylling.com
Here you can see how the buttons really look's like:
http://lennart-fylling.com/utkast2.php

I hope here are some experts in this area, who can make may day much better.

I hope you understand both my problem and my school english :)

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RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion

2004-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I’d also like to add a question.

How Accessible is this method? Can screen readers pick this up and convert
it to the correct text?

GC


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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 05:04:24 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion


Mike you are a gem! This tool generates codes that validates in XHTML 1.0
DTD Strict! Is helpful and great for lazy people like me lol. Tested it and
it works great.

Thank you thank you very much!

By the way what is the differences between ISO and Hex Conversion? Which is
more secure? I choose the default which is ISO Conversion.

Best Wishes, 
Jaime ...




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Subject: RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion

Jaime,

Just use http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/obfuscate_email.asp.

Might prove useful and does it all for you, including complete mail-to
strings.

Mike Pepper
Accessible Web Developer (with a headache because he's been on the system
way too long)
http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com

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Sent: 03 June 2004 19:35
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion


Ermm another question List fellows. Hope you guys don't mind...4th question
for the past 2 weeks.

I am trying to use Character Entity Evasion for mailto encoding instead of
JavaScript. At times it validates and at times it doesn't. Why? I have no
idea.

Example of Character Entity encoded email:

Decode: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Encode:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com

Those characters is making my xhtml 1.0 strict validation unhappy.

May I know what alternatives do the rest of you use besides using JavaScript
for encoding your e-mail? Contact Forms and '@ image method' or replacing
'@' with 'at' method aside please.


Thank you!


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RE: [WSG] Standards compliant content management system.

2004-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in the same situation only one step further forward. I'm considering
either using the XHTML compliant Editor that is available although it looks
a little unpredictable or changing my Content management system to allow
the user to build up pages from components.

Ie: they will select a component from a list to add to the page Paragraph,
Ordered List, Quote etc. then Ill develop a css for each of these
components. It limits the users ability to edit pages in the fullest terms
but that could be a benefit rather than a weakness.

What are others doing?

GC


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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:22:40 +1000
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Subject: [WSG] Standards compliant content management system.

snip
What is the point of going to all the effort of making the web site
standards 
compliant when the end user is just going to butcher the content inside it.
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[WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I would like to do is, limit the browsers that see the fully styled
version of my site to the ones I know work correctly others will get the
un-styled version.

I am aware I can do this in JavaScript, is there a way to do so in CSS?

Logically I want to say:

If (ie4,5,5.5,6+, NN6, 7+ , Opera7+, Mozilla 0+ etc ){ use this style sheet
}
Elseif (NN4.7) {use this style sheet} 
Else { don’t use style sheet}

Thanks
CSS and Web Standards is a challenge by I am improving!
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Re: [WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?

2004-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Ryan,

I was not aware of the @import and that it’s invisible to NN4

Are there any other browsers its invisible to? Anyone?

I am including all browsers across all platforms, I intend to create 2
style sheets, one fully styled and one semi then there is Stuff like Lynx
and screen readers that should not have the style sheet at all. It’s just a
coincidence I didn’t include them in my email.

I would rather use a server side script to include a specific sheet against
Brower/agent than javaScript. I was just wondering if there was a CSS
method for doing this.

Thanks for your help


Original Message:
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From: Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:34:07 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?




What I would like to do is, limit the browsers that see the fully styled
version of my site to the ones I know work correctly others will get the
un-styled version.

I am aware I can do this in JavaScript, is there a way to do so in CSS?

Logically I want to say:

If (ie4,5,5.5,6+, NN6, 7+ , Opera7+, Mozilla 0+ etc ){ use this style sheet
}
Elseif (NN4.7) {use this style sheet} 
Else { don’t use style sheet}

  

It appears to me that you have pretty much every modern browser we deal 
with day-to-day in your allowance section there.
I wouldn't recommend the use of JavaScript for browser-sniffing. This is 
a practice best left back in the dark ages of web design with Netscrape 
and IE proprietry page methods.

Since in NN4 you will (presumably? yoiu didn't specify) be using the 
same HTML as you would for the others, you'll only want to feed NN4 what 
it can understand and hide the rest from it. There is a technique that 
works very well.

Make 2 stylesheets - name one basic, and name the other modern.
Style commands that NN4 can understand/handle without 
crashing/misbehaving go in the basic CSS file.
All other styles are placed into modern.

at the top of basic, import modern -- @import url(modern.css);

NN4 is unable to use the @import function, and so it will not see the 
style information you have placed into modern.
In your HTML heads, use link rel=stylesheet type=text/css 
media=screen href=basic.css /

There is not really an option to say Else, don't use the 
stylesheets... NN4 CSS support is extremely rudimentary. Generally, I 
wouldn't worry about dealing with any other browsers. However, I notice 
that you haven't included on your list IE5.2 Mac or Safari, etc. and 
that all those listed are on the Windows platform. If you are thinking 
of blocking out the styling of your pages on these other-platformed 
browsers, I would discourage it. You should be able to offer some level 
of styling to Mac as well as Linux with little trouble. Browsers on 
these platforms (minus IE5.x OS8/9/X) aren't too troublesome to cater to.

On a side note, another post up, developing in IE6 or FF
http://shadyland.theward.net/archives/2004/05/development_ie6_1.php

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RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

2004-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I take it from your website you are in Sydney?

Thought you might like to know how legislation works in the UK. 

If someone has a problem they normally try to deal with it through the UK
court system and therefore UK law. If they don’t get an answer or the
answer they didn’t want they will then try to take action through the
European court system and EU law.

In the UK you here a lot of, “taken to the European Court” after a case is
lost or inconclusive in the local legal system.


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From: Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:05:53 +1000
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessibility related


Looks like I've answered my own question. Here we go
http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/Overview.html

 Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2004 2:35 PM
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Subject: [WSG] Accessibility related

Howdy People,

Lame as it may sound but other than the UK which other countries in Europe
are complying to the Accessibility criterion? Any takers?

... and Russ,
Just like we have your wonderful work on Web
Standards(http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/benefits/) How about
creating one on Accessibility? Or if members of the WSG mailing list wish to
do one?? 

Just bouncing off me ideas.

Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com




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RE: [WSG]

2004-05-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have a look at this its the same case Taco, but the discussion widens on
the two laws that currently cover this area, ( to my knowledge ). 

http://www.etsi.org/cce/proceedings/5_1.htm

I would guess that you are familial with the European Human Rights Bill and
the Accessibility laws instituted in the last few years in Europe I would
guess that anything here would be based on something similar.

As a risk management issue I am sticking to what I know from Europe, hoping
that this will be harder than any regulation here.

GC


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From: Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:51:08 +1000
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Subject: [WSG] 



Are there currently any laws in Australia that dictate a website should be
accessible to vision impaired people etc.?
If so, to what websites does it apply and has anyone taken any websites to
court over not being accessible?
What I could find so far only the following:
- http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/SportsBriefs904.htm

Are there any links to what standards certain websites need to apply?

I believe this has been asked before however a quick scan though my mailbox
did not return anything.

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RE: [WSG]

2004-05-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe Kay and Lea are both right.

I would consider it to be like many other situations. They look for the
“Controlling Mind”.

i.e. the person in charge. If building a house it’s the house owner and the
Builder (these can be companies, where the director or secretary would be
responsible) not a laborer unless it’s plainly reckless. In our industry it
will be where the Copy right or Intellectual Property is held.

That said knowingly breaking the law, is wrong and contract or no contract,
courts can hold you accountable.

My 2p, one day this will have to be euro cents! My God!

GC


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From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:40:32 +0800
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Subject: RE: [WSG]


 And to sum up the relevance : all websites created, owned or hosted in
 Australia must comply to the DDA. You, as the 
 creator/developer/designer,
 bear as much responsibility as your client. So, you can be 
 held just as
 liable by the courts as the site owner - your biggest problem will be
 convincing your clients to give a damn...
 
 
 Thats an interesting one, would I even be liable if I pointed 
 out all these issues?

Surely that would depend on your contract with the client - I'm pretty sure
ours has all sorts of wriggly little disclaimers to guard against that kind
of thing.

K.

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[WSG] [OT] I want to keep the entered data in NN:form after history.go(-1)

2004-05-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] I want to keep the entered data in NN:form after history.go(-1) 

I am racking my brains over the simplest thing, its not web standards as in
CSS but its about browser compatibility.

Using Netscape if I fill in the form submit it and get to an error page
then click back or a link with history.back() or history.go(-1) the data I
entered in the form is not maintained. Google manage to maintain it. I seem
to remember a fix for this, but can’t locate it now.

Anyone have any thoughts.

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[WSG] Issues with min-height?

2004-02-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello, I'm Sarah, and I just joined WSG a few days ago :)

I'm just learning CSS and I'm have a bit of trouble with min-height and
tableless layouts. I want the content and the sidebar to stretch down all
the way to the bottom of the screen. It kind of looks odd when the
content/sidebar's background color just stops in the middle of the screen.

I was trying to fiddle around with the following min-height hacks but
maybe I'm just way over my head here. Any suggestions?

Min-height hack: http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-minheight-hack.html
ALA article: http://alistapart.com/articles/footers/

URL: http://bonniepink.justagirl.org/
CSS: http://bonniepink.justagirl.org/bp.css

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