Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

On 25/01/2011 12:34 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: One word : semantics. Assuming authors use the element in the same way, and assuming the element has only one semantic meaning possible. -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Project Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State Library of Victoria

Re: [WSG] Mobile urls

the device and hacking support into device * using images * using legacy encodings * using pseudo-Unicode solutions (essentially an 8-bit legacy glyph based encoding superimposed over a Unicode block). Sometimes I feel I'm back in the 90s. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Project Manager, Research

Re: [WSG] Mobile urls

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Re: [WSG] A question about RTL

is to use markup correctly, and use bidi control characters as needed. Embedding LTR only text in a RTL block is likely to cause grief, as does RTL text in a LTR block -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia andr...@vicnet.net.au

Re: [WSG] Korean fonts

, UnBatang, 백묵 바탕, Baekmuk Batang, serif; Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Project Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Ph: +61-3-8664-7430 Fax: +61-3-9639-2175 Email: andr...@vicnet.net.au Alt email: lang.supp...@gmail.com

Re: [WSG] Korean fonts

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RE: [WSG] HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives

alternatives. Some of the discussions in the ICT4D area and in other avenues is the need for support or oral rather than literate models for the web. -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia andr...@vicnet.net.au

Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

On 28/02/2010 12:36 AM, Henrik Madsen wrote: 80s Kevin? Mid 90s at the latest. don't you mean mid-90s at the earliest? -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Project Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Ph: +61-3-8664-7430 Fax

Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages

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Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

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Re: [WSG] utf8 character display problem

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Re: [WSG] website fonts

can not set or specify a default font through the browsers user interface. The best you can do is write a stylesheet to override a sites CSS rules. But not all users are able to write their own stylesheets. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State

Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

attributes can only contain a single language meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Ph: +61-3-8664-7430 Fax: +61-3-9639-2175 Email: andr

Re: [WSG] Where is browser compatibility in wcag?

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Re: [WSG] Testing in IE7 both Win XP and Vista

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Re: [WSG] Downloading Fonts

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Re: [WSG] [at]font-face confusion

. Other approaches from that period were server based solutions such as GlyphGate. -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http

[WSG] font-size-adjust and related headaches

. Is anyone aware of PHP code or other mechanisms for doing operating system detection, or could offer a more standards compliant alternative? Wracking my brains here and seem to keep coming up against limitations. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Vicnet Research and Development Coordinator State

RE: [WSG] HTML special characters coding

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Re: [WSG] HTML special characters coding

150; and 151; would be technically undefined. -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] HTML special characters coding

Use amp; nbsp; lt; and gt; All other characters should be actual characters. Use a character encoding that contains all the characters you require. Use of NCRs and other entities should be rare occurances for language challenged environments. Andrew kevin_erickson wrote: Hello, I am

Re: [WSG] HTML special characters coding

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Beyond the inbuilt entities I tend to just use the characters directly in the markup and specify UTF-8 encoding. Has been working reasonably well in all modern browsers. LOL, i enjoyed the wording. Considering the document character set of HTML4 is Unicode, if it

Re: [WSG] HTML special characters coding

Matthew Holloway wrote: Andrew Cunningham wrote: LOL, i enjoyed the wording. Considering the document character set of HTML4 is Unicode, if it can't be displayed in UTF-8 in a browser, then it can't be displayed using entitiies or NCRs either ;) Generally I agree, although one good

RE: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

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RE: [WSG] PDF Accessibility

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Re: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

. Graceful degradation. Users with newer browsers will get a better experience, but it'll still work with the older browsers. -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Disabling Fonts in Font Stacks

easier, leave font-families out of your default sheet(s), and create an alternate stylesheet with nothing but each family you wish to test with, selectable from every good browser's menu system. They very well can all be left that way when the site goes public. -- Andrew Cunningham Research

Re: [WSG] multilingual website advice

Users: Practical Tips rather enlightening. The audio and slides are available from http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2007/europe/schedule/ Cheers, -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator (Vicnet) State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia Email

Re: [WSG] multilingual website advice

One other thing I forgot to emotion, if you are supporting East or West African languages, or Vietnamese then Unicode normalisation support will be critical. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator (Vicnet) State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC

Re: [WSG] multilingual website advice

would be great. (I should point out the obvious one, we will be engaging native speakers and expert editors - not simply relying on babelfish ;-) Thanks in advance. -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator (Vicnet) State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000

Re: [WSG] Padding Hebrew in CGI POST

are actually looking for a space after the Hebrew word. Out of curiosity, if you insert a space at the beginning of an English field is the space preserved? Also out of curiosity, is the space at the beginning of a Hebrew value necessary? Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator

Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

relation to access and equity policies and its implications for developing content on government websites aimed at CALD communities. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator (Vicnet) State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia Email: andrewc+AEA

Re: [WSG] lack of 'lang' attribute fails WAI

On Sun, September 9, 2007 3:33 pm, Tee G. Peng wrote: On Sep 8, 2007, at 2:40 AM, Andrew Cunningham wrote: Hi Andrew, I am curious, is there guideline from WCAG that state there should only be one language for the title? Hi Tee, since Patrick has answered it, I'll jump to your last

Re: [WSG] lack of 'lang' attribute fails WAI

directionality left-to-right or right-to-left, the directionality of the page would be reflected in the primary language. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Does the HTML working group have to take into account accessibility guidelines?

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Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

is unsupportable. At least for user's reading the Latin, Cyrillic and Greek scripts. For other scripts preferred fonts sizes may be either 14pt or 16pt depending on the script. Although font metrics can also impact on required font sizes. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

Bengali 16px Uzbek,Vietnamese 13px Simplified Chinese 13px Persian 15px/19px Arabic 16px/19px -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet, Public Libraries and Communications State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

sheet designed using this supposition would be inappropriate for a fully internationalised site. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet, Public Libraries and Communications State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia andrewc+AEA

Re: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

Paul Novitski wrote: At 5/27/2007 07:44 PM, Andrew Cunningham wrote: The practice of setting body font size to 62.5% has some very interesting assumptions built in. Any style sheet designed using this supposition would be inappropriate for a fully internationalised site. Please elaborate

Re: [WSG] Semantics and small

Jixor - Stephen I wrote: To me small would imply of less importance, like a side note. if you just want text to be smaller for design purposes it shouldn't be in a small would that imply big is more important? -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet, Public

Re: [WSG] Semantics and small

trouble with people assuming emphasised text is always visually rendered in an italic typeface, and that strongly emphasised text is always visually rendered in a bold weight, without throwing in small into the mix. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet

Re: [WSG] Semantics and small

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Andrew Cunningham wrote: Jixor - Stephen I wrote: To me small would imply of less importance, like a side note. if you just want text to be smaller for design purposes it shouldn't be in a small would that imply big is more important? big and small are both

Re: [WSG] strong v's b , em v's i

being used. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham andrewc+AEA-vicnet.net.au Ph. 3-8664-7430 Fax: 3-9639-2175 http://www.openroad.net.au/ http://www.libraries.vic.gov.au/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/ *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Chinese translations and PHP includes

Lachlan Hunt wrote: Use html lang=zh Or, if you insist on XHTML, you *must* declare the xmlns and should use xml:lang as well. html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=zh lang=zh Such a language code would be ambiguous and could have unintended rendering consequences in

[WSG] Re: Encoding test page

Keryx webb writes: Andrew Cunningham wrote: Keryx webb writes: That's what we were discussing. If a page is sent as XHTML, one could argue that it's supposed to be self-documenting, and that it might mean that the xml-prologue should be more important than the http-header. As my page

[WSG] Re: Encoding test page

. isn't that the way the browsers are supposed to operate? That the http-header has precedence? Andrew Cunningham Multicultural Officer Public Libraries Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia ** The discussion list for http

[WSG] Re: Do you still support 4.0 browsers?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But in all seriousness, if you were setting up a website for a client who has never been on the web before (no server logs to analyse) and is marketing their gates/fencing business, would you try and support 4.0 browsers? Has the time come to just have a

Re: [WSG] Web page translations

for these languages enabled, or having appropraite fonts available. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet Public Libraries and Communications State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia andrewc+AEA-vicnet.net.au Ph. 3-8664-7430 Fax: 3-9639-2175

[WSG] Re: Multiple language usability query

instead, and I forget what Firefox does. Andrew Andrew Cunningham Multicultural Officer Public Libraries Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

[WSG] Re: Multiple language usability query

Philippe Wittenbergh writes: On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:08 pm, Andrew Cunningham wrote: Firefox Win takes the fonts as specified in the browser preferences (ContentFont colors advanced). It is actually somewhat more complicated than this. firstly the unicode range will indicate what font

[WSG] Re: Websites in Different Languages

White Ash writes: I've designed a website, and we're going to be making an almost identical Japanese version. I'm not sure what is involved ~ is it as easy as including the following at the top of the document: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN

[WSG] Re: HTML Numeric and Named Entities

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Re: [WSG] BOM and charset declaration in CSS

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[WSG] OR 2006 Conference

(Microsoft) on ASP and ASP.Net globalization Alexi Paspalas (BBC), editorial workflow within a multilingual environment -- Andrew Cunningham e-Diversity and Content Infrastructure Solutions Public Libraries Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia

Re: [WSG] Bi-directional text

like an approach I'd expect in the mid to late 90s. Andrew -- Andrew Cunningham e-Diversity and Content Infrastructure Solutions Public Libraries Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia andrewc+AEA-vicnet.net.au Ph. 3-8664-7430 Fax: 3-9639-2175

Re: [WSG] Bi-directional text

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Re: [WSG] Bi-directional text

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Re: [WSG] Page Check: www.qm-consulting.co.uk/test/indextest

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