Re: [WSG] Nested Links?
Yeah, I agree with James. What would be the need for the nesting? It is sort of loosing the reasoning for staying under the web standards. On 4/24/05, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiWhy wouldn't you just do this if you want to link separate pages?a href="" This is a/a a href="">RgdsJamesOn 4/23/05, The Bo$$ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is nesting one link inside another semantically incorrect? Such as a href="" is a a href=""> -- Dante dantecubed.com: Web Design, Development more [EMAIL PROTECTED]**The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** -- Anthony TimberlakeCo-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services - http://www.statichost.co.ukHead Director at Spike Radio - http://www.spikeradio.org
Re: [WSG] Please review http://www.mad4f1.com
Very nice site presentation and I love the way that everything fits in with the theme. Nice use of standards. Very nice site. On 4/21/05, Anthony Yeung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The site looks good, works well with Safari, Mozilla, FireFox,Netscape, IE, and Opera. Good content layout, and best of all no tables.- AnthonyOn 4/21/05, Pixel n Paints [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I am freelancer from INDIA... I have designed a website http://www.mad4f1.com for one of my client CSS JS HTML with NO TABLE tags to make it more search engine friendly... I tried to make it ... cross browser compatible But I am facing problem with footer in IE..a DIV TAG with Class= footer gets overlaid. not always but sometimes. Need suggestions, feedback -- Thanks, Sachin K -- Anthony TimberlakeCo-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services - http://www.statichost.co.ukHead Director at Spike Radio - http://www.spikeradio.org
[WSG] Re: Automated accessibility testers
I am working on a site for web standards, it will include articles and the such. Contact me on my main e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you are interested. Thanks. On 4/13/05, Shane Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cole, This is my first time to reply to anything on the list, so I hope I am doing it correctly:) I recommend Constructing Accessible Web Sites published by glasshaus. This book focuses on the Section 508 Standards and the WAI, but filters all the legalese. It also gives code examples and application examples. I'm about half-way through it right now, and it has made a huge difference in the way I write code. Shane Lubbock, TX I've never tried testing my code for accessibility before but I'm becoming more interested in the topic. After some web-research, I've found a mountian of information/guidelines/priority checkpoints (etc., etc.) to wade through and consider. My eyes are glazing over. First question: Is there a site anywhere that can tell me (clearly and concisely) something like: To achieve section 508 compliance you have to: 1) do this, 2) do that, 3) do the other thing. Most of the stuff I've seen is very heavy on reasons, but somewhat light on the you just need to include this, in this way type of information. -- Second question: Just as a test, I ran one of my pages through a site called the Cynthia Says Portal (http://www.contentquality.com/Default.asp) According to the Section 508 report option (as well as the WCAG - Priority 1,2,3 option) the pages I submitted to the validator all passed according to the validator's result list. Well, that made me smile - but also wonder at the same time. Are these kind of sites a reliable way to verfiy code for Accessibility for Section 508 and/or WCAG Checkpoints? Like, if a client were to say to me Is the site 508 compliant? can I say, well, yeah, the Cynthia Says portal reported that it was. Good enough for me. Well, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? Is there a better on-line validator I should be running my pages through vs Cynthia Says? Since I've become interested in this issue , I want to start off on the right foot in order to make sure these automated, web-based results are telling me what I need to hear. Bottom line is that I guess it'ss hard for me to believed that I've aced-it on the first time out. Any and all input greatly appreciated. Cole Kuryakin Subic Bay, Philippines ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Co-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services - http://www.statichost.co.uk Head Director at Spike Radio - http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?
I find that customers do not care about the standards, they just care that the end user can use it. It's like where the bun came from to the hot dog buyer. On Apr 12, 2005 11:22 AM, Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Bloy wrote: I like this approach and it is pretty much the one I take.I should mention that Web Design is more of a hobby for me.So, I've only had a few clients of my own.But I wonder about the need to go into detail with clients about web standards.Hi,I think you have to be able to read your clients to make this decision.Some clients need or want to be heavily involved in a project, whileothers just want the site up and running and they don't really care howyou go about doing that. I think web standards are important to mention and if the client asks more about them you can certainly go into detail.But does your plumber or electrician go into long explanations about the standards they use when they're working for you?When I hire a professional I'm paying them to use their knowledge and expertise to choose the best standards that are right for the job, not to ask me what techniques I think they should use.Plumbers and electricians, are required by law to perform services tocertain standards and to work within certain safety guidelines andregulations. Not doing so could jeopardize their business and lead topotential damage claims. Because my expertise in these areas is limitedto turning on a light and taking a shower, I have to rely on the*credibility* of the professional I hire. Rather than research thetechniques used to install a breaker box or fix a leaky pipe, I amforced to research the professionals reputation and rates and then makea decision based on that information--the task of which standard to usehas already been established by persons far more qualified than myself.Unfortunately, the Web is a little less restrictive when it comes totechnique and technique can vary greatly.--Best regards,Michael Wilson**The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help**-- Anthony TimberlakeCo-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services - http://www.statichost.co.ukHead Director at Spike Radio - http://www.spikeradio.org
Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2
That's what I would expect from Microsoft, they are always behind, and then when they realize that they need to update, they just copy someone else *ehh hmm, new MSN site*. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:41:01 +1200, Rebecca Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, apologies if this has been posted previously, but there is a somewhat kinder view of this on Eric Meyer's blog @ http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/03/21/exploring-better-standards- support/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 4:13 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Surely the world saw this coming. I dont think microsoft will ever be able to support n e thing ever. Half of me wonders if they even have the talent to create a browser that works. the other half knows they can, but realises they wont! Shaun Johnson - Original Message Follows - From: Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:26:17 - http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ Apologies if this has been posted already == = This email has been scanned for Virus infection by messagelabs.com == = Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Head Director at Spike Radio http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] [ADMIN] Site review requests and new Brisbane organiser
It's due to the changes made in IE6 and IE7, and the stoppage of IE in Mac's. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:04:20 +0300, Will Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, I use both PC and Mac. IE 6 on PC and IE 5 on Mac are different in the way they render identical pages. Will Jensen Moscow, Russia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 23, 2005, at 7:48 AM, John Horner wrote: Can I add one more thing to the site review thing? I often see people asking for their site to be checked on on a Mac, which doesn't really make much sense if you think about it. I can test it for you in the very latest build of FireFox, but that probably isn't what you mean... There are: * browsers which are pretty much identical on Mac and other platforms -- if you've got a problem with Netscape 4 on PC you've almost certainly got it on Mac too * browsers which only exist on Mac, for instance Safari * browsers which have the same names on Mac and PC, for instance IE5, but which are radically different browsers -- don't assume for a second if it works in IE5 on PC it works in IE5 on a Mac so when you ask people to test a site because apparently it doesn't work on a Mac, it really helps to know what browser is being used by the person reporting the problem. Have You Validated Your Code? John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488 Senior Developer, ABC Online http://www.abc.net.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Co-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
Yeah, and will that work with all browsers? On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:30:15 +1100, Johnno Shadbolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The work is a bit special though because I am using pure XML, somehow turned to XHTML via XSL. I'm not sure that using XML for a complete website is very wise, considering we already have the same sort of features in XHTML coupled with CSS. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Co-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
I got a MYSQL error yesterday, I am not sure if you want to check this. I also don't know if it has been reported yet... -- Anthony Timberlake Co-Owner of StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] MSN redesign
I like it, but it leaves room to improve. They are a large company and even I can do better than that. It is nice to see that they are using standards though, not enough sites do that. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:31:30 -, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sarcasm Nice of them to continue support for Mac IE. /sarcasm mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] site: http://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: MSN redesign
But at least it looks like they were. It is better than that crowded horrible page that they used to have. On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:55:56 +0100, Raffaella Biscuso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Timberlake Scrive: I like it, but it leaves room to improve. They are a large company and even I can do better than that. It is nice to see that they are using standards though, not enough sites do that. They are not using real standards: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.msn.com/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2warning=2uri=http %3A//www.msn.com/ -- Raffaella Biscuso ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] content-language
I am pretty sure it is for if you have a second language pack on your computer, the browser will load that before loading your site (allowing the user to see the page in their foreign tongue). On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:34:33 -, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:06:00 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody please explain what the content-language meta tag is useful for? It's not exactly meta tag. It's HTTP header. See: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3282.html Is it required for validity? No. I have a site that is being translated into 6 languages,so should I include all the languages in the content-language tag? No, only actual language of file you are sending. See examples in RFC. Personally I think that HTML lang (or xml:lang) attributes are more appropriate (and precise). -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page
Flash takes a while to load on slow connections. I wouldn't use it due to that fact. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:45:26 -0500, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote: Hello, The thing that I want is that either flash isn't reload on a refresh or loading a new content.. of a way to use flash in this situation where it wont be reloaded all the time. Hope that anyone can help me with this.. else I will have to make the page using frames - which is something I dont want to do [a bit stubborn]. Set up the swf to be passed a variable when buttons are clicked so it will jump to the end of the animation and *appear* not to play every time. - Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content
I like the second one much better! Very nice. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:26:46 -0500, Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Over the last year or so, I've been steadily pushing for improved use of standards within one of my organizations sites. I've moved the site away away from table based layouts and implemented CSS for presentation. The initial transition (01) was an improvement; however, there are still issues with font size and zoom, navigation, headings, forms, and the general semantics of the markup that we intend to address. One of the issues I wanted to address first was source order versus screen arrangement of the various pieces of content. In the current version, the content is last in the lineup and I don't feel that is the best option. I've worked things out to the point (02) that I can place the navigation either first (horizontal example after any promo stuff) or after the main content (vertical example at the top of the side-bar). My question at this point is: which is a better approach--nav first with a skip to content link or nav last with a skip to nav link? I'm inclined to think putting the nav last or at least after the main content is better for screen readers and such as well as for SEO, but I don't have any solid research to back up that opinion. Placing the nav in the sidebar also allows for more font scaling than the horizontal option--it won't have fly out menus, but I'd rather have a home page for each main section anyway. So what do you guys think? 01: http://www.iqmax.com/ 02: http://www.iqmax.com/iqmaxcss/ -- Best regards, Michael Wilson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] User Preference Script
I think I may make one for my site later.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:47:45 +1000, Tony Aslett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kornel,
That looks very similar to something I saw not long ago at alistapart.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/bodyswitchers/
It's a fine solution, but you still need to pre-define each rule in a
stylesheet and there will be browser that don't support the technique.
Tony.
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:34:58 +1000, Tony Aslett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would love some feedback on a User Preference Script
http://www.csscreator.com/generator/userpref.php
Because Opera is not able to modify stylesheet rules,
I've been looking for a different solution, and I found one -
use multiple classes on body:
body class=smallfont verdana red
body.smallfont {font-size: small;}
body.verdana {font-family: verdana,sans-serif;}
body.red {color: red;}
body.red #something.else {color: red;}
This way you don't need to have lots of alternate stylesheets.
You could even put all such rules in a default stylesheet
and have classic style switcher additionally.
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Re: [WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?
I don't like IE, that's why I really don't care if my site's look good in it. But the fact is that people still use IE, and there is a lot of them, so you have to design for that too, even though my sites all look much better is Firefox. On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:45 +1000 (EST), Rob Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Chris Blown wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:20, Chris W. Parker wrote: David R mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think so. It'd just be more of the same. Some people would have old browsers that don't work right and other people would have newer browsers that do work right. Which browsers they are makes no difference imo. I strongly believe that Microsoft are fully aware of their strangle hold and until something like Firefox becomes a significant threat, they will sit by idle without a care in the world and claim that IE is everything their customers wanted. You are right about that. Check out this link, and in particular the referenced email from Microsoft. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/57701967 -- Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Your opinions about my weblog's new layout
Nice. I like how it looks on the screen. Works out nice :) On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:45:21 -0200, Bruno Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: I tried taking a look at your old (current) layout, but something crashes Safari every time. Not sure what causes it. HTH /Roger Hello, Roger. Maybe you remember me. I asked you permission to translate your 'Developing with web standards' to brazilian portuguese. I'm still paning on doing it, but I have no time at the moment. In that time you told me about this thing making my site crash in safari, but I have no mac here to test it, so I don't know what it may be. I think it has something to do with the PHP I added to deliver content as application/xhtml+xml, but I can't figure it out. I'll try to fix that. Thanks. -- Bruno Cunha Torres http://www.brunotorres.net/ http://www.dotplusweb.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry
I like it. It is nice, but I don't really like the colors. Green like that really just dosen't appeal to me. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:53:12 +1100, Jixor - Stephen I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Martin wrote: Beautiful concept... I just would like to see the main column expand to the width of the available space... Have to do a lot of scrolling to reach the bottom... but just beautiful. Just to have a bit of a go at most Zen designs, maybe. It just wouldn't look as nice if it was wider, its a standard characteristic of the zen designs that they are very narrow. However I think in the case of the garden that is fine because its about showing off css, not usability. Zen is this rare case where the goal is to make it as pretty as possible with regard for usability fairly optional (I mean obviously you couldn't take it to the extreme. I just mean little things, like width, colour combinations, etc.) No offense intended. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Interesting Doctype: anyone seen something like that before?
That's just stupid. They better not believe in many people coming to their site, since they have to type things like that. The program is just an assistance on writing the site, the site is all about the programmer. The programmer is the only one to blame, not the software developer. The software is fine, I use it all the time. It helps me to keep track of what code is where due to the color assignment. It also allows me to do live updates of my site, helping me to get my site up a lot quicker and fix mistakes a lot quicker. Of course, I do always validate with XHTML and CSS and then edit any problems with Notepad, since that is the most secure way of doing things once the site is up. I usually use Notepad after the site has been up, to fix errors and things. On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:43:49 -, Rene Saarsoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a page, I tried to validate it (like I always do 8-) ) and suddenly there appeared an error message I had never seen before, but more interesting then the error message was the code that had caused it: !DOCTYPE HTML generated by Dreamweaver, does not conform to W3C open standards OK, they don't want to follow standards, that's okay with me, but blaiming Dreamweaver for that... hey, isn't this the program that many Web Standards activists use? OK, they don't want to be so accessible to all those blind or whatever users, that's ok with me too, but this is a homepage of an health-care organisation... 8-o The page is: http://www.medicum.ee/ Rene. PS. I'm probably going to send them some sort of note about this crazyness. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk http://www.spikeradio.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] My Site
My site is http://www.dotradio.uni.cc. What can I do to improve my site? Is there anything wrong with it? Thanks for your help. -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
The color scheme is what I do not like. Can someone help me find a better color scheme? On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:46:27 -0500, Anthony Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My site is http://www.dotradio.uni.cc. What can I do to improve my site? Is there anything wrong with it? Thanks for your help. -- Anthony Timberlake Owner - StaticHost Internet Services http://www.statichost.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
I do have one set of head, body and html tags. I have validated my CSS and HTML. On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:36 -0500, Al Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Timberlake wrote: My site is http://www.dotradio.uni.cc. What can I do to improve my site? Is there anything wrong with it? I don't mean to be rude but a token attempt at validation is probably in order before asking for suggestions. You may want to start by limiting yourself to one set of head, body and html tags :) -- Al Sessions http://fultonchain.net They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- B. Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
I am not new at this, just haven't done it for a while now. I thought by being on this list, I could get the help I needed. I appologize if I offended you. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:53:26 +1100, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Dec 2004, at 8:10 AM, Anthony Timberlake wrote: I do have one set of head, body and html tags. I have validated my CSS and HTML. Don't see how your HTML can validate. Adding a DOCTYPE of XHTML Strict will not magically convert an HTML document to XHTML. The syntax of your code is entirely wrong - you need, at least, to end the 'unclosed' tags (meta, img, br, etc) in your markup with / instead of just if you want to use an XHTML DOCTYPE. You use tables for purely presentational purposes - eg to place your 'Online' header info at right centre of its containing block - unnecessary, and deprecated. You even use a center tag within a centered p for that header. You have broken code - your subheading 'News' is rendering as 'bNews'. Your markup is totally lacking any semantic approach at all. It's just a stream-of-consciousness procession of divs, tables and ps used to lay out the page in what looks like - to you - a meaningful way. Your css is inline - one of the aims of modern code, and the ethos of Web Standards, is to separate presentation from content by removing css to an external file. You even use font tags! Sorry, but I don't think you get what this discussion list, or Web Standards, is about. If you're serious about your 'website design buisness' (sic) you'll do some serious research into how to do this stuff properly. This list exists to help with problems that you can't readily solve, not to write your code for you. Oh, and regardless of the choice of colours, I'm not sure if you're 'DJ Bullseye', but Didn't Anyone Ever Tell You That Capitalising Every Word In A Sentence Makes The Content Really Hard To Read? Call me harsh, but I just find these 'please fix my site for me' posts just plain annoying. Normally I'd ignore them; just so happens I had a little time to make what I hope are constructive criticisms. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
It is now validated with HTML and CSS. Does anyone have anything else that I can do to improve my site? Sites to read and gain more knowledge, scripts? On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:32:14 -0800, haggis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; I see now that you have changed the doctype to 4.01 transitional which still gives up 2 errors and in the css there are still 8 errors and 1 warning. In the html you are using self closing tags img src= blah blah blah / you don't need that in 4.01 transitional. Plus you have td tags closed that are not open, however, I also notice that it is changing with each refresh so you must be working on it ... good for you ! ... :o) HTH's ... B. William Haggerty VWH Web Services http://vwh.ca - Original Message - From: Anthony Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] My Site I do have one set of head, body and html tags. I have validated my CSS and HTML. On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:51:36 -0500, Al Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Timberlake wrote: My site is http://www.dotradio.uni.cc. What can I do to improve my site? Is there anything wrong with it? I don't mean to be rude but a token attempt at validation is probably in order before asking for suggestions. You may want to start by limiting yourself to one set of head, body and html tags :) -- Al Sessions http://fultonchain.net They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- B. Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:58:20 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try http://colorschemer.com/ Have a look at http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz | janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:58:20 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try http://colorschemer.com/ Have a look at http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz | janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
Excuse me? On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:19:31 +1000, simon dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dude that site bites ! -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My Site
How are you getting errors? http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dotradio.uni.cc%2Fstyles%2F1.cssusermedium=all http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dotradio.uni.cc%2Fstyles%2F2.cssusermedium=all http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dotradio.uni.cc%2Fstyles%2F3.cssusermedium=all http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dotradio.uni.cc%2Fstyles%2F4.cssusermedium=all That is the validator for the CSS. On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:33:59 -0800, haggis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's getting there the html now validates but the css still does not. It has the same errors as before only now they are on all three stylesheets. You cannot list sizes or dimensions without the unit in other words padding: 2; is not valid however, padding: 2px (or em or %) is. and the same goes for font-size: 14px; is how it should read and NOT font-size: 14; You still need to specify a generic font as well Fix those and it'll be fine ... B. William Haggerty VWH Web Services http://vwh.ca - Original Message - From: Anthony Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] My Site I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
They better rethink thatit is a large threat...isn't Firefox like 40% of the people now? --- Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought this might be a worthwhile link for WSG members. Please send flames off list ;) Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE http://news.com.com/Microsoft+says+Firefox+not+a+threat+to+IE/2100-1032_3-5448719.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** = Anthony Timberlake Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]
17.7% (sorry for the 40%)... That's still pretty good for a company that big! Source: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp --- Chris Gandolfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/September/browser.php. Mozilla is still way down at 2% as of September. We'll see about October shortly... Chris = Anthony Timberlake Please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
