RE: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-06 Thread Beau Lebens
Nancy,

Wireframe more often is used to refer to outlined page designs. I.e. a very
rough idea of what a page design will look like, normally just black outline
boxes, no colour, no real text, no nothing :)

They are a way to start visualising the design of a page and how all the
elements will fit together, but are by no means a final design.

HTH

Beau

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// Showing my ignorance:
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// Don't wireframes show flow only? Like the map view in 
// Dreamweaver? Or is it an actual possible design one creates 
// often in Photoshop, though this article indicated Freehand.
// 
// Nancy
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// Ian Fenn wrote:
// 
//  My client wanted something to show internal stakeholders 
// so I started
//  doing a few wireframes but suddenly wondered, Why am I 
// doing this? 
//  Why don't I just build the website using web standards?
// 
//  A day later I finished a working prototype of the website 
// in question.
// 
//  The client is happy but another producer has been quite 
// vocal with his
// 
//  opinion that the prototype was built too early.
// 
//  From my perspective, a prototype has more value than 
// wireframes. Web
//  standards make development much more rapid, so we can 
// respond quickly 
//  to any other needs thrown up before going into production.
// 
//  What do you think?
// 
// Here's my take.
// 
// I think wireframes are a great first step in developing a 
// site with a 
// complex user flow. I'll often literally just sketch them on 
// paper. They 
// take no time at all and are very easy to change. Because they are 
// rough, people don't get too attached to them as well, which 
// is a bonus.
// 
// If I'm creating slightly more polished wireframes I'll do them in 
// Freehand. I've all the widgets and templates created, so I 
// can knock a 
// batch of wireframes up very quickly. I can annotate them myself with 
// instructions or print them out and have people scribble on them with 
// suggestions. All very useful.
// 
// I can then hand them over to the client and they can sign 
// each one off. 
// This forces the client to understand and take responsibility 
// for each 
// wireframe and the signed off wireframes become part of our project 
// spec.
// 
// HTML prototypes can be extremely useful as they give you and 
// the client 
// a real understanding of the user flow. It's fine looking through a 
// batch of wireframes, but nothing gives you the feel of a 
// website like, 
// er, a website.
// 
// However I think you have to be a particularly gifted developer to be 
// able to knock up a half descent HTML template in anything 
// near the time 
// it takes to create one in Freehand (or the graphics package of your 
// choice).
// 
// Also for the HTML template to be as flexible as it's paper 
// equivalent 
// you really do need some mechanism for adding 
// notes/instructions (like a 
// div that you can toggle on and off) and allowing the client 
// to comment 
// and sign them off. Obviously as they are HTML there is no 
// way you can 
// really include them in your spec.
// 
// The other big issue is that people get very protective of 
// their 'code'. 
// I could see it being very tempting not to change something on a 
// wireframe because it's a 'hassle' rather than for any strategic 
// reasons. also their is the temptation to try and cut corners 
// and turn 
// your prototype into the real thing. Never a good idea in my 
// book, as, 
// by definition, a prototype is a rough, rushed version of what you 
// actually want to build.
// 
// My position them would be to always wireframe and to build 
// prototypes 
// when you have the time/budget.
// 
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RE: [WSG] Quark and tagged PDFs

2004-07-05 Thread Beau Lebens
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Cheryl,

I 
don't have any firsthand experience with Quark, but if there is an Adobe 
plugin/tie-in for directly creating PDFs (as opposed to 'printing' to PDF), then 
I would imagine that the choices are there.

On a 
guess, I would think that you'd need to make sure the PDFs being created weren't 
overly 'secured' in the PDF format, in particular they would probably need to 
allow "Selecting and Copying of Text". You'd also have to make sure that your 
people were actually producing *text* in the PDFs, not images that looked like 
text (if you know what I mean).

Hope 
that helps, and as I said, those are guesses, so if there's someone out there 
with a clue, please share it :)

Beau


  
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  Hi, 
  Does anyone know much about creating accessible 
  PDFs using Quark? 
  We're looking at ways to make our site fully 
  accessible, and we use lots of PDFs. I've been reading about tagged PDFs and 
  how screenreaders can read them, but I don't know enough about Quark. Our 
  designers use it to create our PDFs (and it's quite unlikely they will change 
  programs without a good reason). 
  First of all, is it possible to do - can accessible 
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2004-01-20 Thread Beau Lebens

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Hi Cameron,



I am currently using www.phpwebhosting.com and find them very good and very cheap. I 
am considering going to www.dreamhost.com and they look pretty darned good. One of the 
best things they offer that I want is IMAP, which phpwebhosting don't have.



phpwebhosting are very flexible tho, and you get unlimited subdomains, relatively 
unlimited transfers/databases and lots of storage, with more if you need it, so it's a 
tough call at this stage for me :)



oh yeah, and both have shell access which is critical for me :)



HTH



Beau



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RE: [WSG] PDA Browser Testing

2004-01-08 Thread Beau Lebens

// And also this one for Palm OS5 simulator, not sure if this has a browser
// to test with though
// http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/simulator/

If you can get that working, then you can install AvantGo
(http://www.avantgo.com/) which will provide you with browser functionality,
and as far as I'm aware that would be the most popular browser for Palm
devices. With that installed, you can get it to browse content via your
computer's connection.

Beau


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RE: [WSG] PDA Browser Testing

2004-01-08 Thread Beau Lebens

Umm - actually, if you're connected to the 'net on your Palm, you can enter
a URL and browse away to your heart's content (Channels menu - Open
Page...).

from memory the main restriction is that it requires an HTML meta tag in the
header of the document to tell it that it will be able to display the page;

meta name=HandheldFriendly content=True

other than that, it is a browser in it's own right, and can handle a fair
amount of the stuff that a normal browser can (albeit *much* smaller on a
Palm screen :)

Beau

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// AvantGo only allows you to sync with various websites that
// provide an AvantGo feed.  AvantGo is not a browser, it just uses
// the browser on your devices OS to display your AvantGo channels, AFAIK.
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// has a browser
// // to test with though
// // http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/simulator/
//
// If you can get that working, then you can install AvantGo
// (http://www.avantgo.com/) which will provide you with browser
// functionality,
// and as far as I'm aware that would be the most popular browser for Palm
// devices. With that installed, you can get it to browse content via your
// computer's connection.
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RE: [WSG] PHP Question...

2003-12-08 Thread Beau Lebens



?php is more reliable - you can configure a server to ignore "?" 
as an opening PHP tag (short_tags i think the directive is from 
memory).

for 
compatibilities sake, you should always use the ?php tag in your coding, but 
if short tags are enabled, then technically the 2 are the same (both just define 
a block of PHP code)

Beau

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  Question...
  
  Hey People!
  Sorry me 
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  Wondering, what is the 
  difference between using:
  
  ?
  /* php code 
  */?
  
  as opposed to:
  
  ?PHP
  /* php code */
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RE: [WSG] Targeting IE5

2003-10-09 Thread Beau Lebens
Ben, I totally agree, there's so much that can be done either using some
Apache rewrite magic - %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} + Regular Expressions = powerful
client detection or even just with some embedded PHP code or similar so that
different pages and/or sections of pages can be pulled in as required.

There are some totally amazing things that can be done with Apache if start
playing with content negotiation, authorisation and access control and
rewrite rules etc - it's a real eye opener and a whole new world of goodness
:)

Best to all,

Beau


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// I would have thought the best way to target a browser (be it IE5
// or other)
// was content negotiation. Detect the browser and serve content in the
// appropriate format. Does anyone else get the feeling this technique is
// rarely used whilst cruder methods proliferate?
//
// IMHO, web servers can do a lot more than just serve files and should be
// exploited for all they are worth - and that's plenty. I feel this
// cornerstone of the web is oft overlooked, much to the detriment of the
// online experience when cruder technologies are called on to compensate.
//
// Maybe it's just too difficult for developers to get access to webserver
// configuration, or too tedious to produce content in multiple
// formats? Gotta
// weight that against the time and effort we've all invested in workarounds
// and hacks though ... The right tool for the job. One can't solve every
// problem with a hammer.
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