RE: [WSG] which tag to use for link to reference?

2012-06-30 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi

It's called sup/sup

Regards
Birendra

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Are you referring to a citation tag cite?  

Greg


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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:11 PM
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Subject: [WSG] which tag to use for link to reference?

In scholarly paper and report, we often use number (e.g.. 1, 2. 3,  displays
in sup) in between paragraphs when referencing others' work. What is the
name of the tag used in such manner in HTML or ebook format?


Thanks!

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RE: [WSG] Mobile sites

2012-05-15 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi Grant

 

I think Sheldon and Andrew both are right. You have to check your user and 
content of the site.

Here is the best example of the site which look nicely in different devices. 
http://www.kingshillcars.com/

 

You have to study your site material how you want to show the site.

 

Regards

Birendra

 

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Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:13 AM
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Subject: [WSG] Mobile sites

 

Hello,

I was wondering whether having a dedicated mobile site represents an 
improvement with regard to accessibility and standards, or whether it is 
acceptable to have a single site that is adaptable to different screen widths 
(e.g. by means of CSS media queries). Of course, setting up a separate mobile 
site requires additional work and therefore expense.

I would be grateful for comments.

Thank you and regards,

Grant Bailey


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RE: [WSG] Your comment please

2012-04-19 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi

This is not the html5 standard... you use only the css3 but where is the
html5 tag... the tag missing like header, aside... something that... it's
something like plain html site... only remove the document type not make
your site as a html5. 

I think you have to study what is the html5 and what are its advantages...

Keep it up.

Birendra (Designer)

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Subject: [WSG] Your comment please

Hello,
I redesigned a website with HTML5 and CSS3 with responsive design.

The link is: http://www.fhcb.net/HKPR/

Please give me your comments and opinions.
Thank you,
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RE: [WSG] Updated Site

2012-03-28 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi Marvin

It's look a very basic html... make it some interactive... add some color
for the link, title, hover-active effects... some background colors.. which
make your site little bit live...

Right now it's look dead site. :)

Birendra (Designer)

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Subject: [WSG] Updated Site

HI.
well.
have made changes, and fixed other issues, like the wording of say the
contact page, and also fixed spelling mistakes, and like initial capitals on
the occupational health and safety page which some one else pointed out.
so just have uploaded the other pages.
so take a look at:
http://blindaid.ultraweb.us/index.html
Marvin.

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RE: [WSG] Is it possible to style an attribute?

2011-12-19 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi Grant

I assume you want to show a text as a title or alt tag, for this preferred
to use jquery tooltip here you can show the text or text with image in
short you can show anything on hover the link.

Try to use tooltip instead of title or alt tag.

Regards
Birendra

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Subject: [WSG] Is it possible to style an attribute?

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone could clarify whether it is possible to style an
attribute. I realise this sounds odd, so allow me to explain what I wish to
do.

In my web page there are a number of terms that need to be defined. I like
the user to be able to hover over the term and get the definition that way.
For example:

dfn title=Made famous in the #8216;Star Trek#8217 TV 
seriesteleportation/dfn

... produces

Made famous in the 'Star Trek' TV series

... when the user hovers over the defined term 'teleportation'.

I would prefer the words 'Star Trek' to appear in italics instead (yes, I am
fussy). Is there any way to do this?

I would be grateful for responses.

Thank you and kind regards,

Grant Bailey




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RE: [WSG] Accessible Slideshow

2011-12-06 Thread Birendra Patel
Hi Elaine

 

Visit this site. You will find everything here 

 

http://www.downloadjavascripts.com/Carousel.aspx

 

Enjoy

Birendra

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Web Dandy
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:14 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessible Slideshow

 

Hi,

 

Does anyone know of any accessible slideshows which allow text and images?

 

Thanks,

 



Elaine Wildash

Web Dandy
Web Design That Works

 

 


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RE: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?

2011-07-24 Thread Birendra
HI Mathew

 

Thanks for this valuable information.

 

Thanks

birendra

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Mathew Robertson
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:25 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?

 

http://code.google.com/p/bitly-api/wiki/ApiDocumentation#/v3/expand

 

 http://bit.ly/oyBzIY+ http://bit.ly/oyBzIY+

 

You should read the fine print  ie: if you generate a short url, you can
always get back the original url... and its public anyway.

 

cheers,

Mathew Robertson

 

On 23 July 2011 20:43, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Birendra,

It's not strange, what you saw is correct. bit.ly is a short url service. I
had reason not wanting to post the url. Wish there is a way to remove that
email of yours.


Anyhow, thanks for checking. The issue has been fixed.

tee

On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Birendra wrote:

 Strange it's take me to the another site



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RE: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?

2011-07-22 Thread Birendra
Strange it's take me to the another site
http://www.lotusseedsdesign.com/mt/;



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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of tee
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:22 AM
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Strange, it works for me.
 http://bit.ly/oyBzIY

tee
On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Birendra wrote:

 Hi Tee
 
 The link isn't working. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY;
 
 Please can you check the link.
 
 Regards
 Birendra
 -Original Message-
 From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] 
 On Behalf Of tee
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:38 AM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?
 
 p/s: Please ignore my previous thread as it is a static page and the 
 slide images' links to my local server.
 
 I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and 
 this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to
solve.
 
 Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for 
 texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for
IE6/7.
 
 http://bit.ly/oyBzIY
 
 Thank you!
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RE: [WSG] Google 'Alexander Calder' theme

2011-07-22 Thread Birendra
Hi Grant Bailey

This is the html 5 technology, It's hard to study in the locally... but you can 
try for this... But my suggestion study the html 5 and the canvas property. 
There are lot of things you can do with the html 5.

Best of luck 
Regards
Birendra

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Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:46 AM
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Subject: [WSG] Google 'Alexander Calder' theme

Hello,

Today's Google home page theme seems to be a very good example of progressive 
enhancement. The mobile graphic is non-interactive in IE7 but looks fine. In 
Chrome, however, the graphic swings about in response to mouse movements (as 
does its shadow, not present for IE7).

Could anyone advise: (i) what technologies were used for this (canvas, etc.), 
and (ii) whether it is possible to save a working copy of the page locally in 
order to study its function (I've never had luck doing this with Google themes).

Thank you and regards,

Grant Bailey


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RE: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?

2011-07-21 Thread Birendra
Hi Tee

The link isn't working. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY;

Please can you check the link.

Regards
Birendra
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of tee
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:38 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?

p/s: Please ignore my previous thread as it is a static page and the slide
images' links to my local server.

I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this
one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve.

Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for
texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7.

http://bit.ly/oyBzIY

Thank you!
tee


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RE: [WSG] html5 quest: figure

2011-07-18 Thread Birendra
Hi Tee

The first one is the better for the slide show, though the figure tag is the
html 5 tag, so you have to check this in the various browser.

Regards
Birendra(Web Designer)

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of tee
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:17 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] html5 quest: figure

Can the figure element use for slideshow, e.g.

div class=slider
figure
img src=image /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption

/figure

figure
img src=image /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption

/figure

figure
img src=image /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption

/figure

/div

Or maybe the question should be , can a single figure contains many
figcaption? And use it for slidershow's markup.

figure
img src=image1 /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption img src=image2 /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption img src=image3 /
figcaption description,,,/figcaption /figure

Thanks!

tee

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RE: [WSG] border doesn't work when -ms-filter (gradient) is used

2011-07-11 Thread Birendra
HI Tee

That's strange it's work here fine. Normally when you give any id to div or
td you have to mention the same id for the default property. So they are
work fine in ie.

In your case you give the class property in default tag td but actually
this tag came under the #a so I think you have to define #a before the
default tag.

Try this I think this will work.

Regards
Birendra

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:33 AM
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Birendra,

No. It won't. 

td already has a border-bottom. If it works,  #a td will pick up the
border-bottom.

Thanks anywaw!

tee
On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Birendra wrote:

 Hi Tee
 
 Just you have to define the # in the td. Just like this #a td { 
 border-bottom:1px solid #f3c0aa}
 
 This will help you.
 
 Regards
 Birendra(Web Designer)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] 
 On Behalf Of tee
 Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:24 AM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] border doesn't work when -ms-filter (gradient) is used
 
 Is this an IE9 bug?
 
 http://jsbin.com/acawat
 
 First table has -ms-filter: 
 progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient for th and td, border 
 lines are gone except the first (border-top for th) and the last
{border-bottm for td).
 
 Thanks!
 
 tee
 
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RE: [WSG] border doesn't work when -ms-filter (gradient) is used

2011-07-10 Thread Birendra
Hi Tee

Just you have to define the # in the td. Just like this #a td {
border-bottom:1px solid #f3c0aa}

This will help you.

Regards
Birendra(Web Designer)

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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of tee
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:24 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] border doesn't work when -ms-filter (gradient) is used

Is this an IE9 bug?

http://jsbin.com/acawat

First table has -ms-filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient for
th and td, border lines are gone except the first (border-top for th) and
the last {border-bottm for td).

Thanks!

tee

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RE: [WSG] Site test?

2011-05-22 Thread Birendra
Hi

I check the site in the iphone simulator and see there are vertical and
horizontal scrollbar their... might be it's because of the logo and the
header image and slider... as this is still in the design platform you have
to workout on that part. Rest of the things are fine except the navigation
part... the links hard to read.

My view of the site there are lot of work to do in the design part also.

Regards
Birendra (web designer)

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Behalf Of Oliver Boermans
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Site test?

The transition is smooth and the paging buttons just big enough to hit with
my finger on my iPad. Agree regarding the blue on blue nav. Clearly you have
not finished so I'll leave it there.

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 Looks good on my Touch, except the blue on blue nav is a bit hard to read.
The transtions look great!


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RE: [WSG] Colour Schemes for Accessibility

2011-05-09 Thread Birendra
HI

 

According to your site use the pestle color themes. This will give you a
good contrast for the easily readability  for the aged persons. This theme
also give  you a good color theme also.

 

Birendra(Web Designer)

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Chad Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:11 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Cc: Carl Heaton; Seth
Subject: Re: [WSG] Colour Schemes for Accessibility

 

On 5/10/2011 1:50 AM, Carl Heaton wrote: 

Dear WSG, 

 

I am currently consulting for the Social Development Division for ESCAP
United Nations and my team and I are re-making http://www.unescap.org/sdd/

 

The question I have is that has anyone got any tried and tested colour
schemes that dyslexic and colour blind users prefer? I have done my homework
and see lots of contrasts that give the best results but no actual colour
codes.

 

Love to hear your ideas.

 

Kind regards,

 





Hi. 
In terms of this, white text on a black background is what some people
prefer, but black text on a white background is proven to be the most
readable according to some research that was done. 
In terms of colour schemes it comes down to your branding strategy, but the
best way is to test a few out with various people with disabilities, of
various kinds to make sure items are readable. 


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RE: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

2011-05-06 Thread Birendra
Hi Stuart

 

You are right on one point that heavy graphics make the site slower… but you 
can use a gradient to give a life in the site… and for the gradient you don’t 
need to use the images… this will be done by the css techniques… now as per my 
knowledge mobile and ipad device support the new css techniques.. 

 

My only concern is that the site doesn’t has any life… normally user like those 
site which had a good graphics or gradient… 

 

I hope you understand my point of the site designing.

 

As I check the site in the iphone it’s looks ok I can’t say it’s look good are 
very good… something like the site will work without any error or disturbing 
the design… but now a days it’s not only important… user need a site with 
brilliant color scheme or graphics so they are attracted to surf it.

 

Regards

Birendra

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
Behalf Of Stuart Shearing
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:34 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

 

Hi Birendra

 

To say that the site design is not good is fairly subjective and not really the 
point of a “standards” group anyway. Yes, on a desktop browser (firefox 4) it 
looks fairly ordinary but it looks effective enough on my HTC Android and on 
the iPhone 4. I don’t have access to a tablet so I can’t comment further. 

 

Heavy use of graphics and gradients would make the site slower to download, 
especially if the end user was accessing the site over a cellular network.

 

Just my two cents.

Stuart

 

From: Birendra mailto:biren...@viteb.com  

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 1:08 PM

To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 

Subject: RE: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

 

HI

 

The Site Design is not good. It’s something like someone create a site for 
practice.

 

Some of the basic things need to be care… like

Copyright font as been small then rest of the site fonts.

In the iphone menu shown at the middle of the page.

 

Simply it say the site has created on 1970’s theme.

 

Have to use some graphics, gradient which give some life in the site.

 

Regards

Birendra

(Web Designer)

 

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Behalf Of David Laakso
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Subject: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

 

First-pass. Comments and suggestions appreciated.

This end...
Desktop: OS X 10.4
Tablet: No got.
Mobile: OperaMini os SanyoMirro 4 BoostMobile.

uri:  http://chelseacreekstudio.com/m/ http://chelseacreekstudio.com/m/

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RE: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

2011-05-05 Thread Birendra
HI

 

The Site Design is not good. It's something like someone create a site for
practice.

 

Some of the basic things need to be care. like

Copyright font as been small then rest of the site fonts.

In the iphone menu shown at the middle of the page.

 

Simply it say the site has created on 1970's theme.

 

Have to use some graphics, gradient which give some life in the site.

 

Regards

Birendra

(Web Designer)

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of David Laakso
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:40 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Desktop. Tablet. Mobile.

 

First-pass. Comments and suggestions appreciated.

This end...
Desktop: OS X 10.4
Tablet: No got.
Mobile: OperaMini os SanyoMirro 4 BoostMobile.

uri:  http://chelseacreekstudio.com/m/ http://chelseacreekstudio.com/m/

Thanks.
Best,
~d 

-- 
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/fa/


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RE: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] html5 and iframes?

2011-03-10 Thread Birendra
Hi

Thanks for your Replay. I don't know how you check the validation for the
site. I checked the code in the http://validator.w3.org/check and didn't get
any error for the frameborder use.

Check this code 
iframe id=noborder src=http://www.viteb.com; frameborder=0
width=600px/iframe

You didn't get error for the frameborder.


Birendra Patel (Web Designer)
wpajdp.pmm

http://www.viteb.com



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RE: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes?

2011-03-09 Thread Birendra
Use this code
iframe frameborder=0


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RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes?

2011-03-09 Thread Birendra
/noscript
!-- #EndLibraryItem --
/div

/div
!-- #BeginLibraryItem /Library/statcode.lbi --
!-- Start of StatCounter Code --
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var sc_invisible=1; 
var sc_security=1a1acd90; 
/script
script type=text/javascript
src=http://www.statcounter.com/counter/counter_xhtml.js;/script
noscript
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class=statcounter
a title=hit counter for tumblr
class=statcounter
href=http://statcounter.com/tumblr/;img
class=statcounter
src=http://c.statcounter.com/6650893/0/1a1acd90/1/;
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RE: [WSG] why :first-child pseudo-class doesn't work for some selectors/elements?

2011-03-06 Thread Birendra
Hi Tee

Please use div/div tag in your coding. As your css is right but it's not
effected till you didn't mention the parent :)

Example:
div
h2Heading 2 this is the first-child and the bg color should be in
Olive./h2
  h2Another Heading 2 - this /h2
  
   pThis is paragraph and first-child so the bg color should be in Olive
too./p
  pAnother Heading 2 - this /p
/div

Let me know is it work or not.

Regards
Birendra

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Subject: [WSG] why :first-child pseudo-class doesn't work for some
selectors/elements?

http://jsbin.com/apate4/9/

  dt, dd { border-top:1px solid #555;float:left }
  dt:first-child {border-top:0}
dd:first-child {border-top:0}
  h2, p {background:#ddd;padding:15px;margin:5px}
  h2:first-child,p:first-child  {background:#95B26B} p/s. I tried declared
the two individually as I thought maybe they can't be grouped, but it makes
no differences.

According to the spec, it should work.
The :first-child pseudo-class represents an element that is the first child
of some other element.
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#first-child-pseudo

Assigning a class to the element is of no help.


tee

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RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-24 Thread Birendra
Hi Grant

 

As html 5 new tag are not supported to the IE7 and older version as well. For 
your query regard the use of p class-“Header” I preferred to use div 
instead of  the p tag. 

 

p tag has his own value for the margin… and this will difficult to maintain  
the same space in IE and firefox.

 

Regards

Birendra

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
Behalf Of grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:15 AM
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Subject: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

 


Hello,

Could someone please clarify this for me. I realise that HTML5 has introduced 
new semantic elements such as header, aside etc., but does this really 
increase the expressive power of the markup? Can't the same thing be achieved 
in HTML 4.x using classes (e.g. p class=header)?

I am reluctant to move to HTML5 due to the issue of backwards compatibility.

I would be grateful for any replies.

Regards,

Grant Bailey


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RE: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-24 Thread Birendra
Hi Geroge

Visit this article and read the article 4.4. this will give you all the answer 
you have.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/

Have a nice day

Birendra

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Behalf Of G.Sørtun
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x


 Could someone please clarify this for me. I realise that HTML5 has 
 introduced new semantic elements such as header, aside etc., but 
 does this really increase the expressive power of the markup? Can't 
 the same thing be achieved in HTML 4.x using classes (e.g. p 
 class=header)?

 I am reluctant to move to HTML5 due to the issue of backwards 
 compatibility.

If you're just switching doctype - for a start - there aren't any 
backwards compatibility issues.

After all: the new, short, HTML 5 DOCTYPE is introduced because they 
needed a compact mode-switch – and for no other reason. Good browsers 
still don't need it, but IE sure does.
http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_34.html

Unless you really need any of the new elements right now, it makes sense 
to just switch to HTML 5 doctype and relax on all else - including  
backwards compatibility - until the time seems right ... in a few years 
time.

regards
 Georg



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RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

2011-01-21 Thread Birendra
Hi Steve

 

Yes it’s working fine here but I face one problem,  when the lightbox open the 
close button is highlighted first but when you tab 2 or 3 times it’s back to 
the main page and never come back on the light box close button through 
keyboard. In short it’s work only a at the time of light box open, but if your 
focus was out of the box it’s not working through keyboard.

 

Regards

Birendra

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On 
Behalf Of James Grant
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:37 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

 

Hi Steve,

That's an interesting way to call the lightbox and it works with keyboard 
controls for me in IE8, FF3.0, FF3.6  Chrome 6 with scripting both on and off. 
The 'close' button is highlighted by default in all circumstances, a single tab 
pushes the user to 'continue'.

A screen reader also works fine with the content which is excellent! However 
upon closing the lightbox, the screen reader seems to start reading again from 
the top of the page again rather than continuing from where the user left off. 
This would be a problem for forms with many fields each having in-line help 
that calls the lightbox, I'm not sure how you could re-force focus on a form 
item without heavy use of scripting.

- James

 

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:38:01 -, Steve Green 
steve.gr...@testpartners.co.uk wrote:

Yes, it was tested in all browsers and I just tested it again in Firefox on 
Windows and Mac - it works ok for me. What is not working for you?

 

I don't understand your point about the placement of the Close button, but I 
agree that the focus indication should be clearer - we asked for that but it 
didn't get implemented.

 

Steve

 


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Sent: 21 January 2011 04:21
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible modal windows / lightboxes

 

On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:44 AM, Steve Green wrote:

 

Yes, here's one we worked on - 
http://htmltools.moneymadeclear.org.uk/mortgage-calculator/index.aspx

 

 

Have you tested it on Firefox? It doesn't seem to allow keyboard support for 
the modal window. 

Also, a usability glitch IMHO, the close button should be placed in the last 
keyboard control, reason is that, if the content in the modal window is 
intended for reading and there are links within it that depends on keyboard 
control, you won't want users to close the window before they even have a 
chance to tab through the content. Having the close button placed in the last 
keyboard control prevents users to close it - once you hit the Get Started 
(if you miss the enter key (the focus is not as obvious despite the outlined) 
when you are at the button) it doesn't allow you to go through the tab again to 
close the window.

tee


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RE: [WSG] IE hasLayout - the long and short of it

2011-01-06 Thread Birendra
Hi David

As I seen your css, I try to add this value in your h3 css
Display: Block

And then see is it work or not.

Thanks
Regards
Birendra

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:52 AM
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Subject: [WSG] IE hasLayout - the long and short of it

Here's my attempt to put a gradient behind some headings. To get
Microsoft's gradient filter to work, I must give the headers layout.
This causes the headings to expand in width in IE6, and to shrink in IE7:

http://thewebwiz.net/temp/has-layout-long-and-short/

Any solution, even a scripting one, will be most gratefully welcome.
Thank you for your time.

Cordially,
David
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