Re: [WSG] Complex navigation - semantics tab order

2012-07-18 Thread Chad Kelly
On 7/18/2012 3:23 PM, Ben Zeller wrote: Hi all, On a current project we are debating the best way to construct our main navigation in an accessible keyboard friendly format. The navigation consists of three levels - primary, secondary, tertiary. Navigation will be arranged in a horizontal

Re: [WSG] Possibly the best CSS framework ever?

2012-04-01 Thread Chad Kelly
On 4/1/2012 3:05 PM, Russ Weakley wrote: It's April 1st here in Australia :) Yes, I am well aware of that. Did not put two and two together. :p *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Possibly the best CSS framework ever?

2012-03-31 Thread Chad Kelly
No need to use a CSS framework. It is not that hard to style things in CSS once you get the hang of it. Besides it is easier if you actually write less CSS to style a list of links as an example because if you go overboard with styling stuff you end up with clashes in your CSS and that can

Re: [WSG] Flash Professional Accessibility With Jaws

2011-12-12 Thread Chad Kelly
On 12/13/2011 1:35 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: Hi. well maybe andrew kirk patrick can shed light. the only inaccessible program in the adobe cs 5.5 web premium, apart from the drawing programs, fireworks, illustrator, photo shop, cs 5.5 flash professional. not really that accessible. Frankly I

Re: [WSG] Content div sticking out the side of container div

2011-12-02 Thread Chad Kelly
On 12/3/2011 1:42 PM, Stevio wrote: Somehow I do not seem to have come across this problem before. I have two divs, one contained within the other. If the viewport of the browser is resized to be smaller than the contents of the inner div, the inner div sticks out the side of the outer

Re: [WSG] php my admin

2011-11-27 Thread Chad Kelly
On 11/27/2011 8:05 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. if any one is using the wamp server, and php my admin. firefox was a real pain, and got stuck on some of the edit boxes, so had to set my default programs to internet explorer. in windows 7, professional 32 bit, and jaws 13. now. did manage to

Re: [WSG] Breaks within table cells

2011-11-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 11/23/2011 10:53 PM, Russ Weakley wrote: Option 1: Try making the two chunks of content into two individual paragraphs within the one cell. It is not the most ideal semantics, though it could be argued that they are two short paragraphs :) Depending on how the margins have been defined

Re: [WSG] Breaks within table cells

2011-11-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 11/24/2011 1:29 AM, Grant Bailey wrote: A brilliant suggestion that worked perfectly. Thank you very much Chad! Kind regards, Grant Bailey Not a problem Grant. Regards Chad. *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Story Boards

2011-10-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 10/24/2011 3:47 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. well. i am building a complex blindness related site. and now doing this via http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au and now, there is a accessible drawing tool called svg draw 01 from dick baldwin. he is a computer science professor at washington state

Re: [WSG] Accessibility With Moodle

2011-10-22 Thread Chad Kelly
On 10/22/2011 5:07 PM, Grant Bailey wrote: Hi Marvin, Thanks for your post. I'm interested in reading the other replies. I would have thought that accessibility was a priority for Moodle. It is widely used now. Certainly a matter of relevance for persons considering whether to use it as

Re: [WSG] Accessibility With Moodle

2011-10-21 Thread Chad Kelly
On 10/22/2011 1:45 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. using jaws 12.0.1170 and jaws 13.0.241. and doing a online diploma in website development from http://wsi.tafensw.edu.au, and they use http://wwwmoodle.org which is not very accessible with jaws. i have e-mailed support at supp...@moodle.org

Re: [WSG] jQuery accessibility

2011-10-09 Thread Chad Kelly
On 10/10/2011 2:02 PM, Grant Bailey wrote: Hello everyone, Could someone please clarify whether a site built with jQuery is consistent with web standards and accessibility, assuming that the jQuery components: (i) degrade gracefully; and (ii) are not necessary for essential functions (such

Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-09-18 Thread Chad Kelly
Call the other media such as print from an external style sheet. That should fix the issue. On 9/19/2011 1:34 AM, tee wrote: Hmmm, media queries can't understand body tag; a id or class for the tag is needed. Spec on W3C site doesn't indicate though as I see example like so: @media all { body

Re: [WSG] web accessibility with adobe tools

2011-08-24 Thread Chad Kelly
On 8/25/2011 7:44 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. well trying to use adobe online system is a bit of a pain, and having to jump via hoops. so did find their number in australia. so will rin on friday, and see what they say about accessibility in their tools. marvin. I don't have Jaws anymore

Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-08-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 8/24/2011 10:29 AM, karen.cony...@immi.gov.au wrote: Hi Mike, Please forgive me if I am being repetitive as I have not read all of the replies to your question. I have worked in commonwealth government for several years,

Re: [WSG] Breaking validation using noscript - Is there a solution?

2011-07-14 Thread Chad Kelly
On 7/14/2011 11:03 PM, Joseph Taylor wrote: Not sure what to recommend for the noscript tag - Frank's idea is pretty good. Just a thought, is the error really critical if it works? Using XHTML Strict, you're gonna have a tough time making the validator happy. Nice job on the Tesco site by

Re: [WSG] Accessibility Testing

2011-06-24 Thread Chad Kelly
Hi Your best bet would be to look at the tools provided by Vision Australia visionaustralia.org under accessible solutions. They have a free toolbar you can download. I am also looking at providing web accessibility testing services as a part of the services offered by CPK Web Services. Would

Re: [WSG] Accessibility Testing

2011-06-24 Thread Chad Kelly
toolbar offered there, seems to work great and caught a batch of errors I thought were gone after using another validation program. Neat find Chad, thanks for passing it along it's a great resource... Cheers, Doug Burt -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chad Kelly Sent: Friday

Re: [WSG] CSS2.1 now an official recommendation

2011-06-17 Thread Chad Kelly
On 6/17/2011 6:03 PM, Grant Bailey wrote: Hello, I can barely believe that CSS2.1 has only just become an official recommendation (see http://www.css3.info/css2-1-and-the-css3-color-module-become-official-w3c-recommendations/). Could anyone explain why this took so long? Many of us are

Re: [WSG] Google Les Paul tribute

2011-06-09 Thread Chad Kelly
On 6/9/2011 9:23 PM, ben kahans wrote: Yeah, I was blown away and can now play happy birthday and other 3 chord songs without even picking up the guitar. Looked like flash but no, looks to me like all dom programming Strings must be hit areas toggling animated gifs and triggering mp3s -

Re: [WSG] RE: Looking for an authority on RTF [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-06-02 Thread Chad Kelly
On 6/3/2011 11:30 AM, Freckmann, Martin wrote: Thanks to those who responded to my request. I've combined my comments into this reply to save on traffic. Ø*From:*li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] *On Behalf Of *Litchfield Sharon *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011

Re: [WSG] Colour Schemes for Accessibility

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Kelly
On 5/10/2011 1:50 AM, Carl Heaton wrote: Dear WSG, I am currently consulting for the Social Development Division for ESCAP United Nations and my team and I are re-making http://www.unescap.org/sdd/ The question I have is that has anyone got any tried and tested colour schemes that dyslexic

Re: [WSG] screen reader friendly and keyboard accessible popup?

2011-02-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 2/23/2011 9:20 PM, tee wrote: Please take a look at this example. The first example is keyboard accessible however I am also concern with the empty link that may create extra noise for screen reader, e.g if every single page has a popup, it will have two empty links, one is the popup

Re: [WSG] screen reader friendly and keyboard accessible popup?

2011-02-23 Thread Chad Kelly
On 2/23/2011 10:37 PM, Foskett, Mike wrote: Just a few thoughts. It would be better if the keyboard link had an id reference in it. a id=openPopup1 href=#popup1pop-up/a And the associated div had an id: div id=popup1... The close link references the opening link:

Re: [WSG] disallow IE6 to load the main style sheet

2010-12-20 Thread Chad Kelly
- Original Message - From: Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:51 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] disallow IE6 to load the main style sheet Yes. Thank you Felix! best viewed works much better. And then throw in

Re: [WSG] Order of Tags within head (XHTML)

2010-12-15 Thread Chad Kelly
Exactly. Search bots are quite smart now a days, and lets be honest, a lot of so-called SEO experts I thought I should just follow up the above comment, by saying that organic SEO is quite ok, such as the correct use of title tags, eg not filling them with just keywords and making sure they

Re: [WSG] Order of Tags within head (XHTML)

2010-12-14 Thread Chad Kelly
- Original Message - From: G.Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Order of Tags within head (XHTML) On 15.12.2010 03:31, Michal Miksik wrote: I was advised by an SEO company that : The Title tag should be

Re: [WSG] Site for Vision Impaired

2010-11-29 Thread Chad Kelly
- Original Message - From: Shawn Henry sh...@w3.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: Daniel Anderson daniela...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Site for Vision Impaired On 11/26/2010 5:25 PM, Daniel Anderson wrote: I was wondering if any of you

Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic

2010-11-29 Thread Chad Kelly
- Original Message - From: cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: [WSG] alt text on email graphic The technique of using a graphic to communicate an email address in order to foil spiders or harvesters, like

Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic

2010-11-29 Thread Chad Kelly
- Original Message - From: cat soul cats...@thinkplan.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Grant Bailey wrote: This article might also help: