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[Felicity Farr]

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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

[Felicity Farr]

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I am currently out of the office and will return Wednesday 15th February. For any urgent enquiries please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Felicity Farr
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RE: [WSG] Frames ?

[Felicity Farr]

Ugh, is right!



Go with the advice from Terrence.



Duplicated navigation, the risk that the manufacturers sites will use framesetssounds like a
users worst nightmare.



An example might be a great way of
convincing your client not to go down this path!





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Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2005
5:05 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Frames
?



Hi. I am new to the group and have a question.

I have a client who wants to set up his business site in such a way that his
logo and business presence is always maintained when the client
visits a link to one of the manufacturers that my client represents. 

In other words, the site will have a header, a menu on the left and content
under the header and to the right of the menu area. When a customer
clicks on a link (to a manufacturer site which my client represents) within the
content area, he wants the new web page to open up only in the contents area
and leave his header and menu intact. 

Now, I am not a proponent of frames, but this sounds like frames to me.
Is there a way to do this using Web Standards and CSS (my preference) ?

If so, are there any examples of this out there ?

Thanks so much for any help you can give. 

Regards,
KR

RE: [WSG] JK Rowlings and Accessibility

[Felicity Farr]

I love the attitude of the big players...provide a text alternative and
it's instantly accessible.

It's a great message.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] JK Rowlings and Accessibility

AFAIK the flash portion of this site was developed with the help of MM
to
make it accessible for screen readers.

They *do* offer a text-only version so yes, they can claim to be
accessible.


kind regards
Terrence Wood.


Felicity Farr said:
 Read the article:

http://www.lightmaker.com/company/index.cfm?section=latest_newspress_id
 =26

 Does anyone else have a problem with these guys saying that
 http://www.jkrowling.com/ is accessible?

 It fails Priority 1
 It fails html validation

 And unless I have Javascript enabled I can't even access the
 'accessibility enabled version' I can only access a text version
 (disgusting!).

 http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/

 http://www.jkrowling.com/accessible/en/





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RE: [WSG] Justify this

[Felicity Farr]

Also good is Colin Wheildon paper - Communicating or just making pretty
shapes. It's written for print but has some good stuff.

It used to be available at:
http://www.ianmc.com.au/articles/cojmps.pdf


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herrod, Lisa
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 3:17 PM
To: 'Joshua Street '; 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org '
Subject: RE: [WSG] Justify this

We're talking about paragraphs of text here.

It's harder to read, presents 'rivers of white' running through the text
as
lines stretch and contract to fit the line. it's unnatural. it's
probably
unaustralian somewhere too :)

some links:

Rivers of white:
http://www.usability.com.au/resources/cognitive.cfm

More (where roger is referenced)
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/publ
ic_t
extjustify.hcsp


lisa

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Street
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: 15/12/05 15:07
Subject: Re: [WSG] Justify this

Really? Why not?

I wouldn't have said that of justified text, but maybe my response is
an aesthetic one rather than a conscious approach to readability. Is
it something to do with not being able to find the line you were on at
the end/beginning as easily?

(And if we're going to go down this path, what of non-fixed-width
sites, justified or not?)

Not attacking, just... curious. Because I think justified text LOOKS
nicer (n.b. not neccessarily more readable... just more enjoyable to
read.)

Josh

On 12/15/05, Herrod, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Justified text really isn't a good idea in terms of
usability/readability.

 Maybe there was a conscious effort not to support it :)



 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Noone
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: 15/12/05 14:49
 Subject: RE: [WSG] Justify this

 Hi Lachlan,

 Thanks for that but I was actually wanting to center align justified
 text
 for a particular purpose. Evidently my experiment is invalid.

 Thanks anyway.

 --
 Paul A Noone
 Webmaster, ASHM
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt
 Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 2:35 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Justify this

 Paul Noone wrote:
  Hopefully a quick question, I hoope, as the W3C specs are no help on
  this one.

 No, they are usually always helpful but you need to know what you're
 looking
 for.

  I want to centre align text and justify it at the same time. I've
  applied the following mark-up which, surprisingly, does the trick.
But

  can justify be applied as an optional extra parameter, or does this
  just work through browser quirks?
 
  text-align: center justify;

 If that does anything at all, it's a browser bug.  That property
should
 be
 ignored by a conforming browser.  Centred and justified text are
 mutually
 exclusive options and it makes little sense to combine them like that.
 However, I'm going to assume you're looking for a way to centre the
box,
 but
 have the text justified within.  In which case, this should do the
 trick:

 p { width: 50%; margin: 0 auto; text-align: justify; }

 Just use an appropriate selector and width for your needs.

 --
 Lachlan Hunt
 http://lachy.id.au/

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