Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Lau wrote: http://www.hellobenlau.net/wsg/index.html I'm wondering if there was a way to top align the text to its line-height. So say, with text size 20px, could the top of the 'T' be aligned to the top of the pink box? Is this what you want?

Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Lau wrote: This is what I'm trying to achieve: http://hellobenlau.net/wsg/eg.gif So there'll be a div with padding top and bottom of 20px, and with text inside. If I do: div style=padding:20px 0 psome text/p /div The gap would include both the padding and the anonymous inline boxes

Re: [WSG] a bizzare background image disappearing bug in IE

2009-04-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Two divs wrap - background image not showed up in iE6/7 http://lotusfromthemud.com/gbtv/products.html Old IE usually doesn't render an absolute positioned element when it is next to a float in the markup. In that particular case: move the div class=tvimg below the div class=clear

Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-04-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Eyemax Studios wrote: You can have a look, it's www.studiojunkyard.com I would be more inclined to fix it, when have time hehe. Well, it definitely isn't what Microsoft believes the Standards should be. All KHTML/WebKit and Presto browsers agree with IE8 (in Standards mode), and only Gecko

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Ducker wrote: Can you not use a conditional? Of course one can. It's far more reliable than CSS hacks, which may cause problems in future browsers. I don't agree with that assessment, providing one work a bit on selecting the right CSS hack and don't just use any hack because it

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote: To my mind, that is the definition of a CSS hack - it is abuse of a bug that is believed to only apply to the required browser(s) Mmm. One exploits a bug to kill/fix another bug, and triggers an unknown number of bugs in various browsers - present and future

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alex wrote: I dont understand why anyone needs to hack anything. If you design to web standards and use a logical structure/layout with good use of floats or positioning, you can develop a page/layout that works in all browsers. It usually takes a bit of tweaking but it can be done. Sure,

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Prashant wrote: I have tried the following but for some reason IE7 is picking IE6 hacks only - Which means IE7 is in Quirks Mode - on level with IE5.5. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alex wrote: Blimey, you norwegians are a tad opinionated. Nah, we just just like to be given a valid reason for changing our minds. Comes with the territory - we never take the easy way out since there isn't any in this country :-) What does 'one' actually think 'one' is going to acheive in

Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Prashant wrote: I need to implement a padding-left:65px in IE7. Which mode is IE7 in for your document? Hacks like... *:first-child+html #foo .bar {...} ...will only work in IE7 Strict Mode. If it doesn't work in Strict Mode, then something is overruling it. Georg --

Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote: http://www.calcresult.com/reference/text/unicode-reference.html The rendering of that page is slightly broken (at the moment) in IE6 and IE7 in that the right-hand column overlaps some of the content. What confused me though, was that IE8 insisted on

Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Sorry for my ignorant, is IE8 out? Yes, as of March 19th. Keep an eye on a site like this... http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/ ...and you'll at most only be a few days off regarding new releases. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Leslie wrote: Using meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=8 / will also have the same effect (getting rid of the compatibility view button and forcing standards mode), but may be a bit more stable against future releases of IE. But, may also lock documents to IE8's rendering

Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4

2009-03-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: By the way, Google Chorme behaves as Safari does. Not during my testing, but that may be conditional. Conditional is problematic since that mean behavior may change with factors like OS and connection speed = highly unreliable. Tested Chrome, OmniWeb and Arora - all complete

Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mike Kear wrote: For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent browser on my two highest traffic sites. Of course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience. Not entirely new, but much broader...

Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4

2009-03-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Thanks for checking. Adding the above rule makes the thumbnail unclickable when no thumbnail shows up. If I refresh the browser to make thumbnail shows up, then it's clickable. Yeah, the various Safari versions show very different behavior for the script. - Safari 3.2.x indeed

Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4

2009-02-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: On this site, in Safari (PC and Mac) you will see that the thumbnail(s) in the gallery (jquery galleria) is either not showing up or the image gets distorted (should be 80px). You may not see it from the first visit, should this be the case, please click on other page, then come back

Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4

2009-02-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
daniel wrote: it would be much more interesting to discuss IE8's compliance again. All compliant sites that I've made render fine in Safari 3 4 and FIrefox 3 but always fail to work 100% on IE... It isn't about standard compliance for your sites, but which standard IE8 is limited to - CSS

Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

2009-02-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jon Gunderson wrote: http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu Please let me know what you think of it. First impression: good. Informative page reports. A few points... 1: i and b can in many cases not be replaced by h1..h6 or em and strong. Both i and b are valid - span-like (no implied semantics) -

Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing

2009-02-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dorward wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: 2: according to specs (and browsers) a character encoding stated in an xml declaration is good, and further stating unnecessary. No warning should be given in such a case. An ?xml ? declaration (or anything else before the Doctype) will trigger

Re: [WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?

2009-02-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left? Only if the div is styled to contain floats... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_example_01.html Lots of options linked in on that page. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] Implication of empty divs

2009-02-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Lau wrote: But as far as i know, screen readers do not pick up IDs or classes? So even by declaring a div ID=mainNav, it's still not enough to describe what's inside the div? I'm starting to get awfully confused... A div is an element primarily intended for grouping blocks of content -

Re: [WSG] Implication of empty divs

2009-02-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Lau wrote: Are there any (seriously) bad implications of having empty DIVs around your HTML document? I understand from that that you mean nested divs, for multiple backgrounds etc. A few extra divs means nothing other than extra weight, but I have managed to break a few older browsers

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: [...] Now I realize where most of my problems have stemmed from. Note that nearly all such designer bugs will be caught if you follow WCAG2 recommendations and resize text in a browser to at least 200% of browser default. (Default is 16px on 96dpi screen resolution in

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: IS 200% one time font size increasement or two? 200% is twice the default size, and the number of steps to get there varies from browser to browsers. Again: _default_ isn't whatever size you have declared in/for your document, but the browsers' own defaults. This default font size

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement one or two clicks? Much more than that,

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
default (100%) to reach the text-size and line-height they're at (at 200%), as shown below. Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Side-by-side comparison and measuring on various OSes (96dpi res. all to avoid any misunderstandings) reveals the following: - Firefox (3.0.5 3.1b2) seems to increment in 10

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Maybe someone can do a control check, measure the actual sizes on screen for zoom values and mouse-wheel resizing steps for 'text resizing' vs 'full page zoom' set at shown values, and let us know the results. Just to make sure we're resizing the same way: notice that I

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: If my site is visited in Firefox or Internet Explorer first, you can see that everything aligns perfectly. Not if that browser is called IE8, I'm afraid. IE8 agrees with Opera10alpha. http://ttcharriman.edu/TTCH07/iftprojects/brettpatterson/index.html It's a

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net IE7 is dead - meaning: stable, Ah, well, most people would consider dead and stable to be two entirely different things. Dead is more akin to abandoned or unsupported. OK, guess my choice of word

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: You should rethink the positioning method, and forget about deviations between browsers until you have stabilized it in one. I do not understand this either, unless you are talking about using margin as the positioning method. I have stabilized it one browser. This

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
) compatibility view. Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Besides: one should only target/hack dead browsers, like IE7 and older. Targeting/hacking live browsers like Opera, Firefox, Safari etc. for real, will only create maintenance-problems as new versions arrive. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] Clearing a row with floated list li

2009-01-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Collins wrote: I can add a class of clear to every third list item, which is great, but I'm still having troubles in getting them to behave in IE. Has anyone got a solution, or seen on online lately?! Didn't check for the actual case, but it's usually safer to declare 'clear: left' than

Re: [WSG] Parenthesis around list counters

2009-01-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James O'Neill wrote: We are a small county displaying our ordinances and parens are important for legal notations and references. If such details are important, they should be written in plain text. Regardless of whether a method is found or not, one can not rely on browsers support for

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Hudson wrote: Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? Yes, and all that goes with it - like IE-expressions. I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. IE7 same as IE6. From the look of it - brief testing - IE8b2 also turns off script-support in high security mode.

Re: [WSG] Chrome and Safari render the same...or do they?

2009-01-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: I'm running into big rendering differences between Google Chrome and Safari 3.1/PC. They are said to render pages the same, given that they're using the same Webkit engine. They're using the WebKit engine, not necessarily the same version. Safari is at version 3.2.1 last

Re: [WSG] pos- relative or margin?

2009-01-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Naveen Bhaskar wrote: I have seen a page where all the divs are positioned with position relative and with top , bottom attributes instead of margin.. Is this a good method? Depends entirely on the actual layout. I often use both relative offset and margin push/pull on the same elements.

Re: [WSG] issues with too many divs

2009-01-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Lau wrote: Are there any major downfall in doing so apart from increasing page size? I'd like to be able to convince our designer to simplify the design... No UA will have problems with a dozen or so extra wrapper-divs around every single element in a page - doesn't even have to be valid

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: David Hucklesby wrote: The validator still needs a DTD though. If you mean the W3C validator, then no, it just got experimental HTML5 support. And the W3C validator misinterprets XHTML5 to be some lesser XHTML flavor...

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andrew Maben wrote: XML is not going away, so by all means hope for an XHTM revival somewhere down the road, but for now, if it's text/html then shouldn't it be HTML as HTML, and not XHTML treated as HTML? IMHO, naturally, and of course YMMV. Of course. We have choices and preferences :-)

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: From the few recent posts, I have become so far confused, as anyone would as to why, Gunlaug, you keep stating xHTML5 or as above you say XHTML5? HTML and xHTML/XHTML are different. xHTML is XHTML, albeit 1.0 or 1.1 or 2.0 etc. So, is it a typo? No typo, but I

Re: [WSG] Disappearing legends in IE 6

2008-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: Unless anyone here knows what good would come of applying negative margins to legends, I'm going to remove them for good. Probably this you're looking for... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_18a.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being -

Re: [WSG] CSS font-size-adjust

2008-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: Could someone please read the body of my email instead of just looking at the title and then post a response that is on-topic? OK :-) CSS2's 'font-size-adjust' support is limited to Gecko/Fx IIRC, and is probably put on hold by the W3C CSS group for the time being -

Re: [WSG] google and validation

2008-10-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: So, Gunlaug, in essence, (essence being the operative word), you do validate your site by using tidy? Correct? I mean if you trust tidy to correct your code and all the code that tidy puts out is, as you say, 99.9% effective then that is kinda like validating, right?

Re: [WSG] min-might question

2008-10-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: I cannot control or foresee how long the content in the 'set-minheight' div be. What do I do to have the p tag always stay at the bottom of the block? For the example it's pretty strait forward as the p will always stay below the 'set-minheight' div, no matter how much or how

Re: [WSG] min-might question

2008-10-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: 'min-heigh' talls enough is the problem. If I can't forsee how long the content will be, how do I decide the set the value of min-height? http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/mh.html The design is the fixed width, but even with fuild layout, it's a problem not knowing how tall

Re: [WSG] google and validation

2008-10-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Hi, I am just curious how many people in this list actually spend extra time making a validation error free page for the sake of validation when third party's code is embedded. Surely the above example is an easy fix, but how about embedding google calendar or other scripts? I

Re: [WSG] 1px difference between IE and FireFox

2008-10-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Taco Fleur wrote: http://www.onlinemarketingplatform.com.au/ In Internet Explorer there is a 1px difference in the evolution image. IE6 doesn't like odd numbers so it rounds off 'height: 135px' on h3 to 134px - making the h3 1px too short. IE7 handles odd numbers better so it gets the height

Re: [WSG] 1px difference between IE and FireFox

2008-10-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Taco Fleur wrote: The cause of this problem is something I've never encountered in my 14 years of web dev, this is amazing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, IE moves in mysterious ways, but one can always follow its path and figure out which bugs we're dealing with :-) What IE6 does with odd

Re: [WSG] old horizontal list formatting issue in ie

2008-10-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
kevin mcmonagle wrote: Floating the images/ anchors contained in the li's left next to each other is what im trying to do. But right now each li streches to the width of the ul so the cant float left. Even distributing them evenly would be fine though. You're running into specificity

Re: [WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.

2008-10-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andrew Brown wrote: Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with various solutions. The live demo is here: http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/index.html Stiffen up IE's backbone with a 'hasLayout'[1] triggering declaration. Add... div.footer_wrap {height: 1%;} ...and

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joe Chiang wrote: Perhaps, implement something like 'sticky sidebar' or 'position fixed' to present the 'Return to top' link rather than adding it after each section is another option I look favourably at. Obviously, I need to work out on IE6 for this.

Re: [WSG] Setting HTML and BODY background not working

2008-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cole Kuryakin wrote: http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=001001 The height of the body image (the hiroshige painting) - rather than showing in full - seems to be getting cropped by the height of my wrapper div. Add... body{ padding: 1px 0; min-height:

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joe Chiang wrote: I have some VERY long pages in the website I maintain. Currently, I insert 'Back to Top' after every section in the page. Sometimes, I feel they are disturbing and am not sure if there is any better way to do it or don't insert them at all. Unless clients insist on having

Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
May I suggest that we fix an Up link at the bottom and a series of section tabs and Skip to ... at the top of the window - 'position: fixed' that is. Should work on all but the smallest windows and in all the latest browsers, and are easy to reposition or turn off for print. IE6 will have to

Re: [WSG] Is it a good/bad practise to have more than one same link url?

2008-09-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: As far as SEO concerns, it seems to have an advantage because google image search and a few other image search engines (can't remember their names). This seems to be very useful for sites that sell products, image stock and photographers Have to keep that in mind when I'm looking

Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6

2008-09-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Having a problem with suckerfish drowndowns, ie6 shows the nested lists expanded to the full height of all li's. Im doing the css for a programmer and im not sure whats going wrong. is it possible the javascript fix isnt being picked up? Im not doing that part of the

Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6

2008-09-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
kevin mcmonagle wrote: cheers george. i thought the !important; fixed that but apparently not. menus height ok in ie6, just have to give it a conditional comment for the width now. Suggest you add this package instead of something in a CC... #mainMenu li ul {padding: 0; } * html #mainMenu li

Re: [WSG] Is it a good/bad practise to have more than one same link url?

2008-09-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: I was thinking maybe it's a SEO question and shouldn't post it here, however, the more I think about it, the more I feel it deserves a semantical perspective and wonder if it creates obstacle for screen reader. Might be seen as noise, but can't see any other problems with

Re: [WSG] Background-Image not displaying in IE5 IE6

2008-09-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kristine Cummins wrote: I have a div container that has a background image (gradation) which is displaying fine in IE7 Mozilla, but it's not displaying in IE5 IE6. http://www.cpwrehab.com/test/index.html Add... * html #container, * html #headercontainer { height: 1%; overflow: visible; }

Re: [WSG] please help me understand how Opera (9.5) deals with em, % and pixel

2008-09-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/opera.html [1] input element or class has background color borders - no checkmark (or tiny checkmark depending on the width/height of the class for input element) in checkbox. Padding seems to cover the area, and does so until the padding

Re: [WSG] please help me understand how Opera (9.5) deals with em, % and pixel

2008-09-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Is it just me kept running into issues with Opera? I really don't remember having these problems so obvious with pre-version 9.5 that I can't tolerate. I am getting this impression that the evolution of Opera has come to an end and now it's rapidly reversing back to the buggy

Re: [WSG] please help me understand how Opera (9.5) deals with em, % and pixel

2008-09-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Hi Georg, very nice to 'see' you :) :-) http://lotusseedsdesign.com/opera-test/opera-has-issue.png I am narrowing down to the % and em that are causing many problems I have encountered. The site is in my localhost therefor I can't post it, but I will move it to a webserver

Re: [WSG] Position and peace of mind

2008-09-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Unsworth wrote: So my questions to the group are; Was the decision to write the markup in the order I did correct or pedantic? Because if I didn't then I wouldn't have the layout issues I'm having I'd guess. Positioning out of visual order on a detailed level, can easily create more

Re: [WSG] Code for Firefox, hack for IE

2008-09-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David McKinnon wrote: For a while now, I've been operating on the principle Code for Firefox, hack for IE. Is this the way anyone works? Apart from that I code for the most standard compliant browsers (plural) at present time, and then hack for various IE versions, I think I'll go along

Re: [WSG] Figures out issues. Standards for troubleshooting css

2008-08-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Fred Ballard wrote: For problems with box alignment, I know I usually turn on background colors to clearly see the size and position of the boxes the browser is using. Or is that a newbie answer? Definitely not a newbie method. Setting backgrounds is one of the quickest ways to check

Re: [WSG] Mystery Margin or Padding in FF and IE

2008-08-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cole Kuryakin wrote: Hello All - I'm developing a new framework for my projects and have come across something I can't get rid of. Go here: http://www.koisis.com/.framework/-public/index.php If you look at the purple float that contains a beige main content area, you'll see that the beige

Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems

2008-06-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jens Nedal wrote: [...] If you ask me, i would say that a double br is a p already. Look at word processing programs. When you wish for a double br you will simply type Enter. If you want a line-break you will mostly do a Shift+Enter. Word processing isn't web design, and one has to look

Re: [WSG] IE6/7 behaviour

2008-06-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rob Enslin wrote: Although not a standards-based question (I think) I wonder if anyone has the 'fix' for it? The page: http://www.servicemanagement.co.uk/new.htm Maybe better to trigger standard mode in browsers first, and add fixes later. The combination of declarations you have now is a

Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems

2008-06-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Must you Australian's *always* have the last say? ;) not always, but often. esp if it ends in beer and a party Is that why what you say most often makes no sense? :-) Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List

Re: [WSG] W3C HTML Validation of an Intranet site

2008-06-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.terasengas.com%2FHomes%2Fdefault.htm I am really confused. Can anyone explain? What the validator says: There's one end-tag too many for a link on line 91. Delete one /A in that line.

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Darren West wrote: An alternative could be to develop with relative sizes for all measurements, allowing the interface to be scaled to any screen resolution. Examples can be seen at http://www.linkedin.com and http://www.sky.com Dysfunctional examples, but they clearly show what many mean by

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: But when the link has sub-menu items under it, all of those get the same treatment! Because the styles are applied to the list item. Can anyone think of a way to do this that would not affect the sub-menu? http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/stLucia.html

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Re the font-resizing - sigh!! For a lot of the websites we develop at the university here, we're supposed to use this awful template, which includes the lefthand menu like this. In the template it's all in tables!! I got the way of doing this menu from

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

2008-05-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's the general consensus on the use of null or empty alt strings as per the reasons outlined in the article below? http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/accessible_alternatives.html The choice between alt-text or no alt-text depends entirely on whether an

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

2008-05-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Designer wrote: I'm getting confused now - on MY IE6, the title is displayed on hover, not the alt. I was originally testing with my standalone IE6, so I checked on my laptop, (with 'real' IE6) and got the same result! Me too. IE/win shows title-text on images when such exists, otherwise it

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

2008-05-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Darren West wrote: There is the argument that you are changing the behaviour of IE, however wrong it is, it could be what users expect. I believe Jaws ignores empty attributes so all good there ... I do not think one should meddle with a browser's behavior in minor cases like showing alt-text

Re: [WSG] help with menu positioning

2008-05-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Tell me, what do you like for Christmas gift ? An internet-connection that is extremely fast and works all the time ;-) (Maybe I'll get one before Christmas, but I'm not holding my breath.) Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/index6.html That big image on the right is a bg image in a container that has absolute positioning. It works fine in Firefox on my Mac, but IE6 it drops down. Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong? You're trying to

Re: [WSG] help with menu positioning

2008-05-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: My brain isn't working. I thought I have the answer but it's not working :-( http://lotusseedsdesign.com/menu.html Missing base-position... #menu li a {background-position: left top;} Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Quirks mode is the best mode for the old bugger known as IE6, IMO, Care to clarify why, exactly? I listed a few reasons down this page some time ago... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_16.html ...and nothing seems to have changed

Re: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Did anyone do some more testing with IE8? Yes, and I've concluded here... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_32.html Do we know any better release date than mid year? The later the better, as the IE-team got plenty left to fix if they want IE8 to end up as a

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: On top of using a correct Doctype, authors need to make sure that nothing (e.g., XML prolog or HTML comment) comes before the DTD or it will send IE into Quirks mode. Quirks mode is the best mode for the old bugger known as IE6, IMO, which is why I make sure to always

Re: [WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

2008-04-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Likely, James A. wrote: The footer on the page is not appearing, but the space that it is meant to hold the footer is present. I know about the peek-a-boo effect for IE, but this does not seem to be the case. Does any one have any suggestions on how to fix this? Example:

Re: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.

2008-04-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rob Enslin wrote: I've recently built a website trying to move towards more standards-compliant code. After the delight at pushing the site live my world 'caved in' (a little over-dramatic maybe) this morning when a colleague noticed rogue 'ls. text some way down the home page. Live site:

Re: [WSG] premature to test/worry new site for IE8?

2008-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: I am about to start coding for a new site, and client asked me to make sure my code will work for IE8, meaning when IE 8 comes out, she doesn't need to pay me extra to fix any problem that may occur in IE 8.Client is from a web media company, though I understand her concerns and

Re: [WSG] Spolsky on IE8 flag

2008-03-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lea de Groot wrote: Joel Spolsky has published an ... interesting article http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/03/17.html Microsoft failed to follow the evolutionary trail and keep up with common standards - to the degree that such exists, and now they try to catch up without causing a

Re: [WSG] Opera 9.26 Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Web Dandy Design wrote: [...] However the client's French distributor says that the site doesn't look right when they are using Opera v9.26, revision 8835, Win32, Windows XP. Has anyone ever come across this problem before? www.charis.uk.com http://www.charis.uk.com/ . Breaks the same

Re: [WSG] Opera 9.26 Problem

2008-03-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Web Dandy Design wrote: Can you advise what would need to be done to the site to 'make it work' in Opera? Add... #left-col {clear: left;} ...and the problem is solved in all browsers and on all resolutions. The problem was that the left-col got hung up on the horizontal nav's right edge when

Re: [WSG] inline floated right problem in Firefox

2008-03-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: http://lotusseedsdesign.com/firefoxbug.html I have not tested this page in IE as my Parallels desktop has networking issue and I can't connect to the Internet from Windows XP, so I am not 100% sure if the problem only occur in Gecko browsers. IE/win handles it like Firefox.

Re: [WSG] Links are not hot in ie8

2008-03-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I think it's going to be a fun ride... I really don't think it's time to saddle up yet :-) http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp So, they still have those stacking-bugs to sort out. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] multiple css style sheets

2008-03-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
dwain wrote: On 3/1/08, Melissa Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aaah no, there is nothing invalid about more than one stylesheet link tag in the markup do you have a link for your side? Validity isn't a problem, but don't add too many stylesheet links or style elements in the markup -

Re: [WSG] multiple css style sheets

2008-03-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
dwain wrote: On 3/1/08, Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you have a link for your side? validator.w3.org? what about the w3c specs? http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/styles.html#h-14.3 I think this gives us

Re: [WSG] re: generate data

2008-02-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
dwain wrote: if accessibility isn't cracked up to what it's supposed to be, then why are there laws about the subject? The laws are probably there to prevent accessibility from falling through the cracks. Consciously or unconsciously ignoring access for all is after all more the norm than the

Re: [WSG] Please help! - CSS Drop Down not working under IE 6

2008-02-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cole Kuryakin wrote: First, go here under IE 6: http://www.crewasia.ph/index.php The drop down menuing system at the very top of the screen DOES work (it drops down correctly). You can even select the FIRST menu item on each drop down menu. But, when you try to cursor over any other menu

Re: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: thanks very much for your solution - it works perfectly. Could you please explain how the margin works with IE6? I wonder how the top margin eliminates the left margin when I apply it. Thank you. Not sure I understand your question - which margin eliminates what, since

Re: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. I cannot apply the usual remedy (floating the paragraph) as I need any element next to the floated offender to be indented. Hence the paragraph has a left margin which cannot be zero.

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Designer wrote: Maybe, but coding in xhtml1.1 makes you MUCH more fussy about syntax etc. and it shows up any 'well formed' errors as soon as you browse. So, whilst the user will know nothing about all this, it makes you as a designer get lots of practice in using the stricter syntax, ready for

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

2008-01-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Well, apart from that I don't like IE/win version targeting one bit, if MSIE uphold this version targeting strategy in future versions, we may as well use it to our advantage. Sidelining IE/win while designing for standards and better browsers, doesn't have to become a problem for designers or

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