Re: [WSG] css from photoshop file?
On 19 Mar 2004, at 09:52, Mark Stanton wrote: Tip #1 - make sure the psd files come from a designer that understands CSS. Good luck, there aren't many of them ;-) Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ -- Disclaimer: I am currently traveling and connect to the Internet sporadically. As such, much of what I write offline may be days (or more) old when it gets sent, hence the content may have been superseded by other people's emails. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] css from photoshop file?
On 19 Mar 2004, at 10:18, Mike Brown wrote: Off the top of my head, some things you may need to sort out with the designer: :: is it a fluid or fixed-width layout? :: do you use fonts or images for navigation? :: do elements on the page have to be exactly the pixels apart shown in the design, or do you have some flexibility there? :: is it clear from the design what elements are heading elements - h1, h2, etc? HTH Some excellent tips, Mike. These are /exactly/ the kinds of things that need to be considered. In addition, are there any more mock-ups that can be provided that show other eventualities, such as: * What about when you have a lower-level heading? * What to do when content overflows what appears to be a predefined area - scrolling? Where do the stretches take place? There are probably tonnes more of these but they've probably already been addressed by the list. The main thing was to say bravo for the points mentioned above. Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ -- Disclaimer: I am currently traveling and connect to the Internet sporadically. As such, much of what I write offline may be days (or more) old when it gets sent, hence the content may have been superseded by other people's emails. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter
On 19 Mar 2004, at 00:43, russ weakley wrote: The next Sydney meeting has been moved back from the 8th to the 15th April to avoid the Easter long weekend. If I'm still in Sidders, I'll come along, but I think I'll be somewhere near Melbourne or NZ by then :-( I mean, for missing the meeting otherwise I'm more :-) Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ -- Disclaimer: I am currently travelling and connect to the Internet sporadically. As such, much of what I write offline may be days (or more) old when it gets sent, hence the content may have been superceded by other people's emails. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] A rave about h1's
On 19 Mar 2004, at 01:24, Jeremy Flint wrote: I do believe that he said officially, not really speaking for himself, but for the CSS community that supported that method as a whole. It was just a turn of phrase - using the language of specs and such like (and yes he did say those exact words), but really what he was saying was this: As of this day, I'm no longer gonna push FIR because frankly we opened a can of worms ... unless someone can figure a way to get those worms back in that can. Actually, it's probably better what he said ;-) Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ -- Disclaimer: I am currently travelling and connect to the Internet sporadically. As such, much of what I write offline may be days (or more) old when it gets sent, hence the content may have been superceded by other people's emails. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] dreamweaver
On 18 Mar 2004, at 09:41, Jeremy Flint wrote: how many are successfully using the WYSIWYG on a consistent basis and doing standards compliant work? Sooner or later, you have to get into the code. I have used DWMX for a long time and managed to keep standards up to par, but mainly because I have done most of the hand-coding first in another editor (HomeSite/BBEdit); then I use DW for it's templating/site management facilities. Thereafter, if all I'm using it for is to enter/amend text in areas that I've defined as editable, it's great. DW is not the quickest editor for markup, but overall I think it does an excellent job of creating standards-based markup - better than any other wysiwyg editor that I can think of, anyway Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ -- Disclaimer: I am currently travelling and connect to the Internet sporadically. As such, much of what I write offline may be days (or more) old when it gets sent, hence the content may have been superceded by other people's emails. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Accessibility checkers for Mac (OS X)
On 9 Mar 2004, at 14:08, Paul Ross wrote: You can download the free web developers toolbar extension for Mozilla and Firefox browsers which has a handy quick link to the Bobby WCAG 1.0 and Bobby 508 accessibility checker. You can get it here: Yeah, got that - I guess I'm being greedy, as I want a standalone - as in no internet connection required - application like Web XM for the Mac ... Alas, it will never happen :-) Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Bobby question
On 6 Mar 2004, at 20:44, russ weakley wrote: Here are some other online accessibility tools: snip .. and if I may be so bold, you might find some of these useful (and there's a pop-up window generator there too): http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/default.asp Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Bobby question
On 6 Mar 2004, at 21:44, Martin Chapman wrote: I was finding it bit daunting, since the site I am re-coding is based on ASP.NET, and as I am sure many of you know... Microsoft + ASP.NET + web = 666 Reall, what we need is a book that explains how to achieve acceptable levels of accessibility using tools/technologies like ASP.net and (deep breath) FrontPage. There are a lot of sites built by admin type bods using FrontPage because, well, it's cheap or comes as part of a standard desktop software install for come corporates. it's there so it gets used and we know what the end result is. I'm not sure if such a book exists at this time, but I believe that Molly Holzschlag (who's written some 15 or so books on the web and is a WaSP member) was working on something like this some time back. Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] Accessibility checkers for Mac (OS X)
While I was looking at some of the traffic here, I thought I'd ask if anyone is aware of any downloadable tool for Mac OS X to check accessibility in any way? I doubt such a thing exists. I used to have Web XM (as Watchfire's desktop-based app) which was very handy but have long since said goodbye to that since migrating to Mac. If it doesn't exist, it'd be a great thing to go away and invent ... if only I knew the first thing about writing apps for the Mac, heh ;-) Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] A few questions needing answers
On 6 Mar 2004, at 13:14, Michael Kear wrote: I cant see what difference it makes to them whether you have absolute or relative links. On advantage of using a href=/resources/reallyusefulpage.htmllink/a instead of a href=resources/reallyusefulpage.htmllink/a is that if the page the link is on gets moved to another location on the files system - and you forget to link-check - the link will still be good to go. That's one small advantage, and I tend to use that even if it does add a few characters to the HTML sent to the client. Ian Lloyd ~ WEB: http://www.ian-lloyd.com/ | AIM: uklloydi Round-the-World trip blog: http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Bobby question
On 7 Mar 2004, at 12:40, Peter Firminger wrote:
Having said that, something like:
a href=copyright.htm onClick=window.open('',
'copyright','toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scro
llbar
s=auto,resizable=0,width=310,height=300') target=copyright
will still work ok as the default behaviour of the href will generally
be
used anyway.
I would advise a couple of changes:
- onClick becomes onclick for xhtml compliance
- don't have the url in two places (can make future updates tricky, and
may mean that link checkers don't highlight a broken link, e.g if you
change the href part but not the onclick part), so use this.href in the
onclick part
a href=copyright.htm onclick=window.open(this.href,
'copyright','toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrol
lbar
s=auto,resizable=0,width=310,height=300') target=copyright
Ian Lloyd
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